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[gohabsgo]

And OHHHHH What a game it was!...

Over the course of an 82 game season, even shitty teams like the Leafs will go on 1 and 2 game winning streaks and good teams like the Habs will have a rare off night or two - nothing more, nothing less.

Perhaps because your loser team has missed the playoffs in four straight seasons (soon to be five) and hasn't had so much as a sniff of the Stanley Cup finals in 43 years - a two game winning streak for Leaf fans must feel like Toronto just took home a championship ?

 

[Doc Holliday]

Hab reject Guillaume Latendresse leads Wild over Ducks

Way to go, Guillaume!


ST. PAUL, Minn. - Guillame Latendresse scored the winning goal in the shootout to give the Minnesota Wild a 5-4 victory over the Anaheim Ducks on Friday night.

Latendresse fired a shot through the legs of Anaheim goalie Jonas Hiller in the fourth round of the shootout to give the Wild another come-from-behind win and points in six straight games.

Mikko Koivu and Antti Miettinen scored two goals apiece in regulation for Minnesota, and Miettinen also scored in the shootout.

Joffrey Lupul had two goals in his return to the lineup for the Ducks and then scored in the third round of the shootout. Bobby Ryan also scored twice for Anaheim.

The Ducks were playing without Teemu Selanne, who broke his left hand in Thursday's loss at Dallas. Selanne underwent surgery on Friday and is expected to miss four to six weeks.

The resilient Wild just keep coming back from early deficits.

Minnesota allowed the first goal for the seventh time in its last eight games. The Wild trailed 2-0 against the Ducks and twice came back from two-goal deficits.

Koivu and Miettinen each scored in the final five minutes of regulation with Miettinen's second goal of the game coming with just 1:41 remaining in the third.

A night after watching a third-period lead slip away on a pair of fluky goals, Anaheim was the opportunistic team early against the Wild, leading 2-1 after two periods despite being outshot 20-9.

But the Ducks witnessed another third-period lead fall. Miettinen scored just over a minute into the third, before Lupul and Ryan gave Anaheim a 4-2 lead.

Lupul had missed seven games with back spasms. The winger opened the scoring just over six minutes into the first as he fired a shot over Minnesota goalie Niklas Backstrom's left shoulder. Play continued as the goal was waved off, but Lupul earned credit for his seventh of the season after a review showed the shot ricochet off the back pipe and back out to the faceoff circle.

NOTES: The Wild's four-game winning streak is its longest since October 2008. ... A day after his franchise-record 19-game point streak was snapped, RW Corey Perry was back at it with an assist on Lupul's first goal. Perry has 16 points in 17 career games against the Wild, including two goals and two assists in the three contests this season. ... Ducks D Scott Niedermayer went down awkwardly after being hit by a shot in the second period, but he later returned. ... The Ducks have killed off 24 of their last 26 penalties. They've also scored a power-play goal in five of their last six games.

 

[gohabsgo]

Way to go, Guillaume!
ST. PAUL, Minn. - Guillame Latendresse scored the winning goal in the shootout to give the Minnesota Wild a 5-4 victory over the Anaheim Ducks on Friday night.

BIG DEAL. Let me compile a list of every single game where an ex-Leaf scored the winning goal with his new team. This list will be even longer than the list of Toronto wasted draft picks (and that was a pretty long list!).

 

[gohabsgo]

Way to go, Guillaume!

O.K., lets get it started. Leaf reject Brad Boyes had 11 game winning goals last season alone, including a shoot out winner against Toronto.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2008020032

http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2008020032

Do you want me to post the game summaries from the other 10 games that season? How about the game summaries from every game where Boyes had the game winning goal from every season starting from when Toronto gave up on him?

We could then move on to Steen, another Leaf reject, or how about Wellwood, another Leaf reject - I'm sure they have a few game winning goals since Toronto gave up on them.

Not just regulation, but we can add GWG's during OT and the SO as well. Do you see my point, fool?

Blues 5, Maple Leafs 4, SO
Wednesday, 04.08.2009 / 4:06 AM
Associated Press

TORONTO (AP) -With a 3-0 lead after the first period, the Toronto Maple appeared to have control of the game. Then came a bad bounce that led to a goal and a careless boarding penalty by repeat offender Ryan Hollweg, and the St. Louis Blues were suddenly back in it.

Andy McDonald and Brad Boyes scored in a shootout to give the Blues a 5-4 comeback win over the Maple Leafs on Monday.

"We came out really strong, put them down on their butts and we talked during the first intermission that we have to come out really hard and the first 5 minutes (of the second period) was important," Leafs center Nik Antropov said. "Unfortunately, we get a bad bounce, a penalty for 5 minutes, and they capitalized on that."

Manny Legace stopped Nik Antropov, allowed a goal to Nikolai Kulemin and then stopped Pavel Kubina in the shootout to win it. Vesa Toskala was beaten by both St. Louis shooters.

Hollweg, back after serving a two-game suspension for collecting three boarding penalties in a 41-game span, is likely to face more discipline for his hit on Blues rookie defenseman Alex Pietrangelo.

"There's a fine line you dance of being aggressive and then completely pulling back and we've got to work with him to find that fine line," Maple Leafs coach Ron Wilson said.

Pietrangelo may have somewhat turned into the hit, but Hollweg won't get the benefit of the doubt from officials with his track record. A fourth boarding major is expected to earn Hollweg an automatic three-game suspension from the NHL.

"It shouldn't happen in our game and it happened," Blues coach Andy Murray said. "If it was Keith Tkachuk or Alex Pietrangelo, I wouldn't feel any differently about it. It's unnecessary and certainly the league will deal with it."

Boyes banged in a rebound 33 seconds into the second period after Toskala robbed McDonald to make it a 3-1 game. After Hollweg was whistled for his penalty 1:50 later, Patrik Berglund scored on a rebound past a prone Toskala at 4:47 and Keith Tkachuk buried a feed from Paul Kariya at 5:35 to tie the score.

"You have to at least limit the damage and we didn't," Wilson said. "We allowed them right back into the game at that point."

Niklas Hagman restored a lead for the Leafs at the 14-minute mark of the second period.

The Blues tied it at 4 at 4:21 of the third period on Kariya's backhander to set up the dramatic finish in the only meeting of the season between the teams.

Early on it looked like the Thanksgiving Day crowd of 19,045, enjoying a rare afternoon game at the Air Canada Centre, would be treated to a rout from the home side.

Tomas Kaberle got the Leafs on the board a 3:22. Nikolai Kulemin scored with 5:54 left and Alexei Ponikarovsky made it 3-0 a little more than 2 minutes later.

Notes: Hollweg's return to the lineup sent Matt Stajan to the pressbox, ending the center's streak of 178 straight games played. ... Blues RW Lee Stempniak missed his second straight game after tweaking his left knee during the first period of Friday's 5-2 win over Nashville. LW Dwayne King and D Mike Weaver were also scratched. ... Leafs forward Jamal Mayers faced the Blues for the first time since his trade to Toronto in June. He spent his first 10 NHL seasons in St. Louis.

 

[lgna69xxx]

seriously,. do you NOT listen to the Mods? take it to "your" lil silly thread and not here where it is suppossed to be real hockey talk....... geez, and u claim to have a education,? then show it for once...... you really need to lay off the molsons for a few days,,,,,,, talk about a "crazy fanatic" , well the CRAZY fits......

O.K., lets get it started. Leaf reject Brad Boyes had 11 game winning goals last season alone, including a shoot out winner against Toronto.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2008020032

http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2008020032

Do you want me to post the game summaries from the other 10 games that season? How about the game summaries from every game where Boyes had the game winning goal from every season starting from when Toronto gave up on him?

We could then move on to Steen, another Leaf reject, or how about Wellwood, another Leaf reject - I'm sure they have a few game winning goals since Toronto gave up on them.

Not just regulation, but we can add GWG's during OT and the SO as well. Do you see my point, fool?

Blues 5, Maple Leafs 4, SO
Wednesday, 04.08.2009 / 4:06 AM
Associated Press

TORONTO (AP) -With a 3-0 lead after the first period, the Toronto Maple appeared to have control of the game. Then came a bad bounce that led to a goal and a careless boarding penalty by repeat offender Ryan Hollweg, and the St. Louis Blues were suddenly back in it.

Andy McDonald and Brad Boyes scored in a shootout to give the Blues a 5-4 comeback win over the Maple Leafs on Monday.

"We came out really strong, put them down on their butts and we talked during the first intermission that we have to come out really hard and the first 5 minutes (of the second period) was important," Leafs center Nik Antropov said. "Unfortunately, we get a bad bounce, a penalty for 5 minutes, and they capitalized on that."

Manny Legace stopped Nik Antropov, allowed a goal to Nikolai Kulemin and then stopped Pavel Kubina in the shootout to win it. Vesa Toskala was beaten by both St. Louis shooters.

Hollweg, back after serving a two-game suspension for collecting three boarding penalties in a 41-game span, is likely to face more discipline for his hit on Blues rookie defenseman Alex Pietrangelo.

"There's a fine line you dance of being aggressive and then completely pulling back and we've got to work with him to find that fine line," Maple Leafs coach Ron Wilson said.

Pietrangelo may have somewhat turned into the hit, but Hollweg won't get the benefit of the doubt from officials with his track record. A fourth boarding major is expected to earn Hollweg an automatic three-game suspension from the NHL.

"It shouldn't happen in our game and it happened," Blues coach Andy Murray said. "If it was Keith Tkachuk or Alex Pietrangelo, I wouldn't feel any differently about it. It's unnecessary and certainly the league will deal with it."

Boyes banged in a rebound 33 seconds into the second period after Toskala robbed McDonald to make it a 3-1 game. After Hollweg was whistled for his penalty 1:50 later, Patrik Berglund scored on a rebound past a prone Toskala at 4:47 and Keith Tkachuk buried a feed from Paul Kariya at 5:35 to tie the score.

"You have to at least limit the damage and we didn't," Wilson said. "We allowed them right back into the game at that point."

Niklas Hagman restored a lead for the Leafs at the 14-minute mark of the second period.

The Blues tied it at 4 at 4:21 of the third period on Kariya's backhander to set up the dramatic finish in the only meeting of the season between the teams.

Early on it looked like the Thanksgiving Day crowd of 19,045, enjoying a rare afternoon game at the Air Canada Centre, would be treated to a rout from the home side.

Tomas Kaberle got the Leafs on the board a 3:22. Nikolai Kulemin scored with 5:54 left and Alexei Ponikarovsky made it 3-0 a little more than 2 minutes later.

Notes: Hollweg's return to the lineup sent Matt Stajan to the pressbox, ending the center's streak of 178 straight games played. ... Blues RW Lee Stempniak missed his second straight game after tweaking his left knee during the first period of Friday's 5-2 win over Nashville. LW Dwayne King and D Mike Weaver were also scratched. ... Leafs forward Jamal Mayers faced the Blues for the first time since his trade to Toronto in June. He spent his first 10 NHL seasons in St. Louis.

 

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[Special K]

Great article on Knuckles Nilan

Nilan battles off ice demons.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Habs facing hefty fine after playing ineligible player

It's a good bet the Montreal Canadiens will receive a significant (six figure) fine for playing an ineligible player on Tuesday night.

Ryan White was pulled from the game in the first period when the NHL noticed he was playing, but that the Canadiens had neglected to notify the league of his recall before the daily 5 p.m. deadline.

The Canadiens finished the game minus one forward. And now there is every reason to believe the Canadiens will be slapped with a hefty fine.

Had the league not noticed White's presence in the game, and had him pulled from the ice in the first period, it's quite likely the Canadiens would have had to forfeit their victory over the Ottawa Senators.

This violation is considered a serious breach and the feeling is the league will come down hard on Montreal to send a message throughout the league.

It's believed to be the first such incident since the lockout of 2004.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=301798

 

[lgna69xxx]

well, if ya cant win fair and square, CHEAT!

as bad as they have played all season, wouldnt you cheat also? their record is horribly better than their play, so we can see the desperation of why they would cheat like this..... are you surprised? i for one am NOT

It's a good bet the Montreal Canadiens will receive a significant (six figure) fine for playing an ineligible player on Tuesday night.

Ryan White was pulled from the game in the first period when the NHL noticed he was playing, but that the Canadiens had neglected to notify the league of his recall before the daily 5 p.m. deadline.

The Canadiens finished the game minus one forward. And now there is every reason to believe the Canadiens will be slapped with a hefty fine.

Had the league not noticed White's presence in the game, and had him pulled from the ice in the first period, it's quite likely the Canadiens would have had to forfeit their victory over the Ottawa Senators.

This violation is considered a serious breach and the feeling is the league will come down hard on Montreal to send a message throughout the league.

It's believed to be the first such incident since the lockout of 2004.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=301798

 

[Octavian]

as bad as they have played all season, wouldnt you cheat also? their record is horribly better than their play, so we can see the desperation of why they would cheat like this..... are you surprised? i for one am NOT

You are totally fucking ignorant if you really believe that they were trying to cheat. It was obviously just an administrative error. Shows you what really matters in this fucked up league. You can try and decapitate your own goalie and not even get a fine or reprimand, but forget to file a fucking paper and see what happens.

 

[lgna69xxx]

prove it . , what it comes down to is that the 2009/2010 habs are very poorly run, and it all comes down to gainey, the game has passed him by, time for him to retire but as a Leafs fan i hope he stays for many many more years

maybe it was a mistake and mistakes do happen, that i admit

You are totally fucking ignorant if you really believe that they were trying to cheat..

 

[Doc Holliday]

prove it . , what it comes down to is that the 2009/2010 habs are very poorly run....

Reminds me of some agencies......

 

[Special K]

Doc, guess you didn't see my post yesterday about this.

Nilan battles off ice demons.

 

[joelcairo]

what it comes down to is that the 2009/2010 habs are very poorly run

Exactly. You have franchises that are perfect models (Detroit, Jersey) and then you have those where the inmates are running the asylum (Toronto, Montreal). That's why it's no surprise that Detroit and Jersey have had such remarkable success while Mtl and TO are - and have long been (especially in TO's case) - so wretched. The only difference is that Montreal used to be the best of all...until the last 30 years or so...while TO has been almost non-stop godawful for over 4 decades.

 

[Octavian]

Good article in today's gazette about Cammalleri. If he was playing for the Leafs I'm sure the TSN gang would be raving about him.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Experts+miss+boat+Cammalleri/2332792/story.html

 

[Doc Holliday]

Good article in today's gazette about Cammalleri. If he was playing for the Leafs I'm sure the TSN gang would be raving about him.

True, just like RDS would be raving about Beauchemin & Kessel if they'd be playing for the Habs.

 

[Octavian]

True, just like RDS would be raving about Beauchemin & Kessel if they'd be playing for the Habs.

True, but what I was trying to point out is that he never gets talked about as a possible team Canada selection. Kessel will probably be the star on the American team.

Cammalleri reminds me a lot of Yvan Cournoyer, as for Kessel, I can't think of anyone to compare him to.

 

[Doc Holliday]

True, but what I was trying to point out is that he never gets talked about as a possible team Canada selection. Kessel will probably be the star on the American team.

Cammalleri reminds me a lot of Yvan Cournoyer, as for Kessel, I can't think of anyone to compare him to.

Obiously, it's your bias for the Habs that's affecting your judgement. Cammalleri looks like a superstar on the Habs since they talent level is extremely poor on that team. Their great goaltending saves them game in & game out & if it wasn't for their goaltending, they'd likely be battling it out with Carolina for last place.

Cammalleri is a 2nd line player on most of the top 15 teams in the NHL. He's got no business being invited to Team Canada's camp. He's also very one-dimensional, which would render him useless on Team Canada since the top 2-3 lines are already filled with some of the league's top scorers.

I'm not saying he's a bad player. He's not. But playing on such a poor team like Montreal makes him look much better than he is & increases his value to that sad-sack team.

 

[lgna69xxx]

man, you have said a mouthfull there Doc....... Price is the ONLY reason the Leafs have not passed the Scabs yet....... wonder where he will end up next season when the habs cant afford to sign him?

Obiously, it's your bias for the Habs that's affecting your brain. Cammalleri looks like a superstar on the Habs since they talent level is extremely poor on that team. Their great goaltending saves them game in & game out & if it wasn't for their goaltending, they'd likely be battling it out with Carolina for last place.

.

 

[joelcairo]

Obiously, it's your bias for the Habs that's affecting your judgement. Their great goaltending saves them game in & game out & if it wasn't for their goaltending, they'd likely be battling it out with Carolina for last place.

Hmmm. I thought there was another team "battling it out with Carolina for last place" most of this season. Now who was that other team?