The current state of the indie scene...

[smuler]

Possibly you aren't one of these people, maybe you are one of the few and far between decent ones.

I can guarantee you that I am not a lurid person who wastes people's time and I can write full sentences ..and I wish you luck with your business model , as you sound very bitter

Best Regards
Smuler

 

[Maria Divina]

Just a quick 2 cents: (BBW Lover made me think of it)

The very best way to have a lower level of donation with an indy is to become what is called a "regular", someone who is seeing her each week maybe 2 weeks regularly.

OR

to share encounter of multiple hours. Than each hour is very lower than 200$/h

PS: I understand very much is not a cheap entertaining at all.

 

[AmberRose]

as you sound very bitter

Best Regards
Smuler

Actually she sounds quite realistic to me.

 

[BBW Lover]

Thanks Maria,

I am a monogamous hobbyist, I never bargain with an SP who has a listed price. Some of my regulars offered rebates especially when I called them on slower nights. But this is a different topic.

 

[Maria Divina]

BBW Lover :

 

[CLOUD 500]

you truly like your clients/guests as you have stated but your post is kind of hard to understand

I would take all of that written here with a grain of salt. They are providers on this board as such their opinions can be biased. For example using the word "guests" vs "clients" is a marketing tool. Whatever name you want to use it is all the same. So moral of the story is whether they like or not is kind of irrelevant since we will never know the truth.

 

[EdaBlackwood]

That statement was specific to Smuler who has continued to imply I'm bitter. Which I'm not. I'm just not interested in changing his mind about me.

I welcome guests in. People who have gone through a screening process. Since Smuler is not one of my guests and likely won't ever be, I don't really need to be welcoming or endearing do I?

But thanks for this guy's. My inbox has been packed to the rim with guys booking for my return in august. So it's been a blast. Thanks for the promo.

 

[Josie Ramoan]

Awe Amber now I'm the one who's blushing.

 

[smuler]

Since Smuler is not one of my guests and likely won't ever be, I don't really need to be welcoming or endearing do I ?

Remember in the first post I made in this thread, I told people I have no body type..I just like nice girls
But after showing your true colors , I can guarantee you that I would never contact you .

Smuler

 

[BBW Lover]

Your attitude (and looks) would do wonders in the domination market, though I am not sure it will work in the straight market.

 

[CLOUD 500]

I guess men will never change, but we always get accused of only caring about a woman's looks.

This is what I call the double standard. Women go around rejecting men for being too short and small. They write stuff like that on their dating profiles. The thing is that a person can go to the gym and loose weight and build muscle but no one can stretch themselves to be taller. If we men reject women for being too big we are called superficial but if a women rejects a man for being too short that is a valid rejection.

 

[hungry101]

Even if they don't look fat in their pictures, they probably are. They are almost always fat. And there are a lot of fake pictures of totally different girls or pictures that were taken years ago when the girl was actually in shape. They lie about their weight all the time. Also, there is this idea, perpetuated by feminists, that fat women are "sexy". Women constantly praise fat women about how great and sexy they look and this is what real women look like, etc... Now it seems escorts believe this too because I see a lot of ads of fat escorts claiming they have amazing bodies in their description. They are convinced that their overweight body is sexy. Also, 90% of the "big ass" ads are just fat women. Slim and athletic bodies seem to be endangered species.

It just pisses me off when I meet a "110" or "120" pound woman who actually have a bigger gut than me. The last girl I met claimed she was "110" but she was like 150 with fat all over her body and especially her gut. And the worse is that these girls tend to demand outrageous prices. Like 180, 200, or even 300. They make sure you agree to their outrageous price before you meet them, while lying about their appearance. They charge the prices of hot girls while not being hot. It's like indie girls all lie now. There was a time when I would meet escorts and the girl looked like she looked like the picture. But now it's almost guaranteed she looks nothing like the picture and weigh much more. Even the ads that contain words such as "real pictures!" actually use fake pictures. This happened to me a few times. Is escorting a scam industry or what? How about offering an honest service?
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Birds - Send Iggy a PM and see if you can get an invite to VIP-8. I had the pleasure of attending VIP7 and I met dozens and dozens of SPs and all of them were fit. I have to say that you will not have to worry about their pictures because you will meet them face-to-face.

 

[AvyBlue]

Everyone has their personal tastes. At this point, I don't believe it's a question of fat or thin I just think that indies that are 150 pounds should just say they are 150 pounds and not 110. WHat you are listing must be accurate cuz every guy has their own taste. Some like skinny and some like curvy we all know that !
I am a girl and I love girls and I personally prefer girls more than 110 pounds as me, I would not be attracted by a 110 pounds girl...it's more like 130 and more.
It's the same thing I think when you have a certain expectation and you realize that it's not accurate it's irritating but then again you might just love it

 

[BBW Lover]

This is what I call the double standard. Women go around rejecting men for being too short and small. They write stuff like that on their dating profiles. The thing is that a person can go to the gym and loose weight and build muscle but no one can stretch themselves to be taller. If we men reject women for being too big we are called superficial but if a women rejects a man for being too short that is a valid rejection.

You don't want to be dating women who prefer guys over 6 feet and with a third leg that is 8 inches plus. Those girls have "superficial" written all over their foreheads. You seem to be a smart and articulate guy and I guess you would not be happy dating a superficial girl.

 

[CLOUD 500]

What I found confusing is saying that you "welcome guests into your incall and then making a statement that " you must be one of the few and far between decent ones".
Not exactly a welcoming or endearing statement.

Nah. I got your statement which is why I brought up the example. As you can a person can only show a false facade some time sooner or later they will slip up as you can see here

Since Smuler is not one of my guests and likely won't ever be, I don't really need to be welcoming or endearing do I?

and here

Possibly you aren't one of these people, maybe you are one of the few and far between decent ones.

As you can see not so pleasant the true colors are showing. I also want to add they talked about generalization well here is a generalization not all clients who seek a competitive price are scum. Each person has their own budget.

If these posts came from a lady who was using an anonymous handle then those posts would be very credible.

 

[Splotch]

...This thread is still going??! Peace has not been reached??

 

[CLOUD 500]

Is it me or the indie scene is getting worse and worse? It's literally just fat women these days. It's sickening. Even if they don't look fat in their pictures, they probably are. They are almost always fat. And there are a lot of fake pictures of totally different girls or pictures that were taken years ago when the girl was actually in shape. They lie about their weight all the time. Also, there is this idea, perpetuated by feminists, that fat women are "sexy". Women constantly praise fat women about how great and sexy they look and this is what real women look like, etc... Now it seems escorts believe this too because I see a lot of ads of fat escorts claiming they have amazing bodies in their description. They are convinced that their overweight body is sexy. Also, 90% of the "big ass" ads are just fat women. Slim and athletic bodies seem to be endangered species.

It just pisses me off when I meet a "110" or "120" pound woman who actually have a bigger gut than me. The last girl I met claimed she was "110" but she was like 150 with fat all over her body and especially her gut. And the worse is that these girls tend to demand outrageous prices. Like 180, 200, or even 300. They make sure you agree to their outrageous price before you meet them, while lying about their appearance. They charge the prices of hot girls while not being hot. It's like indie girls all lie now. There was a time when I would meet escorts and the girl looked like she looked like the picture. But now it's almost guaranteed she looks nothing like the picture and weigh much more. Even the ads that contain words such as "real pictures!" actually use fake pictures. This happened to me a few times. Is escorting a scam industry or what? How about offering an honest service?

I am at a point where I look at the ads, only see a bunch of fatties and fake pictures and I am like : "I guess I will keep my money for something else." This is making me lose interest in the hobby. Is it that hard to be in shape for a job that has your physical appearance as the main requirement? I mean, why am I the one in better physical shape when I am the one paying? Finding a girl in shape over 25 years old is almost impossible.

As for Birds's post from reading between the lines he clearly is venting out a big frustration... Looks like he was the victim of bait and switch. Probably he was going through backpage a lot. I looked through those ads out of curiosity and over 80% of the ads have fake pics.. Birds is not wrong in what he stated... I have been seeing a lot more big chubby girls then I ever did say ten years ago. I do not get it myself also. I seen it myself at stripclubs there are so many out of shape or chubby girls and the price of dances are the same. Having said that stick with the agencies on Merb. Euphoria is the top rated agency here and all their girls are slim and athletic. They obviously know what they were doing and that does not change the fact that the majority of men prefer slim and athletic. Not saying there is no market for big chubby girls. There is a market for all types hell I even read some guys seeking pregnant SPs. But venting out your frustration in this way is not constructive at all. I agree with Hungry101 check out VIP you will meet lots of SPs lots of slim and fit ones.

 

[Naomi Loren]

I can't believe this thread is still going, but I guess it's a solid advertisement for us curvy indies so I'm not
complaining.

 

[BBW Lover]

I have met nice girls through BP and A123, you just need to read between the lines as you said and a few text exchanges with the girl will allow you to see if the girl is honest or if she is just writing some BS to get your hard-earned shekels.

 

[CLOUD 500]

I have met nice girls through BP and A123, you just need to read between the lines as you said and a few text exchanges with the girl will allow you to see if the girl is honest or if she is just writing some BS to get your hard-earned shekels.

That is obvious... But some are noobs and do not know better.