The Bitching thread

[Rebaynia]

A lot of people don’t wear makeup during sessions because some of you are married and I doubt you’d like to explain your wife why you have lipstick and foundation on your white shirt. Same reason a lot of us don’t use perfume.

It's why I stopped wearing makeup. That and when being intimate it can get everywhere, or half wipe off. Then need to try touching up the makeup when half your face had it removed. And my makeup is half glitter.. lol.. and we know no matter what you do, glitter always manages to stay behind.

It is why my more recent photos even in my ad/website are without makeup. I figure might as well be transparent to the face that is arriving at their door. Besides. Makeup is more for me than them, as I tend to think I look better without it. It is more an artistic expression than it is for beauty.
Now the extent of makeup I wear is colorful mascara.

 

[AirBo]

I'm so glad you girls are using this thread for your own grievances.

 

[bodick7]

I just love tasting freshly applied gloss on my favorite lips. She has such an inviting mouth when she does.

 

[AirBo]

If I could add to that (refering to indies only, haven't had a chance to visit an agency yet) the discrepancy between what's advertised and what's actually offered - age, pictures, general appearance, services expected and ones actually offered, etc

This is not my personal experience with indies... quite the opposite, actually. My experience with indies is, admittedly, still somewhat limited, and I stick to those I have great chemistry with. I find that the discrepancy you're talking about is way more obvious with agencies, where the girls aren't in control of anything regarding their advertising.

 

[Gazoo64]

If I could add to that (refering to indies only, haven't had a chance to visit an agency yet) the discrepancy between what's advertised and what's actually offered - age, pictures, general appearance, services expected and ones actually offered, etc

I used to see mainly agency SPs, but lately I saw a couple of Indy’s. My experience with Indy’s has been quite good, from ease of communication and booking, flexibility for the date/time and a more personalized experience.

I guess each one’s experience is different and preferences vary.

I agree that there is a substantial price difference and each one has an opinion about whether it’s worth the price difference. For me so far, it is.

One thing that’s clear is that IMO, it’s a more personalized experience and easier to build chemistry with an Indy. How can you compare a low volume Indy seeing 1-2 clients per day, vs an agency SP seeing 5-6 clients a day?!?

If a client just wants a release and couldn’t give a crap about chemistry, then it’s a different story!

 

[AirBo]

I used to see mainly agency SPs, but lately I saw a couple of Indy’s. My experience with Indy’s has been quite good, from ease of communication and booking, flexibility for the date/time and a more personalized experience.

I guess each one’s experience is different and preferences vary.

I agree that there is a substantial price difference and each one has an opinion about whether it’s worth the price difference. For me so far, it is.

One thing that’s clear is that IMO, it’s a more personalized experience and easier to build chemistry with an Indy. How can you compare a low volume Indy seeing 1-2 clients per day, vs an agency SP seeing 5-6 clients a day?!?

If a client just wants a release and couldn’t give a crap about chemistry, then it’s a different story!

You and I went the indy way lately, and for the same good reasons The fun I'm having with indies, especially prior to meeting them, is next to none. The chemistry we build is amazing, and the sessions I've had so far are the best I've had in a long time.

Yes, they're more expensive. But they've given me so much time, fun and attention outside of the session, prior and after. This is priceless to me.

I love my indies

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I used to see mainly agency SPs, but lately I saw a couple of Indy’s. My experience with Indy’s has been quite good, from ease of communication and booking, flexibility for the date/time and a more personalized experience.

I guess each one’s experience is different and preferences vary.

I agree that there is a substantial price difference and each one has an opinion about whether it’s worth the price difference. For me so far, it is.

One thing that’s clear is that IMO, it’s a more personalized experience and easier to build chemistry with an Indy. How can you compare a low volume Indy seeing 1-2 clients per day, vs an agency SP seeing 5-6 clients a day?!?

If a client just wants a release and couldn’t give a crap about chemistry, then it’s a different story!

exactly! and your experience with a provider will improve over time. chemistry and bonding develop over time. it's just reality! we are not in a movie or a video game, we are human beings and having a very human experience together. with some of my regular clients i have developed a friendship and we are used to each other and we know what to talk about and what to do to have a good time together.

i stopped working at spas because it was really bad for my mental and physical health. the service i offered at a spa was different as well, and i often did not want to be there. now i enjoy meeting new clients and seeing my regulars nothing feels rushed and even when i get booked for short periods of time i feel respected most of the time.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

You and I went the indy way lately, and for the same good reasons The fun I'm having with indies, especially prior to meeting them, is next to none. The chemistry we build is amazing, and the sessions I've had so far are the best I've had in a long time.

Yes, they're more expensive. But they've given me so much time, fun and attention outside of the session, prior and after. This is priceless to me.

I love my indies

I'm so glad you feel this way I hope more people will understand the appeal of indies. Sometimes I consider going back to spas or working for an agency but I know I would not enjoy it and I wouldn't be able to provide the same experience. Different clients have different needs, this is why I personally offer GFE. A lot of clients want softness and companionship and a tender experience, or they want to spend time with someone whose personality and vibe they really enjoy, and I tend to be popular among this type of clientele.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I just love tasting freshly applied gloss on my favorite lips. She has such an inviting mouth when she does.

I wear lip gloss all the time!

A lot of people don’t wear makeup during sessions because some of you are married and I doubt you’d like to explain your wife why you have lipstick and foundation on your white shirt. Same reason a lot of us don’t use perfume.

You can always try to request makeup if that’s very important for you.

I personally state in my ads and website that I don’t do makeup, I don’t own any kind of makeup and don’t like it.

That's also a very good point. I love wearing makeup personally. If a client wants me not to wear any type of perfume or avoid heavy makeup of course I will listen to his request. Generally clients have enjoyed the scented body lotion I wear and I have toned down my makeup looks to appear more natural but still cute and seductive.

 

[Fradi]

I have always seen Indy’s
I don’t like going through a booker or being part of the production line.
The ladies I see I have known for many years and we not only have chemistry but we are friends,
These women are not only gorgeous they are amazingly kind human beings who are a total pleasure to spend time with.
I always look forward to seeing them, they never disappoint and I know for sure that I will have a fabulous time with them.

 

[bodick7]

I love my indies

Me too. And I think it's showing at meetup.

 

[bodick7]

being part of the production line.

I call it the wiener factory...

 

[Julia Sky]

Pet peeve #39035 : What's the point of sending a message to an escort just to tell her you're not going to book her? Lol feels unnecessary

Pet peeve #39036 : when I accidentally post in the wrong thread..

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Pet peeve #39035 : What's the point of sending a message to an escort just to tell her you're not going to book her? Lol feels unnecessary

Pet peeve #39036 : when I accidentally post in the wrong thread..

Totally unnecessary also messaging an escort to ask for a discount or a service you know she doesn't offer......

 

[bodick7]

to ask for a discount

Unless it's good for both parties. I got a favorite which we agreed share room expense.
This way I can see her more often.
I got another who at first wanted a whole hour. Now she told me it's ok for half an hour for about the same reason (a special project).
I wouldn't go for this kind of deal at first encounter.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Unless it's good for both parties. I got a favorite which we agreed share room expense.
This way I can see her more often.
I got another who at first wanted a whole hour. Now she told me it's ok for half an hour for about the same reason (a special project).
I wouldn't go for this kind of deal at first encounter.

I sometimes offer discounts and I have accepted certain things with regular clients, sometimes I'm fine with it, sometimes not. It depends. I feel like it's disrespectful to ask for a discount for a gfe service personally.... If somebody offers the discount, good for you, or if you have an arrangement with someone that is fair for both parties, good for u also! But it has to be fair.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

concerning thought of the evening : seeing my coworkers amazing reviews makes me feel really self conscious i feel sometimes like what i have to offer isn't really appreciated or isnt seen as enough because i dont do pse...

 

[AirBo]

concerning thought of the evening : seeing my coworkers amazing reviews makes me feel really self conscious i feel sometimes like what i have to offer isn't really appreciated or isnt seen as enough because i dont do pse...

I really think it takes much more than an extended menu to deserve amazing reviews. Some of your coworkers do not offer PSE, while others offer different levels of PSE, yet all deserve glowing reviews because they're professionals and amazing people. I'm sure you'll do just fine as you are

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I really think it takes much more than an extended menu to deserve amazing reviews. Some of your coworkers do not offer PSE, while others offer different levels of PSE, yet all deserve glowing reviews because they're professionals and amazing people. I'm sure you'll do just fine as you are

thank you! a lot of reviews i see really focus on pse type action which is not my forte. I am capable of handling certain things, particularly when i'm at my incall space or in a hotel room and not at home where the neighbors could hear things if you see what i mean...hehe. otherwise, i think a lot of clients appreciate a truly gfe type experience with me, with all the fixings and cuddling and pillow talk. i'm not a porn star and i never claimed to be.. but it's hard to compete with those who offer a performance that is something you'd see in a hardcore adult film haha

 

[AirBo]

it's hard to compete with those who offer a performance that is something you'd see in a hardcore adult film

Indeed... never try to compete with Julia Sky