The Joe.T Memorial Yankees Suck Thread for 2007
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DeSalvo??? Karstens??? Methinks the Rangers would want prospects, not suspects.EagerBeaver said:
rumpleforeskiin said:
The Yankees have historically made many trades in which they got something for nothing. Do you recall the trade in which the Yankees got Sparky Lyle from the Red Sox for Danny Cater?
Yes, I also remember the Larry Andersen for Jeff Bagwell deal and the Heathcliff Slocumb for Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe deals. And I remember the Yankees sending Dave Collins, Mike Morgan, Fred McGriff AND cash to the Blue Jays for Dale Murray, not to mention Willie McGee for Bob Sykes. That doesn't mean you can count on a giveaway.EagerBeaver said:
I'm sure you remember the deal in which the Giants sent Hall of Famer Amos Rusie to Cincinnati for a minor leaguer named Mathewson. Rusie never won another game, Matty won 373.
How about the Mets, in a 2 year span 1969-1971, first trading Amos Otis to the KC Royals for Joe Foy, and then trading Nolan Ryan to the Angels for Jim Fregosi? Has any team ever made two notorious trades so close in time in which something was traded for nothing? It's no wonder the Mets sucked for almost the entire decade of the 1970s.
Interesting timing. Keith Law, formerly head of scouting with the Blue Jays and now senior baseball analyst with Scouts, Inc, had a chat on ESPN.com this afternoon. One poster asked him, "KLAW what can the Yanks get for Farnsy?"
Law's one word answer, "Heartburn."
Law's one word answer, "Heartburn."
rumpleforeskiin said:
What i posted earlier was simply what i heard on ESPN radio yesterday. Whether it'll happen or not, who knows. You sure don't seem to think so!
I sure hope the Red Sox hang on, though. Christ i hate the fucking Yankees!
femaleluver2 said:
Down to 7 now!!
PS- What i fucking awesome performance by Clemens tonight, dont you think so my dear korbel?
Joe.t said:
Fucken awesome performance..are you jokin' Joe.t???
6.0 Innings, 9 HITS, and 3 K's.
1 inning in which he didn't allow a runner. I'd hardly call that awesome by any stretch of the imagination! Unfortunately for the good guys, Julian Tavarez was unable to hold onto a lead again. I'm beginning to get disgusted with the play of the Sox for the past 2 months.
True, Clemens sucked but the Jays sucked more and let him get away with it.Special K said:
The Sox sucked even more than the Jays. They're totally asleep at the wheel, losing close game after close game. They're like 2 for 150 with men in scoring position over the last week.
This all goes in cycles and I retain my confidence that the Sox will bounce back and become, again, something close to the team they were in April and May. Schiling will be back healthy in about 10 days and will hopefully replace Tavarez in the rotation. Seems Mr. Tavarez' supply of Aaron Small Brand (TM) Magic Dust has run out.
The Sox schedule is woefully easy the rest of the way (31 of 69 remaining games against Tampa Bay, Baltimore, and Chicago), but, if they don't play better than they did against TO and KC, it might not matter.
On another front, yet another collar for the corpse of Johnny Damon. He's now hitting .167 for the month of July, with one double. His miserable average is .236 and Julio Lugo is right on his heels. This could be a case of the Curse of Joe.T.
Much of the game of baseball has to do with luck. One guy drills a bullet right at the centerfielder; the next guy gets jammed and fists a ball over the first baseman’s head for a double. A team wins one game 10-2 but loses the next 3 by scores of 4-3, 7-5, and 5-4. They’re one and three and just unlucky.Doc Holliday said:But NY is on such a roll that i presently don't see anyone stopping them, unfortunately.
The best predictor of overall team success is run differential and, in fact, if you examine a team’s run differential over the course of a season, you will, in 90% of the cases, be able to tell their record within 2 games.
There is no indicator of luck better than the one run ballgame. The Red Sox are 14-15 in one run games, though they’ve lost 9 of their last 10.
The Red Sox who played .700 ball over the first 8 weeks of the season were extremely lucky, while the team that has played .500 ball over the last 6 has been extremely unlucky. In fact, the Sox record today is exactly what it should be. The Yankees, on the other hand, have won an awful lot of lopsided games and lost quite a few close ones. According to their run differential, the Yankees should be one game behind the Sox.
This is not yet a race, though it could be soon. Whether or not it becomes one will not only depend on which is the better team (they’ve been pretty dead even to date), but also on which is the luckier one.
Of one thing, however, we can be sure. Johnny Demon sucks.
rumpleforeskiin said:
I heard last night that the Yankees' record in games decided by 1 or 2 runs is 12-25 - the worst in major league baseball. Some of this is attributable to bad luck, and some of it is attributable to a bullpen that was overworked early, but is still walking way too many people, with Farnsworth, Bruney and Proctor being the major culprits. I see the bullpen right now as the Yankees major weakness that they need to fix.
I still feel like a trade between the Yankees and Rangers in which Farnsy is sent packing, together with as little else as is necessary to obtain Eric Gagne, should be not only the Yankees top priority, but their only priority. If Gagne is in the bullpen to work the 8th inning, between him and Rivera you can create a 2 headed monster such as the Yankees had in 1996 with Rivera and Wetteland. In the playoffs you can use those to guys in combination to pitch the 7th through 9th innings as the Yankees did with Rivera and Wetteland in 1996. In 1996, it was a recipe for a championship. The recipe can now be recreated.
Regarding Johnny Demon, what's curious about his slump is that he is running the bases well and has struck out only 4 times in his last 75 ABs. It's clear though that even though he is making contact, he is not hitting the ball hard and he is not getting the results that are needed. He was in left field last night, which is ideally suited for his pathetic throwing arm. However, it's questionable whether he should not be a pure DH pending showing he can snap out of the slump. The Yankees will continue to play him because until Giambi comes back, which may be soon, there really are not many other options at DH.
I heard that the Yankees want to see Hughes make 2 more starts and attain a pitch count over 90 before they will bring him up. I have also heard the Yankees are considering a non-Gagne option which would involve bringing up Joba Chamberlain to pitch the 8th inning. Joba, who is throwing 100 mph, played in the Futures All Star game and is considered to be in Hughes' class as a prospect at this time. I advocate the Gagne approach, but yesterday Mike Francesa of WFAN eloquently advocated the more cost efficient Chamberlain solution. Both approaches would involve the exile of Farnsworth which I am certain will happen before the trading deadline, even if the Yankees must eat his bloated and undeserved contract.
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Special K said:
Hello Joe t.
Bullcrap! He simply escaped serious damage in a nerve racking performance. Get back to me when Clemens is at least .500 for that $28,000,000. $28,000,000 for a 3-4 record, just up from 2-4...what a joke. Until then he is just the most expensive loser in baseball.
Good luck,
Korbel
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Lol
Hello Josey,
So you even dream about the Yankees...lol. Wow, I guess that nude picture on your headboard of Damon bent over the dugout bench is doing it's job for you.
Happy dreams...or fantasies,
Korbel
Joe.t said:I had a dream last night that Damon was going to have a big game today.
Hello Josey,
So you even dream about the Yankees...lol. Wow, I guess that nude picture on your headboard of Damon bent over the dugout bench is doing it's job for you.
Happy dreams...or fantasies,
Korbel
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Far more often than not, a team that advances the way the Tigers did last year regresses to the mean the following. The Tigers have shown that they are no fluke. As a Red Sox fan, I fear the Tigers far more than the Yankees, especially if they get Zumaya back healthy. There is also little doubt in my mind that the AL MVP at the moment is Magglio Ordonez.Daringly said:
The Yankees have a brutal schedule in August. After hosting an improved Kansas City team, which has won 12 of their last 19, they travel to Toronto for 3, then Cleveland for three. After a Baltimore breather in the Bronx, their next 14 games include 8 with Detroit, 3 with Anaheim on the coast, and 3 with the Sox.
Only in your dreams. .233 after another collar.Joe.t said:I had a dream last night that Damon was going to have a big game today.
Korbel said:
Korb,
Clemens didn't get the W last night, so he's still a pathetic 2-4!
On a side note, the Yanks finally lost a game. Scored 2 first inning runs and then were shut out the rest of the way. Like to see that!
Clemens is likely to get about 12 more starts. He's got 2 wins in 9, so he appears on pace to win in the vicinity of 5 games for George's $19,000,000. That works out to a record $5,000,000 per win.Special K said:Clemens didn't get the W last night, so he's still a pathetic 2-4!
Kason Gabbard now has 3 wins and will make about $200,000 this year if he stays up the rest of the way. Assuming 12 more starts and continuing to win 60% of them, he's likely to wind up with 10 wins or $20,000 per win.
Ergo and ipso facto: for $19,000,000, Gabbard could get the Sox 250 wins.
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