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The "luck" argument, just like blaming the refs, is complete and utter BS. You can be "lucky/unlucky" for one or two games, but over 20 games things balance out and you are what your record shows.
Do I believe that Doc can offer an unbiased objective opinion of the Leafs and Habs? Hell no.
Do I believe that Doc can offer an unbiased objective opinion of the Leafs and Habs? Hell no.
sour grapes
More recycled, weak, pathetic and lame excuses from fans of a 3 and 16 team.
According to Leaf fans:
• The Leafs should be 19-0
• The Leafs deserved to win but lost
• The Leafs were snake bit around the net
• The Leafs got ripped off by the refs
• The other team’s winning goal was a lucky bounce
• Luck doesn't seem to be with the Leafs
• The Leafs don't get ANY bounces
• The other team’s goalie stole the game
• Ron Wilson is the best coach in the NHL
• Brian Burke is the best G.M. in the the league
but in reality:
• The Leafs have 3 wins in 19 games
• The Leafs take more bad penalties at the wrong times
• The Leafs give up the puck, it costs them
• The Leaf forwards can't finish around the net
• The Leafs lack skills to convert work into results
• The Leafs demonstrate no offensive imagination. Their shoot outside and pray approach is not sufficient to be a winning team.
• The Leafs' defense comes down to the 'tender not the team
• The Leafs have to depend on the other team not doing their job
• The Leaf’s opposition is yet to be out-coached (Wilson hasn't out coached anyone)
• Gasbag Burke has the Leafs in 30th place despite spending up to the cap maximum (and beyond).
More recycled, weak, pathetic and lame excuses from fans of a 3 and 16 team.
According to Leaf fans:
• The Leafs should be 19-0
• The Leafs deserved to win but lost
• The Leafs were snake bit around the net
• The Leafs got ripped off by the refs
• The other team’s winning goal was a lucky bounce
• Luck doesn't seem to be with the Leafs
• The Leafs don't get ANY bounces
• The other team’s goalie stole the game
• Ron Wilson is the best coach in the NHL
• Brian Burke is the best G.M. in the the league
but in reality:
• The Leafs have 3 wins in 19 games
• The Leafs take more bad penalties at the wrong times
• The Leafs give up the puck, it costs them
• The Leaf forwards can't finish around the net
• The Leafs lack skills to convert work into results
• The Leafs demonstrate no offensive imagination. Their shoot outside and pray approach is not sufficient to be a winning team.
• The Leafs' defense comes down to the 'tender not the team
• The Leafs have to depend on the other team not doing their job
• The Leaf’s opposition is yet to be out-coached (Wilson hasn't out coached anyone)
• Gasbag Burke has the Leafs in 30th place despite spending up to the cap maximum (and beyond).
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do you know how to read? will you PLEASE post your usual nonsense and stupidity in "your" thread and not this one like the mods asked like a million times? it is not that hard, go to goscabsgo thread and do your silly posts there........ did you not pass high school, or just hitting the Molsons a little to hard tonight? 
hence the LUCKY part
Looks like Gionta is gone indefinitely with a broken foot. Things just keep getting worse for the habs on the injury front.
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Looks like Gionta is gone indefinitely with a broken foot. Things just keep getting worse for the habs on the injury front.
I wonder who'll take his job holding the flag before the game? So far, only he & Cammalleri have been given the jobs of holding a flag & skating around the ice with it while the rest of the team jumps onto the ice & skates around....
Maybe Gomez?
Luck has nothing to do with it.
In overtime playing four on four it's the team with the best skaters and most talent that will always dominate thanks to the extra room on the ice . As for the shootout, it's simply the purest demonstration of skill in hockey, one shooter versus a goalie with only talent determining who wins so the reality is the Habs win because they have small, fast, talented players and the Leafs lose because they have big, slow, talentless players.
This reality also manifests itself when skating 5 on 5 where the Leafs are the league's worst scoring team. The fact that they've scored most of their goals on the power play where the game is played on one third of the rink thereby taking skating out of the equitation also proves my point. All their success comes from crashing the net and screening goalies. No talent is required for that, all you need is some big oafs that can bounce pucks off their heads without getting killed.
In overtime playing four on four it's the team with the best skaters and most talent that will always dominate thanks to the extra room on the ice . As for the shootout, it's simply the purest demonstration of skill in hockey, one shooter versus a goalie with only talent determining who wins so the reality is the Habs win because they have small, fast, talented players and the Leafs lose because they have big, slow, talentless players.
This reality also manifests itself when skating 5 on 5 where the Leafs are the league's worst scoring team. The fact that they've scored most of their goals on the power play where the game is played on one third of the rink thereby taking skating out of the equitation also proves my point. All their success comes from crashing the net and screening goalies. No talent is required for that, all you need is some big oafs that can bounce pucks off their heads without getting killed.
Travis Moen will likely play on the first line in their next game. White will play with Lapierre & Latendresse. I simply don't get it. Moen's effectiveness is when he's on the 3rd line. I don't think he'll add anything to the first line, with Cammalleri & Gomez already there. But the 3rd line will greatly miss his presence. I think this move will make the team worse than better.
Ryan O'Byrne is not expected to play. I have no idea who will be in nets, but if Carey Price doesn't get the nod, that's a slap in his face. He's been phenomenal lately.
Ryan O'Byrne is not expected to play. I have no idea who will be in nets, but if Carey Price doesn't get the nod, that's a slap in his face. He's been phenomenal lately.
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Tyler or Taylor
The debate over who will be the No. 1 pick in the 2010 National Hockey League Draft is sure to heat up now.
http://www.windsorstar.com/sports/T...+still+dominate+draft+list/2233338/story.html
Either way, Boston (via Toronto) and Carolina are going to end up with a pretty good player.
The debate over who will be the No. 1 pick in the 2010 National Hockey League Draft is sure to heat up now.
http://www.windsorstar.com/sports/T...+still+dominate+draft+list/2233338/story.html
Either way, Boston (via Toronto) and Carolina are going to end up with a pretty good player.
Looks like Gionta is gone indefinitely with a broken foot. Things just keep getting worse for the habs on the injury front.
His offense will be missed - any timeline on Markov?
Congratulations to the Canes on their stirring victory (their 4th of this young season, vaulting them all the way into sole position of 29th place.
Congratulations also to the Leafs for winning yet another point (albeit losing yet another game - still, they do have 3 wins in 20 games, and what's so bad about a 15% win record?). By picking up that point the Leafs have solidified their hold on 30th place.
And sincere condolences to Phil Kessel for being unable to score in the shootout.
Congratulations also to the Leafs for winning yet another point (albeit losing yet another game - still, they do have 3 wins in 20 games, and what's so bad about a 15% win record?). By picking up that point the Leafs have solidified their hold on 30th place.
And sincere condolences to Phil Kessel for being unable to score in the shootout.
I guess the Leafs were unlucky yet again ...
Can't blame this one on Toskala either since the Monster was in nets.
No reason the Leafs should have given up a 3 goal lead, and especially one with under 3 seconds left, but they got robbed by an awful call by the referree in the 3rd period when he called a 4-minute penality on Ian White for high sticking when in fact Stephane Yelle (of the Canes) was the one who had committed the foul on his own player. Carolina later scored the tying goal on the powerplay.
I'll say it again: "the Leafs are the unluckiest team in the entire NHL".
This being the "serious" hockey thread there probably should be no mention of the Leafs allowed since they are the laughing stock of the league however I have to agree with Doc on one point and of course laugh at another one.
The Leafs were victim of a bad call that allowed the fourth Caroline goal. The slow motion replay showed that White never touched the Carolina player. At regular speed everyone in the building including the TSN announcers thought White was responsible. (Great acting by Tom Kostopoulos BTW)
As far as bad luck is concerned, the fact of the matter is the Leafs lost a 3-0, 4-2, and 5-4 lead to a team that's decimated by injuries and who's goalie was having an awful night. Carolina out shot Toronto 34 to 15 after the first period which means most player on the NHL's dodgeball powerhouse decided they had earned their salaries in the first twenty minutes. Shitty effort and lack of talent in the OT/shootout once again doomed the Leafs not bad luck.
PS. I feel bad for Luck Schenn who only played 9 minutes last night. Wilson and Burke are well on their way to destroying the only decent prospect in the whole organization.
however I have to agree with Doc on one point and of course laugh at another one. The Leafs were victim of a bad call that allowed the fourth Caroline goal. The slow motion replay showed that White never touched the Carolina player. At regular speed everyone in the building including the TSN announcers thought White was responsible. (Great acting by Tom Kostopoulos BTW
)As far as bad luck is concerned, the fact of the matter is the Leafs lost a 3-0, 4-2, and 5-4 lead to a team that's decimated by injuries and who's goalie was having an awful night. Carolina out shot Toronto 34 to 15 after the first period which means most player on the NHL's dodgeball powerhouse decided they had earned their salaries in the first twenty minutes.
Shitty effort and lack of talent in the OT/shootout once again doomed the Leafs not bad luck.PS. I feel bad for Luck Schenn who only played 9 minutes last night. Wilson and Burke are well on their way to destroying the only decent prospect in the whole organization.
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