The Joe.T Memorial Yankees Suck Thread for 2007

[rumpleforeskiin]

What you said in your last post makes absolutely no sense. The Red Sox offered Damon $40 million, knowing he supposedly had physical problems and knowing that the Yankees, if they did their due diligence and learned of those problems, would make no offer at all. In that case who would the Red Sox be bidding against, Korbel? Do you at all think about what you are posting?

You don't seem to be reading my posts, Beav. The Sox were never serious about signing Damon. Their first offer to him, $27 M over three years made this abundantly clear. Their second offer to him, $40 M over three years with a Christmas Eve deadline to accept it or it was off the table, made it even more clear.

While the Sox would have been happy to have Damon for three years, in retrospect, even that would have been too long a contract.

The Sox already had their eye on Crisp, who less than a year and a half later is clearly a superior ballplayer in every aspect of the game. The following appeared 9 days before the Yankees signed Demon. Clearly, Cashman and Steingrabber were suckered into signing Demon by the Sox brass.

http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/2005/12/loco_for_coco_1.html

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

The Red Sox offered $40 million to a player they knew was damaged goods (by your admission), which was an an opening offer. Those are the facts.

Beav, there was never any suggestion on the part of the Sox that Damon was damaged at the time. They were quite well aware that because of the type of tools Damon possesses and the way he plays the game, that he was likely to decline rapidly and at an early age. And, again, $40 million was not the first offer, it was the final, take it or leave it, offer.

 

[Joe.t]

The Sox already had their eye on Crisp, who less than a year and a half later is clearly a superior ballplayer in every aspect of the game.
http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/2005/12/loco_for_coco_1.html

Wait untill the season is over pinhead before making such a silly statement, based on last year's performance Damon is clearly the better ballplayer, i expect Damon to get red hot and tear the cover off the baseball the second half of the season while Crisp tanks.

- I have already told Caress that i will be seeing her for 3 hours sometime in October and her reaction was "why in october" and i explained to her that i was expecting some extra cash coming my way in October.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

- I have already told Caress that i will be seeing her for 3 hours sometime in October and her reaction was "why in october" and i explained to her that i was expecting some extra cash coming my way in October.

I trust that she'll not be too disappointed when she gets my call.

 

[Joe.t]

I trust that she'll not be too disappointed when she gets my call.

Are you going to ask her if you can come over and watch us go at it for three hours?, i certainly have no problem with that as you might learn something, i will do you a favour and ask her for you but there are no guarantees that she will say yes, like i said it is up to her.

 

[korbel]

Clemens????

Wait untill the season is over pinhead before making such a silly statement, based on last year's performance Damon is clearly the better ballplayer, i expect Damon to get red hot and tear the cover off the baseball the second half of the season while Crisp tanks.

- I have already told Caress that i will be seeing her for 3 hours sometime in October and her reaction was "why in october" and i explained to her that i was expecting some extra cash coming my way in October.

Hello Joe t,

I just wanted to memorialize that statement to go with the one on how Clemens was going to be on fire for the rest of the year...lol. Good one.

0 for 1,

Korbel

 

[korbel]

Clemens????

Wait untill the season is over pinhead before making such a silly statement, based on last year's performance Damon is clearly the better ballplayer, i expect Damon to get red hot and tear the cover off the baseball the second half of the season while Crisp tanks.

- I have already told Caress that i will be seeing her for 3 hours sometime in October and her reaction was "why in october" and i explained to her that i was expecting some extra cash coming my way in October.

Hello Joe t,

I just wanted to memorialize that statement to go with the one on how "Clemens is starting to hit his stride and i am expecting him to pitch the lights out the rest of year"...lol. Good one. See you in Montreal very soon.

0 for 1,

Korbel

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

i expect Damon to get red hot and tear the cover off the baseball the second half of the season

The cover is still waiting, Joe. Another collar for the corpse of Johnny Damon last night as he rapidly approaches the Lugo line. I wonder what the single season record is for weak ground balls?

Kason Gabbard now has more shutouts this season and as many complete games as the entire Yankee pitching staff. I wonder if Joe would be touting him for the Cy Young Award if he were wearing pinstripes?

 

[korbel]

Smell the money.

Kason Gabbard now has more shutouts this season and as many complete games as the entire Yankee pitching staff. I wonder if Joe would be touting him for the Cy Young Award if he were wearing pinstripes?

Hello Rumpleforeskiin,

Watch out. I can feel Steinboner warmer up his bank account and mega-Cash-man writing a lot of numbers. Maybe they will steal Gabbard for $28,000,000. Certainly the last guy they paid that amount for wasn't worth it.

Cheers Josey and EB,

Korbel

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Watch out. I can feel Steinboner warmer up his bank account and mega-Cash-man writing a lot of numbers. Maybe they will steal Gabbard for $28,000,000. Certainly the last guy they paid that amount for wasn't worth it.

Gabbard also has a lower ERA than any of the Yankee starters, including 12 time Cy Young Award winner, C.M. Wang.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Quick quiz: What do the numbers 25 and 18 have in common, particularly as they apply to Alex Rodriguez?

 

[Joe.t]

8 and counting...

Question- What do you get when a team goes on a 8 game losing streak and another team goes on a 8 game winning streak which realisticly can happen?

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Question- What do you get when a team goes on a 8 game losing streak and another team goes on a 8 game winning streak which realisticly can happen?

Last time you said 8 and counting, it went right back to 12.5. By the way, after next Thursday, the Sox have 27 of their remaining 61 games with the Devil Rays and Orioles.

Another collar for the corpse of Johnny Damon last night. Looks like he'll be catching Julio Lugo long before he can dream of Coco Crisp.
Crisp .265
Demon .238
Lugo .217

 

[korbel]

Question- What do you get when a team goes on a 8 game losing streak and another team goes on a 8 game winning streak which realisticly can happen?

Hello Joe t.,

You call that realistic...lol. That's about as realistic as you having a 10 inch cock.

Give me a break,

Korbel

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

The Yankees schedule for August & September appears to be an easy one (playing against many non .500 teams) as compared to the Red Sox schedule.

Buster Olney rated the remaining schedules of all the contenders just before the break. Again, 27 of their final 61 games against the Devil Rays and Orioles. 6 of the 10 before that against the Royals and White Sox. He rated the Sox as having the easiest schedule, followed by the Yankees. Then the Tigers and Indians.

Plus the fact that Schilling may not be at a 100% for the rest of the season, Dice-K might be getting tired, etc.....and the fact that for the first time this year, the Yankees finally have a quality regular 5-man rotation with Wang, Clemens, Mussina, Pettite & Hughes.

Oh? What's to suggest that Matsuzaka's getting tired? And quality rotation? Clemens has been the picture of mediocrity. Pettitte, aside from last night, has been the worst starting pitcher in the American League for the last six weeks. Mussina's ERA is higher than the league average. Hughes is a rookie who hasn't pitched in over two months. That would leave Wang.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Yankees deal for a power-hitting or high average hitting 1st baseman & some much needed middle relief help.

Having nothing but prospects that they aren't going to trade to offer, this is highly unlikely. Last year, they were able to acquire Abreu simply be eating his enormous contract. There's nobody of that ilk this time around. Kenny Williams is asking for the sky for Dye. Texeira is not expensive and has over a year left before he's a free agent. He'll cost 2-3 top prospects.

According to several GMs, this figures to be a very quite trading deadline.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Right now, i have a gut feeling that the Red Sox have the potential to go on a losing streak or at best, play .500 ball until September.

Hard to go on a long losing streak when you have Beckett and Matsuzaka pitching 40% of your games. Schilling is 2 starts away. The Sox offense has been pitiful for nearly two months, yet their starting pitching and best in the AL bullpen, has kept them playing .500 ball. When the schedule turns to all Baltimore and Tampa Bay all the time, the offense can't help but kick in. These guys, with the exception of a couple of Baltimore starters, couldn't get high schoolers out.

The Yankees now look almost unstoppable & are winning the close games & they've become fearless of losing.

Easy to look unstoppable when you're playing Tampa Bay. The last time they closed to 8 games, about a month ago, they went right back to 12.

 

[Joe.t]

He rated the Sox as having the easiest schedule, followed by the Yankees. Then the Tigers and Indians.

The Red Sox got absolutely clobbered last night by the second worst team in the American league so this fact just might be irrelevant, i am going to have to agree with the good Doctor on this one.

 

[EagerBeaver]

None of us really can gaze into a crystal ball and know with certainty what is going to happen. The Red Sox, last time I checked, do not have a warranty on the health of their key players not possessed by other major league teams. Nor do they have a warranty on the consistency and durability of Beckett and Matsuzaka even if they have been consistent and durable to this point in the season.

I do like the way the Yankees have played the last few games. There have been some aggressive baserunning plays and some very good defensive plays. The end of the game last night was bizarre. Larry Bowa (Yankees 3rd base coach), with Cairo on 2nd base and nobody out in the 8th, waved Cairo home on a sharp single hit to Rios, who has a cannon arm. Absolutely inexplicable call by Bowa- it goes beyond aggressive to insane. Cairo then made the worst head first slide into home I have ever seen and got tagged out. It looked to me like even though Zaun had the plate blocked, Cairo had room to go left of Zaun if he had not started his ill advised head first slide, by going in either standing up or run past and then slide, reach back and tag the plate. This was really the only bad play by the Yankees.

Accardo had a little bit of a meltdown in the 9th inning for the Blue Jays, balking in the tying run when his cleats got stuck on the mound and he stepped off. But the truth is the Yankees should have won the game on a Matsui homer, which went foul by inches. A friend of mine at the game was in the upper deck and nearly caught the ball. He said they too thought it was a homer at 1st.

Regarding trades, an interesting name is being thrown out there: Eric Gagne. He has a 1 year deal with the Rangers who are out of it. Supposedly the Cardinals want him badly, but the Yankees are also being mentioned. Although Gagne is a closer, if the Yankees could somehow dump Farnsworth, money, and a low level prospect on Texas, it might be worth getting him for multiple reasons. The Yankees would then have leverage in negotiating with Rivera after the season, with 2 closers on the roster and the possibility of going with Gagne who has an ERA of 1.23. I don't see the Yankees getting a position player. Teixera will cost too much, and right now Andy Phillips is the best all around 1st baseman the Yankees have put in the field this year. I think they can live with him in the lineup, the way he has played so far.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Supposedly the Cardinals want him badly, but the Yankees are also being mentioned. Although Gagne is a closer, if the Yankees could somehow dump Farnsworth, money, and a low level prospect on Texas, it might be worth getting him for multiple reasons.

Why would Texas want Farnsworth, who is a) lousy and b) is owed $5.5 M in 2008? They can certainly do much, much better than Farnsworth, money and a low level prospect.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Why would Texas want Farnsworth, who is a) lousy and b) is owed $5.5 M in 2008? They can certainly do much, much better than Farnsworth, money and a low level prospect.

Probably, but you don't start with your best offer, and I am sure the Yankees would eat some salary as part of the deal, as the Rangers were kind enough to do with A-Rod. Plus, whoever trades for Gagne gets him for only 2 months as he is a free agent again after the season. Maybe if the Yankees throw either DeSalvo or Karstens into the deal, the Rangers will go for it. What will the Cardinals offer? They will not pay a king's ransom to get Gagne as their hopes for the playoffs appear to be fading, and they know it.