To all the SP/SW/SB/Porn Star - What sort of ideal clients you would like to see....?

[Fradi]

Not the first time lol.
Did you honestly think though that many would voice their opinion, there is really nothing for them to be gained by doing that and most is predictable and has been said in various threads before.
Too bad it developed like this it was not my intention.
It will probably be removed by the mods.
btw life has improved a great deal since July , riskier but better. lol.

 

[CoolSin000]

@Fradi You have the choice not to follow "my advice". You have the choice to believe that it is just me who perhaps exaggerates ...
But I say out loud what the majority of girls think but don't dare to say.
@CoolSin000 asked "What sort of ideal clients you would like to see, and how should we behaviour in front of you? What sort of bad behaviour you condemn, so that they won't be put into black/blocklist."
I answered honestly.
Y'all feel free to talk about your expectations of women (which are often much higher than the one I have listed).
We only ask for the minimum to be able to offer you the best of ourselves.

First of all, @Luna, thank you for taking the time to read, answer the topic from this forum, and save this topic! haha

Honestly, for me, it was trial and errors to figure out how to be a gentleman in front of an SP. Although, I have Discrete connection at my disposal - I didn't get a lot of help or useful advice on, "how to interact with an SP". Unlike MERB.CC, there are a lot of members haha

Well, this topic is very subjective - every SP has different preference and expectation. So, I don't except that all the novice/newbies will have a list of "rules" that will fit every SP's list of requirements - than again, even if the "rules" does exist, and met all the SP's expectation - would the new and old hobbyist follow them?

Well, there is two side of the coin regarding @Fradi and Luna 's expectations. Yes, Fraid if you did hired an SP for specific service, and she failed to meet your expectation - you could always find another SP (that is able to provide emotional connection et cetera). But than again, if you rehired an SP that doesn't feel comfortable performing those services, and you force the situation - it's not going to make you any happier. If you understand what I meant?

The client(s) must be able to convey their expectation to their respectful SP, whereas the SP must be honest with their client(s) about whether or not they can fulfil the service. If not, SP won't get a lot of referrals or regular customers and there is a possibilities they get a bad review. Also, seeing an SP once doesn't give you a lot time to develop the rapport nor the opportunity for the SP to understand your needs. Also, don't expect one SP to be able to perform all your expectation - it's like asking your wife/gf/SO/lover to be able to perform everything. Overall, "Communication" and "honesty" is the "key".

As for me, I prefer to be clean. I like taking shower, cut my nails, rinse my mouth, and wash my hands. I hate being dirty because if I'm not clean therefore I'm disrespecting myself; which I prefer my SP to have the same cleanliness because I like my variety of sexual services. Indeed, if I knew that an SP doesn't offer/provide BBBJ - I'm not going to force her to perform the service because I knew what I was getting into. Cause I choose the SP!

However, if the SP lied to me that bbbj was part of the package but the truth is, it wasn't, then I have problem with the SP's integrity; which I won't see her again in the future and write a review about her at MERB/TERB/PERB.CC.


Cheers!

 

[Fradi]

Coolsin,
Thanks for the advice but I think I have it covered.
I am quite happy with the ladies I “hire“ although I would use different terminology.
I have been seeing them for quite sometime, they are exactly who I envisioned, totally gorgeous, intelligent and kind women who go out of their way to make the time we spend together enjoyable for me. Hopefully they don’t mind spending the time with me.
To put it in terms that everybody can understand perfectly they meet all my expectations and are worth every penny I spend on them .
No regrets what so ever, but yes sometimes I question why I see escorts.

 

[CoolSin000]

Coolsin,
Thanks for the advice but I think I have it covered.
I am quite happy with the ladies I “hire“ although I would use different terminology.
I have been seeing them for quite sometime, they are exactly who I envisioned, totally gorgeous, intelligent and kind women who go out of their way to make the time we spend together enjoyable for me. Hopefully they don’t mind spending the time with me.
To put it in terms that everybody can understand perfectly they meet all my expectations and are worth every penny I spend on them .
No regrets what so ever, but yes sometimes I question why I see escorts.

I'm happy for buddy. If only I could switch place with you - where I can see all those gorgeous sp haha

 

[Fradi]

Luckily Montreal has many gorgeous women both civilian and SP it is not really a problem to find what you are looking for.
We are very lucky to be living here.

 

[CoolSin000]

Luckily Montreal has many gorgeous women both civilian and SP it is not really a problem to find what you are looking for.
We are very lucky to be living here.

Unfortunately, I'm not from Montreal. I'm actually from Northern Ontario - it's about 7-8 hrs drive from Montreal.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Self pity. Naw not at all.
I just happen to think much more of the ladies I see than wanting to be sure I can fuck like a rabbit and get 4 SOG in an hour.

WTF!?!?

U and Willis must be doing crazy cardio

 

[Anna Bijou]

What you have listed is all things that every man should know and not have to be reminded of.

There is no such thing in this business. When I realized there are men who have made it to their 40's, 40's, 60's or whatever without acquiring the skills to wash their ass, i knew that what I consider 'should know' means nothing to another. Mind boggling. Overall I tend not to judge but I have to be honest, when it's about basic hygiene or courtesy.. I judge.

I'm not in the business anymore but I still have an obsession about my own hygiene. No more daty after a night out. Sorry hun, I have to shower first. Wouldn't be caught dead otherwise. Men in my personal life get a bit offended by my requests sometimes. Go wash yer balls! Lol I'm kidding. But I'm a bit excessive about it. You know, the fear of some reviews popping up about foul smelling pussy.. Was my biggest fear. That doesn't leave you apparently.




Beyond hygiene and respect, what I appreciated most of all was an easy going attitude. Like, not laser focused on following a script, open to spontaneity. I don't know, kind open minded person. With this attitude, you may not get what you expected but might enjoy what you do get even more. Relax, laugh a little.

 

[sene5hos]

Beyond hygiene and respect, what I appreciated most of all was an easy going attitude. Like, not laser focused on following a script, open to spontaneity. I don't know, kind open minded person. With this attitude, you may not get what you expected but might enjoy what you do get even more. Relax, laugh a little.

First of all, I agree with Fradi, because having worked in the downtown, I have seen that the women of Montreal are superb, elegant and sexy.

Yes Miss Bijou, I imagine a client in a good mood and following the flow, and if he has a good sense of humor the session will go very well.

 

[Anna Bijou]

My side of the story is that if they knew the incalculable amount of shit stains I saw on my bedsheets

Thanks for the flashback Hanna. I'd almost forgotten. Lol

Side note, this happened once in the client's hotel bed. I can't imagine he didn't notice it but he didn't act like he did. I covered it discretely but I was genuinely curious about what he thought of it after I left and he had to have noticed. Did he casually leave it like that for house keeping when he checked out. Well, I'm sure they've seen worse. Hopefully it was a lesson to him lol

I just thought, my face is not going to be spending any more time down there and that's when YMMV.





There's also the 'Oh, no thanks. I've already showered this morning."
Um, it's 8pm and 35°c 100°c humidex. You might as well have showered last week.

I sound bitchy but I just can't imagine feeling good about getting intimate with anyone without being freshly showered. Ever. I've said that already, haven't I

 

[sene5hos]

Side note, this happened once in the client's hotel bed. I can't imagine he didn't notice it but he didn't act like he did. I covered it discretely but I was genuinely curious about what he thought of it after I left and he had to have noticed. Did he casually leave it like that for house keeping when he checked out. Well, I'm sure they've seen worse. Hopefully it was a lesson to him lol

There's also the 'Oh, no thanks. I've already showered this morning."
Um, it's 8pm and 35°c 100°c humidex. You might as well have showered last week.

I can't believe it gets worse than this. For fantastic encounters, there are shitty encounters. (that's the case to say).

This one too is really disgusting. "I've already showered this morning" but Buddy you smell of sweat, your smell of perspiration fills the room, all this to save 4-5 minutes which in the end will make you lose about thirty (at least I hope).

 

[chowzilla]

yarrrk.... nasty scumbags.

seriously, I think there's a fetish going on for having sex with beautiful woman while being filthy.. I'm assuming they're all degenerates.
is this why rates are going up? lol

 

[sene5hos]

is this why rates are going up? lol

This is for sure part of the equation.

If we ask the SPs who advertise themselves on other platforms, they'll tell you that they've all encountered messy guys, and oral hygiene was the biggest issue.

I think, or at least I sincerely hope, that the girls who advertise themselves on this site meet less messy guys.

 

[Fradi]

There is no excuse for not being clean or taking a shower before being intimate.
It doesn’t matter that you took a shower right before you left and put clean clothes on, take another when you arrive at her incall that way it puts her at ease and she doesn’t have to wonder.
I don’t believe how guys can be so stupid and insensitive.

 

[Anna Bijou]

There is no excuse for not being clean or taking a shower before being intimate.
It doesn’t matter that you took a shower right before you left and put clean clothes on, take another when you arrive at her incall that way it puts her at ease and she doesn’t have to wonder.
I don’t believe how guys can be so stupid and insensitive.

The reasons behind this have always really puzzled me. Like, wouldn't you, or anyone in a situation like this, want to give yourselves the best possible chance of having a great time and enjoying amazing service? It seems so obvious. Some people are just not ever taught proper hygiene. It doesn't matter what anyone tells them, they don't get it or don't care. Or they think we're talking about other people, not them. In the end, though, you're always going to have better service if you're clean. Duh.

I had a nutty teacher (nutty not naughty lol) in high school who habitually overshared. I remember one of her long rants about personal issues being about her husbands poor hygiene. I mean, the lady had been trying to get it through his thick head for decades and never got anywhere.

So I think, well, at least it's just an hour, not until death do us part haha

 

[Anna Bijou]

Here is my biggest question from threads like this. Is it better to just talk and communicate a lot during the session, especially the first one? I have never really liked that, but maybe that is the best answer.

Yes! In a respectful manner but yes communication is key. You know, a lot of information is in body language. Paying attention to your partner's reaction to certain things, various pressure, speed, whatever. I find it so challenging when my partner is not expressive at all. It's not like one can spend the entire session asking is this ok, do you prefer if I do a b c or d. A combo perhaps? It's normal not to guess everything a first time partner likes and how.


I think if there are specific things you know you like, don't like or would like to try, say it. If you tend to prefer a kind of mood, or if you like to take charge, what it is, say it. Not like you're giving orders (well unless that's the agreement lol).

If you are worried about popping too fast with BJ, tell her. If you want to try your luck more than once (and you can usually do it, not just hoping while knowing it's not going to happen)

A lot of men (women, too, I suppose) cannot communicate what they like because they're unable to identify it. Of course no one can detail everything they've enjoyed having done to them and specifically how. But things like, "I prefer slow and soft oral because it's too sensitive otherwise", or "I like teeth so don't be shy". Lol How is a first time partner supposed to guess between such different preferences?




(I think I should write a guide. Lol)

I hate the way guys take all these notes and assume that all these mysterious women are the same just because one lady says something. They will carefully write down that women don’t like going vaginally fingered and dislike anal play.

Well that is not accurate for a great number of women.

All of these things depend on so many variables. Such as the woman's personal preference, her comfort level, the day of the week, possibly also time of day, the mood, her partner, her partner's technique, his timing, his personal style.

Not every client kisses the same, not ever fingers the same. Does he have nails? Does he 'accidentally' bite, does he drool into your mouth excessively It's hard to make a list when you don't know what you are signing up for!

That's one thing that is tough about trying to get one woman to 'teach' you how to do 'x' 'y' 'z'. She can 'teach' you exactly how to please her but if you try the same 'script' with the next woman like a planned routine, you're quite possibly going to be confused that she may not respond the same.


Every person has their own personal preferences based on their style. The BJ example is a perfect example of personal style. If Jodie gives the most out of this world slow, soft, sloppy BJ and Sam loves it so much he tells his buddies Jodie is the world's best BJ provider. So Tom decides he wants the world's best bj and goes to Jodie. Thing is, Tom hates slow bj. He likes gagging, deep throat and fast pumping.

Does that mean Jodie doesn't give the world's best bj for a style that is specific and appeals to certain men whose preference is for this style. This is why communication is crucial. And if bj is super important to you, then communicate what you like and ask the lady if she's comfortable with it.




My personal advice is to always start slowly and pay close attention to the reactions and body language of your partner. Use that to guide you to finding what she/he likes and have fun. Be creative, try whatever you think might be good and adjust based on response. Lol there is no perfect formula.

 

[bamjay]

Beyond hygiene and respect, what I appreciated most of all was an easy going attitude.

If all things other than appearance would be the same, would you rather meet the guy on the left or the guy on the right?
Does the guy on the left make panties wet? The guy on the right? Both of them? None of them?

Well, in this particular case it's actually the same guy on both pictures, just a before/after, but you get the idea.

I'm wondering if it makes any difference at all?

Or is it all business, in, out, done, no YMMV, same service for everybody, regardless of what a client looks like as long as they're a paying customer?

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[chowzilla]

not really a fair comparison
I think we established that SPs prefer older clients in another thread, and the "older" guy on the right is RIPPED, soooooo..... i think Jimmy on the left never had a chance.

 

[Anna Bijou]

If all things other than appearance would be the same, would you rather meet the guy on the left or the guy on the right?
Does the guy on the left make panties wet? The guy on the right? Both of them? None of them?

Well, in this particular case it's actually the same guy on both pictures, just a before/after, but you get the idea.

I'm wondering if it makes any difference at all?

Or is it all business, in, out, done, no YMMV, same service for everybody, regardless of what a client looks like as long as they're a paying customer?

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I'm assuming you're asking about my preference in a SP/Client situation, right?

They're both good physically looking. Personally I prefer the 'before' body. I'm not big on exaggerated (Imo) gym muscles. Other than that, Im neutral about it because a picture does not give me much to go with.


I don't know if this is the same for everyone. At the basic level, men often have a more defined, rigid type of what they are looking for/attracted to. The physical aspect is a very important part, the rest comes after. Women, to a lesser degree also have a physical type that they look for in a men.

From the time I started dating, I never developed a specific 'type'. I have certain preferences but there is no real type (except maybe, asshole-type I'm kidding). I've always been aware that it was my interactions with someone that determined how good looking or not they appeared to me. I have looked at someone and thought they were not attractive, and after speaking to them for sometime, ending up thinking they were freaking hot from then on.

Anyway all This long explanation to say that when meeting a client, I am not judging his looks beyond the very basic. And that the interaction is what is going to determine if the attraction is there. Makes sense?

 

[bamjay]

That was very refreshing to read and is quite an interesting perspective. You sound like a very mature woman.

I’m mostly curious about this because I kind of have a before/after, although I’m not super ripped right now because of the last couple of months... work in progress. But anyway, I noticed a huge, gigantic, massive difference in how people are reacting to me after compared to before, both men and women. But I don’t have that experience with SPs specifically, because I already was in shape when I first started seeing them. So I don’t know from first-hand experience if it makes any difference at all with them.