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Leafs distracted by trade deadline

The Maple Leafs can talk all they want about not letting the trade deadline distract them the next 72 hours.

But two newly-emptied stalls on Friday were a stark reminder that this is break-up time for many NHL teams. Forwards Darryl Boyce and Jay Rosehill were on waivers, with one Marlie coming up the road, and more significant moves likely by 3 p.m. on Monday.

In the middle of this uncertainty is one of the most important games of the year (we really mean it this time) on Saturday against the Washington Capitals. It’s possibly the Last Chance Saloon for one or two bubble players or an unsuspecting bloke who didn’t think he was moving. General manager Brian Burke, who was talking about bulking the Leafs up to go for a long playoff run not too long ago, could now be forced into making a deal just to save face and get a playoff spot.

“There is a lot swirling around,” winger Joey Crabb agreed after practice. “I think you can make a pretty big case out of every game and this is obviously a big one.”

Forwards Matt Frattin, Joe Colborne and Nazem Kadri are among the candidates for promotion at noon Saturday when Boyce and Rosehill presumably clear. Frattin’s $1.3 million cap hit is equal to the total of Boyce and Rosehill combined.

But until Monday afternoon all the Marlie prospects are in play for Burke, who is trying to keep his seat at the poker table for a big-name player.

The Leafs, who began the weekend in ninth spot due to a 1-6-1 funk, could be bounced lower if the Caps don’t have their full attention.

“It’s up to different individuals,” coach Ron Wilson said of how his team is trying to stay sane through Deadline Monday. “Some guys don’t give it any thought at all. Others struggle a bit with it in the back of their minds — ‘am I going to be one of the guys who has to move’ when they don’t want to?

“Some people will find an excuse that affects their performance, ‘I have the flu, I don’t feel well.’ We just have to find a way to think about the game, then the deadline will be over and we go from there.”

Captain Dion Phaneuf took umbrage with media suggestions that the team should expect a shuffle, based on its recent skid.

“When we were getting points a month and a half ago, whether it be wins or (overtime losses), you guys weren’t asking about the group we have,” Phaneuf retorted. “I definitely believe in the group we have. We’ve worked very hard to put ourselves in the position we’re in (closest to playoffs in the Burke-Wilson era). We’ve played a lot of good hockey throughout the year.”

Young defencemen Luke Schenn and Jake Gardiner have been mentioned constantly in trade rumours and possible unrestricted free agent centre Mikhail Grabovski could be on the list if Burke thinks contract talks aren’t going in the right direction.

“There shouldn’t be anxiety (in the room),” Phaneuf argued. “This time of year is part of the business. Trading is part of of the game, movement is part of the game. Every year there’s a deadline, every year there are rumours. It’s definitely a tough part of the year for guys whose names come up, but that’s all it is.

The guys mentioned have done a really good job handling it. We’re focused (on the playoff race), not about the deadline, not about what could happen.”

Wilson said making a call-up had been discussed for a few days, likely accelerated by three straight losses.

“We’ve wanted to clean up some space before Monday,” Wilson said. “We were going to bring someone in who can maybe provide a spark.”

Dry-docked winger and alternate captain Colby Armstrong will be back in the lineup Saturday. But fellow alternate, defenceman Mike Komisarek, who is stalled on 499 career games for a week, doesn’t know his status yet.

“We’re excited for this game,” Crabb added. “Whatever else happens, we want to make the playoffs this year.”

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2012/02/24/19422676.html
 

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Darryl Boyce claimed by Jackets

Darryl Boyce was just claimed by the Blue Jackets. Hard to figure out that move since he'll be a free agent after this season (UFA). Maybe they plan to trade him by Monday afternoon, who knows.
 

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Matt Frattin called up

The Leafs have called up forward Matt Frattin & he'll take one of the two remaining spots on the roster.
 

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"Here's my guess; 5% chance of Nash trade to TOR. 60% Grabovski for a first. 30% Schenn moved. 50/50 Kulemin or MacArthur goes."-------Damian Cox

(I agree with Cox; i also think the Leafs will move at least one defenceman; they hope to move Komisarek, but a lot of teams want Gunnerson; i also think there's a 50% chance Colby Armstrong could be moved.)
 

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Burke: "No chance we'll trade Grabovski"

Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brian Burke gave a vote of confidence to Mikhail Grabovski, saying there is "no chance" the club will trade the centre before today's deadline.

Burke told TSN that progress is being made in contract negotiations with the 27-year-old Belarusian.

Grabovski is in the final year of a three-year contract he signed with the Maple Leafs in 2009 worth an average annual value of $2.9 million. He is due to become an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season.

In 56 games with the Leafs this season, Grabovski has scored 18 goals and added 22 assists.

After a career year in 2010-11 in which he scored 29 goals and 29 assists, Grabovski struggled early on this season for the Leafs scoring just 11 points through the first two months of the season. However, he got hot in January, scoring 16 points in the month and winning an NHL first star award for the third week.

Grabovski was originally drafted by the Canadiens in the fifth round (150th overall) at the 2004 NHL Entry Draft.

One of the first notable faces of the post-Mats Sundin Leafs, Grabovski was brought to Toronto by interim-general manager Cliff Fletcher in 2008 for Greg Pateryn and a second-round draft pick.

He has scored 80 goals and 110 assists in 301 career NHL games with the Leafs and Canadiens.
 

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Aulie/Ashton Trade

Good trade for both, time will tell who comes out on top of this one but as a Leafs fan, we had the depth at D in the system to be able to trade Aulie. Hate to see him go but we are getting a good tough young skilled guy with NHL pedigree (His dad is Brent Ashton who played 998 games in the NHL) who will go to the net, hit, fight if needed, is fast, has great hands and vision. From what the experts are saying he should round out to be a very good top 6 within 1-2 seasons. :thumb:


What Leafs fans are saying about the trade:

Carter Ashton!

I wouldn't trade this guy for Rick Nash!

great trade

What a trade...
WOOOOO HOOOO Carter Ashton!!!!!

Great ****ing trade Burke

Terrific trade.

Love it.Suck it Burke haters

Awesome pickup. Ashton is sick.

Anyone complaining now? I got to give it to Burke this guy can make trades. Awesome.

Nice Trade...Phaneuf Trade just keeps getting better.

Holy ****, that's a good return.

Well done Burke, just pure awesomeness.

6'3 205? Yes sir

Excellent trade.

I love it. Burke delivers once again.

Wow.... what a deal. Love it!

Ashton. Big boy, can skate and score. Potential top 6 player.


And many many more comments all like the above....

Lets see what Tampa Head coach Guy Boucher has to say about young Ashton Carter:

Boucher: "he's a real power forward. We use that word often with guys that don't really deserve it but in this case he's the real deal."

Burke, you hit another homerun today!
 
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There's an ol' saying that goes something like "the best trades are often the ones that don't get made." I believe that the Leafs did the right thing today by not panicking and trading their future. Their farm team is loaded with prospects & they still have the youngest team in the entire NHL. The future looks extremely bright, whether they make the playoffs or not.

I love the Ashton/Aulie trade. It'll help both teams. Toronto had a surplus of defencemen in the organization & Korbinian Holzer will be with the big team next season. Jessie Blacker is also high on the depth chart & is possibly a year or two away. I'm happy for Keith Aulie because he's a good kid & he deserves to play fulltime in the NHL.

Many will complain that the Leafs should have went to get a goalie. However, there weren't any available that would have been an improvement on what they currently have. Nabokov wasn't going anywhere & the Isles indicated they'd try to re-sign him. There was talk that Toronto should go after Nashville's backup goalie, but i never heard anywhere that he was available and the Preds need him for their playoffs run.

If the Leafs fail to make the playoffs, i expect big changes during the off-season, starting with the coaching staff. Reimer might remain with the team, but i'd be surprised if Gustavsson was still with the organization. Who knows where Mike Komisarek will wind up. My guess is that he'll either be traded or sent to the minors, but it'll depend on who's the coach next season. It's rather obvious that Ron Wilson has totally lost confidence in him & would rather see him in the pressbox than at the end of his bench. I expect to see Mikael Grabovski back with the team, but the jury's out on Kulemin & MacArthur. Colby Armstrong might be dealt during the offseason, and Mathew Lombardi may not be back. It'll be an interesting off-season.
 

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Burke has luxury of standing pat

by Jeff Blair, The Globe and Mail

How quiet were things in the Toronto Maple Leafs strategy room in the hours leading up to the NHL trade deadline Monday? So quiet, there was time for Brian Burke to make up more new rules.

Starting next season, the Leafs general manager might impose his own 10-day trade deadline ahead of the league’s deadline because of the damage it wreaks on the fragile psyche of players. Wait a minute – we all thought these guys didn’t read the papers or watch television or listen to the radio?

The deadline is hard on NHL players but it is “murder in Toronto,” Burke said, after making a pair of minor deals. “So, I’m debating doing what we do at Christmas,” he groused, mentioning on multiple occasions that the Leafs had “serious discussions upstairs” about imposing their own deadline. More serious, it appears, than whether they’d trade James Reimer or Jake Gardiner, which tells you the type of day it was at the Air Canada Centre.

Burke couched his notions with the caveat that he wanted to make sure his hands weren’t tied by imposing his own deadline – in effect, taking his ball and going home, to hell with the rest of you. For that, Leafs Nation ought to take comfort, because Burke’s homemade rules too often mitigate the financial clout this organization ought to wield. Really, isn’t the point to try and screw over the other guy, not be your brother’s keeper?

So, too, is there comfort that Rick Nash is still with the Columbus Blue Jackets because Burke’s chances of acquiring the power forward are much greater in the summer than at the deadline. It’s going to take three or four high-quality assets to get Nash, who is tailor-made for the Leafs, and putting a package together that addresses all of Columbus’s needs is easier in the summer when Burke has time to fill in any gaps that might be created. Besides, if the Leafs continue their slide, Toronto’s first-round draft pick this year becomes an even more valuable asset to the Blue Jackets.

There were no trades for the future, because Burke essentially said it was pointless to give up assets that are a year away from the NHL – or a year or two or three into NHL careers – for assets that are farther back, or first-round draft picks. So he stood pat – refraining from dumping players for draft picks and surrendering a shot at the playoffs and almost certain first-round demolition, deciding against adding players to beef up his team’s chances of emerging from a fragile group of Eastern Conference playoff worthies.

Burke is one lucky guy. Most GMs see their currency with ownership diminish with each playoff-free season, but his seems to grow, or at least he acts like it does, which is half the battle in Toronto.

So Burke can stand up there and say he’s willing to go all in with a group that is almost single-handedly responsible for keeping four other teams in the playoff hunt, that he’s willing to ride a pair of goaltenders his head coach clearly thinks aren’t good enough. (Ron Wilson’s comments after a 4-2 loss Saturday to the Washington Capitals that “we need to figure out a way to get a save here or there” could not be taken to mean that he thought goaltending guru François Allaire and goalies Reimer or Jonas Gustavsson had any answers.) So he can stand there and say that there has been “no discussion about a coaching change,” despite the regression of players under Wilson and a total lack of defensive responsibility. The Florida Panthers come into the ACC Tuesday night facing a Leafs team with the same old tiresome coach, same goaltending problems and same lightweight forwards and wandering defencemen.

The good news is that a postseason spot is still in play, somehow. The better news is Nash will be in play over the summer. It’s a glass half-full win in a glass half-empty season.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/jeff-blair/burke-has-luxury-of-standing-pat/article2351897/
 

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Grabovski very happy to still be a Maple Leaf

He’s gone 12 games without a goal and his team has lost eight of its last nine games but Maple Leafs centre Mikhail Grabovski remains very happy that he’s still in Toronto.

So is his wife.

“For me, the most pressure is if your wife likes what you do,” said Grabovski, showing he still has his sense of humour despite his, and the team’s, lack of production over the past several weeks.

There had been much speculation that Leafs would trade him to Los Angeles or Columbus before Monday’s trade deadline as part of a package to land either Rick Nash of the Blue Jackets or goalie Jonathan Bernier and Dustin Brown of the Kings.

But Grabovski, an unrestricted free agent in the summer, breathed a big sigh of relief when the trade deadline passed.

He had insisted over the past couple of weeks that the trade speculation didn’t bother him but on Tuesday he conceded it did have some effect and he was glad it was all over.

“It’s good for me. No pressure now,” Grabovski said. “Everybody talked about that. I try not to listen but it comes to my head any way. I’m very happy that Brian (Burke) has given me the chance to play here. I try to do my best and play very hard,

“It’s (trade rumours) been difficult. But right now my head is about making points and winning games. That’s the most important thing. For me, playing in Toronto, working hard every day for the fans is a good kind of pressure. It makes you feel better inside.”

Grabovski can walk at the end of the season without Leafs getting anything in return but he and the team appear confident that a new deal will get done. It’s believed he’s seeking a lengthy deal worth about $5 million per season.

Grabovski and winger Clarke MacArthur each have 18 goals this season and they will play with rookie Matt Frattin against the South Division leading Florida Panthers on Tuesday at the Air Canada Centre.

He said Frattin brings similar talents to the line that Nikolai Kulemin did, the player Frattin is replacing.

“He brings speed. He’s a big guy, a strong guy. He drives to the net very hard. He’s very skilled and gives our line a lot of chances,” said Grabovski, who agreed communication on the ice also helps.

“He’s pretty much the same as Kulemin except that he doesn’t understand Russian. His (Frattin’s) Russian is not as good as my English.”

http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs...il-grabovski-s-glad-trade-deadline-has-passed
 

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Great move by Burkie! Stanley Cup winner Randy Carlyle named new Leafs head coach! Bring on the Cup! :thumb:

Randy Carlyle named new Maple Leafs head coach

The Toronto Maple Leafs slide out of a playoff position has cost head coach Ron Wilson his job.

The club let Wilson go on Friday evening, have replaced him with former Anaheim Ducks coach Randy Carlyle.

The Leafs, who only have one win in their last 11 games, have fallen out of a playoff spot, and currently sit in 11th place in the Eastern Conference.

The move comes just a few months after Wilson was given a one-year contract extension in late December.

Carlyle is expected to be behind the bench on Saturday evening when the Leafs play the Montreal Canadiens.

Chants of "Fire Wilson!" echoed through Air Canada Centre when the Maple Leafs fell 5-3 to the Florida Panthers on (Tuesday) Feb. 28. The game marked Wilson's 1,400th career NHL game coached, tying him with Pat Quinn for fourth on the all-time list.

Hired in 2008, Wilson was unable to guide the Maple Leafs to the playoffs during his tenure. They currently own the NHL's second-longest playoff drought at seven years.

Wilson recorded a 34-35-13 mark in his Maple Leafs debut, the club finishing 12th in the Eastern Conference. The following year, the team posted a 30-38-14 record and finished last in the Conference. Last season, Wilson had his first winning season with the Maple Leafs, going 37-34-11, which was good enough for 10th in the Conference.

Through 64 games this season, the Maple Leafs are 29-28-7. Wilson leaves the Toronto with a 130-135-45 record with the Leafs.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=389346
 

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I'd be surprised if its Dallas Eakins right now, he has the Marlies in first place and they wanna go deepin the playoffs towards a Calder Cup, plus that would be brutal to send a rookie coach into the fire right now. Likely one of Gordon or Cronin tomorrow night until they decide who to hire but my gut feeling is Randy Carlyle as he and Burke won a Cup together in Anaheim. I wish Ron Wilson well, but even i can admit it was time for change as i was telling Doc a cpl nights ago. The fact remains if we had a Timmy Thomas or a Henrik L of the rangers or even Carey Price, we would be in the top 5, but those guys dont grow on trees. Reimer could still be "THAT" guy that we saw last year, but he needs to get it together. Ever since that hit back in October by Gionta to Reimers head, he has not been the same.

No replacement has yet been announced. My guess is that it's Randy Carlisle, but it could be Dallas Eakins.

A few days ago, i heard Patrick Roy's name being floated around for next season if he doesn't get the Montreal job once this season ends.
 

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A month or so ago, the Leafs were in very good shape for the playoffs. The team was playing well, the goalies were good, and the team was confident. However, they came back flat after the all-star break. Then all the talk about trading the likes of Schenn, Grabovski, Macarthur, Gardiner, Kulemin & even Lupul prior to trade deadline day didn't help, and both Burke & Wilson admitted that the stress of wondering if you'd be traded or not had taken its toll on the players.

But it all goes back to the goaltending, which admittedly has stunk the joint over the past 10 games or so. With two very young goalies on the team & no veteran in the organization to turn to, this made things worse for the coach. On a side note, i always thought it was a mistake to send down Kadri after his last stint with the team, but i'm not blessed with 20/20 hindsight & i never imagined the team would win just one game after his demotion.

I've never been much of a Ron Wilson fan. As fellow Leaf fan Iggy knows, the thread i had started last year in regards to Wilson was sarcastic. I think i had named it the Ron Wilson hockey coaching excellence or something like that. However, it wasn't Ron Wilson who was letting in soft goals on a regular basis, and giving away the puck in their own zone on a regular basis lately. Heck, at times, some of the defencemen were playing like a grenade! And finally, Grabovski was one of the top players on the team until February, and then he went dead-cold. Its' possible that current contract negotiations were bothering him, who knows.

But to conclude, Ron Wilson's lack of success with the penalty killing did him in. Since his tenure with the Leafs (and even prior to his hiring), the penalty has constantly been near the bottom of the league. This has to change. I'll admit that even though i've never been a huge Ron Wilson fan, he's always had his teams play extremely hard. However, when the goalies develop a knack to let in cheap goals on a nightly basis (on more than one occasion), well, it ain't always the coach's fault. Maybe if the GM would have acquired a quality veteran goaltender prior to the season, Ron Wilson would still be coaching the Leafs.

Finally, Ron Wilson is a very good coach & his resume backs it up. Toronto isn't an easy place to coach in, and he could have handled his dealings with the media better. If Randy Carlyle wants to have an easier time in Toronto, then i hope for his sake that he gets along well with the media. Toronto is the hockey center of the universe, after all, and dealing with the media on a regular basis comes with the territory. I wish Ron Wilson well & may he take advantage of his time off.
 

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I'm currently watching the Randy Carlyle/Brian Burke press conference. Brian Burke indicated that Randy Carlyle was allowed to bring in an assistant of his choice, and chose to bring in the well-regarded Dave Farrish to be in charge of the defence. I remember Farrish playing for the Leafs in the early 80's & remember his thundering hip checks, which would likely be illegal today. Current Leaf assistant coach Rob Zettler will be re-assigned to make room for Farrish.

I read yesterday that Joffrey Lupul had his share of disaggreements with Carlyle during their days Anaheim, and Carlyle addressed this today, admitting that he may have misused Lupul while in Anaheim & that whatever happened between the two was now water under the bridge. I hope this is indeed the case.

At times, it appeared that Burke was choked up while talking about his firing of Wilson, and gave an indication that he absolutely hated to fire him. Negotiations with the Carlyle camp appeared to have begun Thursday, after Burke got permission from Bob Murray of the Ducks on Wednesday to begin negotiations with Carlyle.
 

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How about just bring on the Stanley Cup finals - Toronto hasn't had a sniff since '67 !

I have a bad memory......please help me out......when was the last time that the Habs went to the finals? You make it sound like it was yesterday.
 

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Quote of the night from #84 Mikhail Grabovski

“No pressure. No Kostitsyns either,” he said, referring to his Andrei and Sergei, his countrymen, former teammates and occasional nemeses, who now play in Nashville


:lol::D:lol::D.............'Oleeeeeeeeeeeeeeee hAbs Still SUCK! :thumb:
 

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While I would like to see as many teams from Canada make the playoffs, given my opinion of Burke and Wilson, I predicted the contrary in the 2012 thread two months ago.

Of the Leafs' last 15 games, they are not favored in at least 10. They can't back in either as the four teams ahead of them play each other a fair bit so it is almost impossible for all four of them to have losing records in their remaining games. Even if the Leafs vastly improve immediately, I wouldn't even wager with someone who does pay his gambling debts.
 

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while I would like to see as many teams from Canada make the playoffs, given my opinion of Burke and Wilson, I predicted the contrary in the 2012 thread two months ago.

Of the Leafs' last 15 games, they are not favored in at least 10. They can't back in either as the four teams ahead of them play each other a fair bit so it is almost impossible for all four of them to have losing records in their remaining games. Even if the Leafs vastly improve immediately, I wouldn't even wager with someone who does pay his gambling debts.

Were have you been anon, aren't you due for your once a year SP review?.
 
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