The vaccine passport (QR code), a new debate.

[Chouin95]

COUP D’ÉCLAT Le gouvernement fait dans son caleçon et repousse d’un mois la nébuleuse date prévue pour la vaccination forcée des travailleurs de la santé.

C’est aberrant voir mesquin la façon que le gouvernement joue avec les émotions et le porte-feuille des travailleurs/travailleuses en faisant du chantage et en voulant empêcher ces gens de gagner leurs vies honorablement.

Cela dit ÉNORME RESPECT aux 22000+ travailleurs de la santé qui n’embarquent pas dans le délire sanitaire des gouvernements, vous êtes en train de faire comprendre aux décideurs la vraie signification du mot ‘’essentiel’’.

 

[Chouin95]

The death rate in the US went up 18% in 2020 over 2019. While not all Covid related, Covid took a big chunk of it. Age expectancy took a drop for the first time in many many years.

The only reason we didn't see the trend in Canada was severe lockdowns and restrictions, which I am sure you supported fully......ya... that's it....

So you’re telling me that in the midst of a PANdemic in Canada we kept the same trend in the number of total deaths because of things such as masks, curfews and arrows on the floor.

That’s amazing we must really have got it right this time.

In reality if we would have been in a pandemic that number of total deaths would have raised exponentially.

 

[gallantca]

So you’re telling me that in the midst of a PANdemic in Canada we kept the same trend in the number of total deaths because of things such as masks, curfews and arrows on the floor.

That’s amazing we must really have got it right this time.

In reality if we would have been in a pandemic that number of total deaths would have raised exponentially.

There were an estimated 309,912 deaths in Canada in 2020. This is 16,333 more deaths than what would have been expected if there were no pandemic.

That is 5%, US was 18%, Canada's number could have been much higher without the restrictions imposed. Ask Brasil.

Your statement : "The real meaningful data is the total number of deaths in Canada by year from 2010 to 2021 and it shows a steady line with one anomaly being the first two months of the scam (march/april 2020) " it is simply wrong.

The argument you make is that "people that die with Covid not of Covid". Your proof is supposedly net deaths did not raise, which they did.

 

[Oberstdorf]

Pandemic will end in Québec, how’s that possible. Oh yea right it’s not a pandemic that’s why.

If its not a Pandemic than I am SpiderMan. Please i see so many stupid post like that. Check your facts and get vaccinated. If you don't stop complaining about the Vaccine Passport.

 

[Chouin95]

If its not a Pandemic than I am SpiderMan. Please i see so many stupid post like that. Check your facts and get vaccinated. If you don't stop complaining about the Vaccine Passport.

This would make me Tony Stark, I’m always gonna be there to school you Peter.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Lego the dictator best take notes from Ontario. Starting January 2022 in Ontario vaccine passports will no longer be required and starting March 2022 masks will no longer be required. Take notes Lego and remove all these ridiculous restrictions. End it immediately. The economy took enough damage things got to get rolling now.

Ontario reveals plan to lift all COVID-19 restrictions by March next year

The Ontario government has unveiled its long awaited plan to slowly lift public health restrictions as the COVID-19 situation in the province continues to level off.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

 

[Like_It_Hot]

Ontario. Starting January 2022 in Ontario vaccine passports will no longer be required and starting March 2022 masks will no longer be required.

That is your interpretation... in fact, the truth is:
"At a Friday news conference in Toronto with Premier Doug Ford, Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Keiran Moore and Minister of Health Christine Elliott, it was announced that the removal of the measures will take place "slowly and incrementally" over the next six months, guided by ongoing monitoring of key public health indicators. Those indicators include: whether any new COVID-19 variants arise, how many people are in hospital and ICU with the illness, and if the province once again sees a rapid increase in transmission of the disease." Everybody should know the difference between a plan and what will be.

This is almost the same as was already announced by PM Legault.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-covid-exit-roadmap-reopen-capacity-limits-lifted-1.6220653

 

[gallantca]

Everybody should know the difference between a plan and what will be.

In an election year Ford, as he has done all along, will go with public opinion. My guess he will relax rules on people with vaccine passports first. For example, if he was in Quebec, he will allowing dancing in bars before he allows unvaccinated in bars.

I called it. They started talking relaxing rules as soon as boner got his shot.

 

[bonerland citizen]

Is QR app just the beginning?
Maybe this is fake or a plant for conspiracy theorist.
It is very disturbing if true.
It is forward looking into the future but the technology is now here.
Go to strip club too much=more vax???

"Patent and trademark attorneys Dr. Gal Ehrlich and Maier Fenster of Ehrlich & Fenster recently had a US patent approved for a technology that aims to surveil people via their digital activity, give them a score that defines “the potential level of super-spreading activity of each individual,” and then vaccinate people based on this score."

The patent

Could this be the future of strip clubs??


it also suggests collecting highly specific personal information via these sources such as:

• Precise location data
• The length of time people spend at the locations they visit
• The ventilation rate of the places people visit
• Images of people looking at the screen of their mobile phone
• Sounds from the microphones in personal devices
• Facial recognition data

 

[bonerland citizen]

They started talking relaxing rules as soon as boner got his shot.

Yea I got my first shot. I did not do it for health nor for "The social good"

Took the cookie for the nookie

 

[Like_It_Hot]

Any reason to get the vaccine is a good move! Congrats!

 

[sene5hos]

We couldn't find that Web page (Error 404) - Travel.gc.ca

Government of Canada's official one-stop-shop for comprehensive international travel information.

travel.gc.ca

Find out if you're ready to board.

To board your flight or train, if you are 12 years of age plus four months, or older, you must:

be fully vaccinated with accepted vaccines
be ready at any point in your journey to show your official proof of vaccination
have received at least 2 doses of an accepted COVID-19 vaccine or a mix of 2 accepted vaccines
have received your second dose at least 14 full days prior to the day you travel
have no signs or symptoms of COVID-19
wear a mask

COVID-19 tests: if you qualify as fully vaccinated, a COVID-19 test is not needed to board a flight or train unless you are flying to a country that requires it. If you don't qualify as fully vaccinated, get a valid molecular test.

 

[Halloween Mike]

I was hoping this QR code crap would be lifted in late January or early Febuary as they were supose to remove the emergency state when they done vaccinating kids (...) but with the new transformers unicron... i mean "Omicron" guess we can give this goodbye. Its funny, everytime we think we are at the end of the tunnel, its just another train and it smash us full force to bring us back to the beginning. As we say in french... C'est presque comme si s'etait arrenger avec le gars des vues....

 

[CLOUD 500]

^^^^^
Lol It will never end due to society bowing down to the government and many Liberal/Socialist lovers, [...]. It will end when society stops complying. The idea of freedom scares them, they want government to take care of them.

 

[sene5hos]

I was hoping this QR code crap would be lifted in late January or early Febuary as they were supose to remove the emergency state when they done vaccinating kids (...) but with the new transformers unicron... i mean "Omicron" guess we can give this goodbye. Its funny, everytime we think we are at the end of the tunnel, its just another train and it smash us full force to bring us back to the beginning. As we say in french... C'est presque comme si s'etait arrenger avec le gars des vues....

HM that's what happens with viruses, they always replicate and sometimes they don't replicate properly and mutate.

Il n'y a absolument rien d'arranger avec le gars des vues, c'est la vie.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Im well aware of how viruses work, but i was speaking of the fear mongering by the media and govs. They cultivate it. As soon as we think we may finally catch a break, boom they start the machine again to keep it alive. Anybody with 2 brain cells know winter is the flu/covid season and cases will rise and everything. Its not rocket science, yet they throw it in full force in the medias to make sure peoples still fear big time and that they can keep their grip on the population. I wouldn't be surprised if curfew would be back at some point during winter. They will use the excuse that vaccination is not strong enough against new variant, that we must wait on the third shot and it must be the new version of the vaccine for new variant and blablabla and therefore the convanxious will swallow everything and it will pass like a knife in butter again. No uprising by population.

It really sadden me.

 

[wetnose]

Im well aware of how viruses work, but i was speaking of the fear mongering by the media and govs. They cultivate it. As soon as we think we may finally catch a break, boom they start the machine again to keep it alive. Anybody with 2 brain cells know winter is the flu/covid season and cases will rise and everything. Its not rocket science, yet they throw it in full force in the medias to make sure peoples still fear big time and that they can keep their grip on the population.

Lol, I think you're giving the big bad government WAAAYYY too much credit.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Lol, I think you're giving the big bad government WAAAYYY too much credit.

I don't think so. What they got right now is ideal for them. A control like they never had before. "Emergency State" let them rules pretty much how they want and having identity controls everytime you go in a bar or restaurant or movie theatre etc is a form of control we never saw of our lifetime. I know this is linked to what peoples call "conspiracy theory" and i don't want to advance myself too much in a slippery territory but i find very very disturbing that this thing is there for so long (not just for 1 month to control an outbreak for instance) without any official end date and everything. Maybe its something governements always wanted but couldn't justify before...


Honestly even since the start of Covid my taughts were always "no way peoples will accept this". Its been the case for masks everywhere, curfew and house restrictions. Yet i was baffled to see peoples mostly (in majority) accepted it. I know there is tons and tons of peoples who did not respect the measures entirely, and they were just not caught, but im astonished that not much peoples protested in the streets or yelled their disdain on social medias...

 

[gallantca]

I don't think so. What they got right now is ideal for them. A control like they never had before. "Emergency State" let them rules pretty much how they want and having identity controls everytime you go in a bar or restaurant or movie theatre etc is a form of control we never saw of our lifetime. I know this is linked to what peoples call "conspiracy theory" and i don't want to advance myself too much in a slippery territory but i find very very disturbing that this thing is there for so long (not just for 1 month to control an outbreak for instance) without any official end date and everything. Maybe its something governements always wanted but couldn't justify before...


Honestly even since the start of Covid my taughts were always "no way peoples will accept this". Its been the case for masks everywhere, curfew and house restrictions. Yet i was baffled to see peoples mostly (in majority) accepted it. I know there is tons and tons of peoples who did not respect the measures entirely, and they were just not caught, but im astonished that not much peoples protested in the streets or yelled their disdain on social medias...

Maybe people are a lot smarter than you give them credit for
Maybe people see the entire world (no exceptions) stuck with the same problem and thing "maybe it's not just Legault"
Maybe people look at what we consider "knowledgeable" on the subject , the doctors, all 97.5% of them, saying the measures we are taking are correct.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Maybe people are a lot smarter than you give them credit for.
Maybe people look at what we consider "knowledgeable" on the subject , the doctors, all 97.5% of them, saying the measures we are taking are correct.

People are naive and dumb. See in history how they voted for dictators like Hitler and Stalin. Majority does not mean right, majority just means conformist.

Yes doctors being funded by the government usually will spread government propaganda. Reminds you of something? Maoism. All doctors who spoke against the government's agenda were silenced.