The official 2013 NFL thread

[EagerBeaver]

The sissification of the NFL continues. In light of the NFL VP of Officiating calling the block on Bengals punter Kevin Huber a hit on a "defenseless player", Mike Golic points out that punters are only defenseless if they punt the ball, and then run off the field. Not only was Huber on the field, but he was running towards returner Antonio Brown when Huber was savagely blocked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMS4nTP0iis
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...-upset-hit-terence-garver-pittsburgh-steelers

I think there is no TD unless Huber gets blocked. He should not have run towards Antonio Brown.

 

[Merlot]

BOYZ,

FYI- I picked the Dolphins to win the Super Bowl before the season started, any team that makes the playoffs can win it, you are just sour because they creamed the Patriots today, you are also jealous because I AM ABSOLUTELY ON FIRE with my picks of late.

You say 6 for the Patriots and I say 30 for the rotten Raiders with at least two major CHOKES. Want to talk "creamed", Buccaneers 48 Raiders 21 (27 points peeeeeeeuuuuuuuuu) Super Bowl 37. You lose again, another thoughtless post by you.

I only feel sorry for someone who can't form a mature thought.

Besides two things:

1. The Patriots lost in last second drives both years, in 2007 after the refs added 53 bogus seconds to the game.

2. I've given you compliments on your results lately. Really, is English a language you were ever trained in???

OK, Joe REALITY CHECK HERE!! The use of the word "creamed" is not even close to sane.

Even CS thinks you're lost in fantasy land.

At best the Dolphins are on borrowed time. I can see them making the playoffs and getting eliminated in the second round. Now as to Tannehill the only thing I can say is that I want to do his wife!!!

See Joe this is how a thinking person deals with reality. But we all understand Joe. In every neighborhood there was always one kid who was filled with blind emotional enthusiasm for anything or anyone with the name of his team attached. He never put a real thought into what he said and never had any reasons for jumping up and down like a giddy girl, he just spouted like a broken horn that couldn't be shut off, and doesn't grow up.

Once again Joe.t my buddy, aren't you a Raiders fan, or are you just a bandwagon two-face jumping on other teams because yours is atrocious???

The Patriots should be 9-5 right now...if two calls had given them rightful wins and they had lost those three games where they were way behind. But that's how games are, a little change of fortune, a quarterback gets hot or a ref blows a call and there's a different result.

The Dolphins along with the Ravens have been hot lately. Denver has underachieved and the AFC basically sucks this year, a year when there is opportunity for teams who get it together at the right time. But, I don't see Miami getting by either the Ravens or Broncos especially with their suspect secondary, which the Patriots made a mistake in not attacking very early.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en....6.0....0...1ac.1.32.img..0.9.546.b1fWqHwiSe4

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibt...public/2012/04/27/268183-lauren-tannehill.jpg

Whew, she's some gorgeous little barbie doll. She has almost the same look and almost identical eyes to the 18 year old daughter of an acquaintance of mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMS4nTP0iis

I have no real problem with the severity of the hit except it looks like the helmet got in under the chin and Huber's neck, but I doubt a punter would have been able to bring down the charging Steeler without significant help, and that wasn't there. I think he's lucky his neck wasn't broken, probably what the NFL looked at.

BTW: this is the NFL 2013...not a Roman arena 100 AD. :thumb:

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[Special K]

That is one tough fucken punter though Beav. Broken jaw and vertabrae on that hit and he got up and walked off the field.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Huber is a tough dude, but he got involved in the play and got blocked. It falls under the category of shit happens in a football game. Garvin did hit him with the helmet but it was mainly due to the angle at which they were running as their bodies met. These kinds of hits happen all the time on special teams, this one was just a tad more savage than usual.

I can remember a game a few years ago which I think was Cowboys-Redskins and the kick returner had one guy to beat on his way to a TD and it was the kicker who made an absolute pathetic attempt at a TD saving tackle and he got nothing but an armful of air. The kicker took a bad angle, he should have been able to stop the TD. If kickers or punters are on the field and trying to impede the returner they are fair game to be hit and blocked.

 

[Joe.t]

Fact, the Patriots cheating ways have been well documented and Nobody outside of Massachusetts actually believes that New England won any Super Bowl legitimately because the Patriots are cheats, end of story.

My red hot winning picks for this week-

Oakland +10.5 over San Diego.

Tampa +5.5 over St.Louis.

Miami -3 over Buffalo(taking them one step closer to first place).

My sure shot pick is Baltimore -2.5 over the Whiners, this will not even be close, I expect the margin of victory to be double digits, this is not only my sure shot pick of the week but my sure shot pick for all times and really is a no brainer, if you were to make one pick all year this is the one, New England with their depleted, injured team doesn't even stand a chance, have fun with your winnings guys.:thumb:

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Tampa +5.5 over St.Louis.

Wow, Joe. This might be your point shaving personal best. The line is actually 3 points. Maybe you need to out from under that rock and get your mouth off of iggy's wanker.

 

[Merlot]

BOYZ!

Wow, Joe...get your mouth off of iggy's wanker.

Boys must have their toys.

The problem with Joe is his real motivations for this whole thread. Since his Raiders are a disaster he has nothing left than to be bitter over the Patriots like the wretched bitterness of his team.

No, the Raiders are not over the tuck rule

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/21/no-the-raiders-are-not-over-the-tuck-rule/

The NFL scrapped the tuck rule this year, 11 years too late for the Raiders. And the Raiders are not over it.

NFL Network put out a promotional tweet last week letting fans know that the January 19, 2002, tuck rule game — in which Raiders cornerback Charles Woodson appeared to force a game-clinching forced fumble on Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, only to have the officials rule it an incomplete pass — would be re-broadcast on the league-owned network. Whoever runs the Raiders’ official Twitter didn’t seem to appreciate that.

Immediately after NFL Network tweeted to promote the tuck rule broadcast, the Raiders tweeted at NFL Network:

OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS
Follow

We've gotten over it, why haven't you? RT @nflnetwork: Patriots. Raiders. Tuck Rule. Right now.
8:03 PM - 18 Jul 2013

OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS
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Upon further review, nope, we're not over it. RT @nflnetwork: Patriots. Raiders. Tuck Rule. Right now.
8:11 PM - 18 Jul 2013

Read the litany of whining pathetically bitter tweets by the Raiders and their fans to see why Joe.t cares about nothing more in this thread except purging his everlasting anger against the Patriots. For Joe, the refs cheated if the Patriots win and they were perfect if the Patriots lose. Whatever happens, my buddy Joe will suffer with his soul to pour out every bit of pain in revenge for the Tuck Rule and his own inadequacies.

What to watch for as the Patriots visit the Ravens

http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...tch_for_as_the_patriots_visit_the_ravens.html

By Zuri Berry, Boston.com Staff

Going into Sunday's game against the Baltimore Ravens, the Patriots have playoff implications to consider.

A win and they're in. A loss and things get complicated. There are injuries that require attention and an opponent that requires some extra game planning from a defensive perspective. Week 16 will not be an easy one. But nobody ever said it would be.

Here's what we're watching as the Patriots visit the Ravens.

1. What will the offensive line look like? -- Left tackle Nate Solder has been ruled out of Sunday's game after suffering a concussion last week against the Miami Dolphins, just a week removed from suffering another concussion against the Cleveland Browns. When Solder was forced to leave the Dolphins game, he was replaced by Logan Mankins, who moved over from left guard. Josh Kline came in to fill in for Mankins at guard. That may very well be the case again this week for the Ravens. The Patriots could also opt to use tackle Will Svitek at left tackle, or swap Marcus Cannon to left and insert Svitek at right tackle. We'll see what they come up with.

2. How much will special teams factor into the outcome? -- Patriots place kicker Stephen Gostkowski is coming off his worst game of the season, having missed a 48-yard field goal attempt and getting flagged for a kickoff that went out of bounds. Conversely, Ravens kicker Justin Tucker is coming off his best outing of the season, going 6 for 6 on field goals, including a game-winner from 61 yards against the Detroit Lions. Add in two dynamic returners in Jacoby Jones for the Ravens and Julian Edelman for the Patriots, and this game has a good chance to be significantly altered by the kicking and return game, which would be fitting for two teams whose head coaches got their start as special teams coordinators.

3. How will the Patriots approach the Ravens defensively? -- In the second leg of the season, the Patriots have opted to go to a 3-4 defense that has significantly altered the productivity of a number of players, including Chandler Jones (11.5 sacks) and Rob Ninkovich (6 sacks). Ninkovich's quarterback hurries have dropped off quite a bit. In the first half of the season, he recorded 26 hurries. In the second half, he has 12. But that's not all. While the Patriots started the year as a top 10 defense in yards allowed per game, they've slipped to 24th overall (372.7) thanks to a scheme that has rewarded offenses that can run and pass effectively in the short to intermediate range. But after allowing a season-high 280 yards rushing against the Denver Broncos, the Patriots' 31st-ranked run defense has been improving, buttoning up the holes that were once so glaring. All of which is to say that the players have sacrificed, and the team has sacrificed its pass defense, to help shut down the run. This week, it helps that the Patriots are going up against a Ravens team that has had trouble sticking with the run and doing so effectively. They're ranked 29th overall in the run game, leaving the Patriots the opportunity to focus more on a Ravens passing game that attacks all levels of the field. So how will the Patriots approach this game? Will they try and shut down the Ravens' passing attack by dropping back into coverage, or will they make sure that their once-porous run defense remains a thing of the past?

In each case both teams are in poor shape for the playoffs. The Ravens still have a very good defense, but their offense is terrible. The Patriots have a better but beat up offense and a beat up defense. The situation makes for a close score likely determined by which makes the best of it's opportunities.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[Joe.t]

HAHA, nice try Merlot but for FYI the Raiders are in fantastic shape, $60 million under the cap heading into next year meaning that they will be able to spend like drunken sailors in the offseason along with a top 5 pick led by a brilliant GM trained and brought in from Green Bay(I'm sure you have heard of them), the future is looking very bright meanwhile the Patriots will have an old, decaying, finger pointing, 37 year old crybaby qb leading the team(not good).

Today's CBS pregame show hall of famer's Boomer Esiason, Dan Marino, Shannon Sharpe shared my professional opinion and unanimously picked the Ravens to beat the pants off of the Patriots, I feel honored to be among those guys.:thumb:

The Patriots could still miss the playoffs with a whole bunch of possible scenarios, wouldn't that be a collapse of epic proportions for all times, I have my fingers crossed.:nod:

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

...meaning that they will be able to spend like drunken sailors in the offseason...

Tell me, Joe, how has spending "like drunken sailors" worked out for the hapless Yankees?

 

[Vercingentorix]

Miami -3 over Buffalo(taking them one step closer to first place)

Joe, do me a favor don't pick Miami again....LOL I told you they were a "paper tiger". Poor Tannehill was on his back more than his wife....LOL While I'm absolutely convinced the Bills were the better team today, the officiating was miserable. Generally I think the officials do quite well. They sucked today.

Note: Before the games tickets to the Jets Game under $100 were not plentiful. After the game almost the entire bowl could be had for $100. Bet I could snag one for under $50 closer to game time....LOL "Maybe Next Year" as I've said virtually every season since 1972. Philbin needs to go.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Another Golden Sombrero: 0-4
Congratulations, Joe. Four games, four misses. Now back to dead even with the team of blind monkeys picking at random. Total losses for the season now stand at 3200$. Yep, you are on fire. Those fifties are sure burning a hole in your pocket.

If your bookie calls, I'll tell him you're in the Bahamas.

 

[Special K]

Another Golden Sombrero: 0-4
Congratulations, Joe. Four games, four misses. Now back to dead even with the team of blind monkeys picking at random. Total losses for the season now stand at 3200$. Yep, you are on fire. Those fifties are sure burning a hole in your pocket.

If your bookie calls, I'll tell him you're in the Bahamas.

Dont forget though Rumps the picks he sent Iggys's way were all winners paying for Iggys's adventures in Montreal this week. Wait for it.....

 

[Joe.t]

On the bright side at least we(good, honest fans) do not have to put up with the constant whining of the Patriots(Brady in particular)and their loud, obnoxious, whining fans that follows this team after every loss so it was a win win situation, looking forward to the playoffs where it is one loss and you are out, or as the Patriots call it:help:.

 

[Merlot]

BOYZ!

My red hot winning picks for this week-

Oakland +10.5 over San Diego.

Tampa +5.5 over St.Louis.

Miami -3 over Buffalo(taking them one step closer to first place).

My sure shot pick is Baltimore -2.5 over the Whiners,...

...this will not even be close, I expect the margin of victory to be double digits,...

...this is not only my sure shot pick of the week but my sure shot pick for all times and really is a no brainer,...

...if you were to make one pick all year this is the one, New England with their depleted, injured team doesn't even stand a chance, have fun with your winnings guys.

Rumps, SK, CS, you really have not given Joe his full credit. He wasn't 0-4. His GOLDEN SOMBRERO was an El Magnifico 0-7. His predictions were such a total disaster that I have to nominate his post in entirety for Sports Screw Up of the Decade.

PATRIOTS 41 Ravens 7 Talk about being "creamed".

Someone asked Terrell Suggs, the always trash talking DB thug of the Ravens, what he thought went wrong. His response...I'd have to look at the tape, on second thought, burn the freaking tape. That's the magnitude of the TOTAL SPANKING the Patriots put on the Ravens in their worse home loss in team history. But he did get one thing right...Joe's prediction were a..."NO-BRAINER"!.

And Joe.t, he took a beating on every conceivable level, the kind of harsh spanking usually reserved as a privilege to be given by Iggy.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/patriots-strike-early-roll-past-ravens-41-21305770

The rematch was a mismatch.

Logan Ryan had two interceptions, LeGarrette Blount scored twice and the playoff-bound New England Patriots breezed past Baltimore 41-7 Sunday, ending the Ravens' four-game winning streak and diminishing the postseason hopes of the defending Super Bowl champions.

The previous time these two teams met, the AFC title hung in the balance and Baltimore used a strong second half to pull out a 28-13 victory.

In this one, New England took a 17-0 lead early in the second quarter and never let up behind a defense that forced four turnovers and had four sacks.

It was Baltimore's most lopsided loss since a 37-0 defeat at Pittsburgh in 1997. Things went so bad for the Ravens that Justin Tucker's run of 33 straight field goals ended when he went wide left on a 37-yarder with 14:19 remaining.

The Patriots (11-4) were assured their fifth straight AFC East title before the game started when Miami lost at Buffalo. It's the 11th division crown for New England coach Bill Belichick, tied with Don Shula for most since the 1970 merger.

The loss eliminated the Ravens (8-7) from contention in the AFC North and dropped them into a tie with Miami and San Diego for the final AFC wild-card slot. Baltimore closes the regular season at Cincinnati, which displaced the Ravens as division champs.

Joe Flacco went 22 for 38 for 260 yards and two interceptions for the Ravens, who fell to 6-2 at home this season. Wearing a brace on his left knee after being injured last week in Detroit, Flacco had difficulty escaping the unyielding pressure applied by New England's defensive front.

Baltimore trailed 20-0 late in the third quarter when Ray Rice was stuffed for no gain on a fourth-and-1 at the New England 4. That effectively ended any chance of a comeback.

Joe...you DON'T know Football.

Cheers,

Merlot

PS Joe:

Have you noticed how well the Eagles have done without Michael Vick. :thumb:

 

[lgna69xxx]

Mr.T. your plan worked like a charm, as always LOL! Good Job

 

[Vercingentorix]

PATRIOTS 41 Ravens 7 Talk about being "creamed".

I didn't watch then entire gams, but the score seems to indicate the definition of "creamed".

 

[Doc Holliday]

More like 'squashed'.

 

[Joe.t]

My picks for this last week of the regular season(boy, did it ever go by fast).

Cleveland +7.5 over Pittsburgh.

Miami -6.5 over the Jets.

Oakland +13 over Denver

My sure shot pick is Buffalo +9.5 over New England.

My picks as usual come from the respected pro line site which is the legal betting site for Ontario.

http://proline.olg.ca/pointspreadEvents.do

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

(boy, did it ever go by fast).

and boy would you ever have lost a pile of dough if you'd actually been betting.

 

[Joe.t]

Au contraire mon ami, I have been and I am slightly ahead, just wait for my playoff picks, that's where gamblers make most of their money, stay tuned.

BTW- Do yourself a favor and take Buffalo, you can thank me later.