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Jazzman1218

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You are right there is no need to persue this.
You have a one track mind far removed from reality with no objectivity whatsoever.
Keep on believing in your scumbag political heroes lol.
We all undergo changes as we age that is true but we are not all the President of the most powerful country in the world and we are definitely not all lying scumbag politicians we just keep electing them lol.
If Biden was mentally capable he would still be running for President or did that little detail escape you.
Okay, whatever. And I'm the one with the one track mind.
 

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I do not agree with this. I have a close relative who was diagnosed with Lewy Body Dementia. The entire family noticed changes, not just in his cognitive abilities, but also in his behavior patterns, long before he was formally diagnosed. And these changes went beyond "oh he is getting old." One of the more complex human skills, in terms of applying cognitive ability to it, is driving a car. While simple for the normal functioning human, you begin to notice it with the person whose cognitive abilities have declined due to dementia. One of the biggest clues is forgetting to make turns down roads you have turned down for 50 or more years in a town you have lived in your entire adult life. Another behavioral change was increased paranoia. These are not symptoms you observe in others who are just aging in a normal fashion. The other thing is that the demented person doesn't recognize the loss of that skill. They are oblivious to it.

I observed in Biden many of the things as with the family member. The incoherence. The starting of sentences and inability to complete them in a lucid fashion. My relative has now deteriorated to the point where he starts a sentence, but is unable to finish it and just trails off. I think the thought is forgotten as soon as the first two words come out of his mouth, never to return. It's very sad, as this relative was, in his day, a person of immense cognitive ability and holder of a Ph.D. It's now gone.

Make no mistake. There was a coverup on Biden's dementia. It was a great lie, and a person was used as a puppet for a long period of time. This was a tremendous deception that, while recognized by many citizens, was nonetheless very heinous. It shouldn't have happened and should not be allowed. It should have triggered a congressional investigation.
While it's true that close family members are usually the first to identity behavior suggestive of dementia, the diagnosis requires an evaluation by a neurologist.

You are neither a close family member of Biden or a neurologist, so your opinion is just that - a belief you have formed not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Can we please get back to the presidential candidates? Biden is not on the ballot.
 

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Can we please get back to the presidential candidates? Biden is not on the ballot.
No he is not but you are the one that keeps bringing up lies and fact checking.
Kamala definitely lied about Biden for a very long period of time like so many other things. Wonder when she is going to change her mind on this like everything else she flip flops on.
You actually believe that the Democrats would have sent Biden to a neurologist and published the real results lol. No instead they got rid of him and replaced him with a salad blabbing cackling fool.
 
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No he is not but you are the one that keeps bringing up lies and fact checking.
Kamala definitely lied about Biden for a very long period of time like so many other things. Wonder when she is going to change her mind on this like everything else she flip flops on.
You actually believe that the Democrats would have sent Biden to a neurologist and published the real results lol. No instead they got rid of him and replaced him with a salad blabbing cackling fool.

Once again that's your opinion, and that's all it is. You said, and are still saying, that Harris lied about Biden. All I have asked you to do is prove it. I'll give you the last word about how she lied ( without proof ) so we can move on to another topic.
 

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Once again that's your opinion, and that's all it is. You said, and are still saying, that Harris lied about Biden. All I have asked you to do is prove it. I'll give you the last word about how she lied ( without proof ) so we can move on to another topic.
You are really unbelievable.
She continually said that Biden is mentally fit and capable to handle the Presidency.
Now she has without flinching taken part in removing him because she nor the rest of the puppet masters could no longer hide his mental decline.
How anyone can be in such denial is beyond comprehension.
Proof lol , yes Biden is likely to submit to an independent neurological examination and have it published or witnessed as it is being done.

What puzzles me is why there isn’t an outcry about who was running the country for the last year or two and why there isn’t a congressional investigation of the lies and how the Democrats have misled the people.


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What puzzles me is why there isn’t an outcry about who was running the country for the last year or two and why there isn’t a congressional investigation of the lies and how the Democrats have misled the people.
This raises a very interesting issue which in my mind should be openly discussed and not pushed aside. Even mandatory driver retesting of elderly citizens is a political hot potato, between people who are losing their eyesight and those losing their cognitive abilities to operate a motorized vehicle. It's one thing when we have some dangerous people on the road, and quite another when we have one leading an entire nation.

Of course Biden isn't going to submit to an MRI on his brain or neuropsychological examination unless he is compelled to do so. There are forensic geriatric psychiatrists who, if given sufficient medical records and allowed to test the subject, can time stamp the cognitive loss. This should be done on Biden and why he was not removed from consideration sooner ought to be investigated with vigor. He shouldn't have had to fail dramatically on national TV before anything was done. Why was this allowed to happen?
 

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This raises a very interesting issue which in my mind should be openly discussed and not pushed aside. Even mandatory driver retesting of elderly citizens is a political hot potato, between people who are losing their eyesight and those losing their cognitive abilities to operate a motorized vehicle. It's one thing when we have some dangerous people on the road, and quite another when we have one leading an entire nation.

Of course Biden isn't going to submit to an MRI on his brain or neuropsychological examination unless he is compelled to do so. There are forensic geriatric psychiatrists who, if given sufficient medical records and allowed to test the subject, can time stamp the cognitive loss. This should be done on Biden and why he was not removed from consideration sooner ought to be investigated with vigor. He shouldn't have had to fail dramatically on national TV before anything was done. Why was this allowed to happen?
Why? Power, money, control. ego.
Lies, lies, lies, and more lies.
Guess all the computers and media people were occupied fact checking Trump.
 

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This raises a very interesting issue which in my mind should be openly discussed and not pushed aside. Even mandatory driver retesting of elderly citizens is a political hot potato, between people who are losing their eyesight and those losing their cognitive abilities to operate a motorized vehicle. It's one thing when we have some dangerous people on the road, and quite another when we have one leading an entire nation.

Of course Biden isn't going to submit to an MRI on his brain or neuropsychological examination unless he is compelled to do so. There are forensic geriatric psychiatrists who, if given sufficient medical records and allowed to test the subject, can time stamp the cognitive loss. This should be done on Biden and why he was not removed from consideration sooner ought to be investigated with vigor. He shouldn't have had to fail dramatically on national TV before anything was done. Why was this allowed to happen?
Biden is not on the ballot but trump is. If anyone should have a neuro-psych evaluation it's trump. Have you seen a trump rally? The man appears seriously unhinged.
 

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Biden is not on the ballot but trump is. If anyone should have a neuro-psych evaluation it's trump. Have you seen a trump rally? The man appears seriously unhinged.
Biden is not on the ballot but the lying scumbag Kamala who hid the truth about his condition is.
Back to Trump bashing lol.
If Trump wins I guess we will be in for at least 4 years of non stop TDS.
Then again he doesn’t need to be President the Trump bashing was limitless even for the 4 years that he was off playing golf lol.
What would Democrats do without him who would they blame for their fuck ups then.
 
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Biden is not on the ballot but trump is. If anyone should have a neuro-psych evaluation it's trump. Have you seen a trump rally? The man appears seriously unhinged.

Am I the only one to notice that when I see Trump supporters most if not all of them are white and old.
Earlier this week a Qubec reporter was in Florida speaking with Americans from Cuban origins.
They were the same family, the youngers were supporting Harris and their grand father who seemed to be between 90 and 100 years old supported Trump !
 
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You are being ridiculous.and you know it.
Biden was stumbling and bumbling for over a year, everyone noticed it except for you.
Was Biden’s total decline during the debate and him being forced out ( yeah he resigned lol) not enough proof for you or do you need different lenses.
Bringing up a dead man like Reagan is something that is of any relevance especially to me. I am the one that acknowledges that all politicians that rise to the top are lying scumbags regardless what colours they represent..
As far as having a beer with any of them, no I could never wash the taste out of my mouth after.
Biden is not on the ballot. Your opinions about him belong on another thread.
 
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Biden is not on the ballot. Your opinions about him belong on another thread.
No Kamala’s lies belong in this thread lol.
It is kind of relevant when a running Presidential candidate lies when she is the acting VP to protect a President who’s mental capacity has declined beyond being fit to govern and came clearly to light on national TV. We are talking about a potential President after all and the extent she will go to deceive the public.
Now you can get back to your usual TDS ritual I think I have explained this quite clearly a number of times even if you don’t want to understand but I will not keep repeating it like the 4 years of TDS .
 
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Am I the only one to notice that when I see Trump supporters most if not all of them are white and old.
Earlier this week a Qubec reporter was in Florida speaking with Americans from Cuban origins.
They were the same family, the youngers were supporting Harris and their grand father who seemed to be between 90 and 100 years old supported Trump !
Perhaps older men have been around a bit longer and they can spot a lying salad babbling cackling fool.
Unfortunately Trump is not much better but it always comes down to a choice between the lesser of 2 evils and in this case even a crooked egotistical deplorable human being like Trump may just be the better choice.
How unfortunate is that for the American voters.
 

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No Kamala’s lies belong in this thread lol.
It is kind of relevant when a running Presidential candidate lies when she is the acting VP to protect a President who’s mental capacity has declined beyond being fit to govern and came clearly to light on national TV. We are talking about a potential President after all and the extent she will go to deceive the public.
Now you can get back to your usual TDS ritual I think I have explained this quite clearly a number of times even if you don’t want to understand but I will not keep repeating it like the 4 years of TDS .
I don't concede any of your premise, but even if true, trump lies about everything. He deceives us every time he opens his mouth, yet somehow that doesn't bother you as much.
 
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I don't concede any of your premise, but even if true, trump lies about everything. He deceives us every time he opens his mouth, yet somehow that doesn't bother you as much.
I guess you misinterpreted crooked egotistical deplorable human being as a compliment.
Yes it bothers me even if I live in Canada because the rest of the world will have to live with one of these choices neither of which will be a bonus to anyone.
The difference is that I can look at both of these poor choices objectively because I am not blinded by political prejudice as I am neither a Democrat or Republican and I don’t get to vote anyway.
 
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Yes it bothers me even if I live in Canada because the rest of the world will have to live with one of these choices neither of which will be a bonus to anyone.
You are right about this. They are both horrible choices and both are aggressively horrible. I had thought Biden-Trump in 2020 were the worst 2 main choices for President in any one election in United States history, but sadly, we have managed to "top" it (or bottom out) with Trump-Harris. We have hit rock bottom with Presidential candidates- we hope.
 

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Yesterday I think in a townall, Trump gave an answer that showed almost with certainty that he approved the 2021 Jan 6th insurrection.
And even participated in it. In his answer about the insurrection, he spoke as the insurrectionnists as we and the police officers that protected the Congress as they. He told that we didn't have firearms and they had.
Another proof for Jack Smith accusations !
...plus this MAGA IDIOT said/ Univision town hall wednesday.....JAN 6 was a ''day of love''...wow.... what a disgusting character....
 

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I guess you misinterpreted crooked egotistical deplorable human being as a compliment.
Yes it bothers me even if I live in Canada because the rest of the world will have to live with one of these choices neither of which will be a bonus to anyone.
The difference is that I can look at both of these poor choices objectively because I am not blinded by political prejudice as I am neither a Democrat or Republican and I don’t get to vote anyway.
You may not be either a Democrat or a Republican, but your posts suggest you are anything but objective.
 
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Perhaps older men have been around a bit longer and they can spot a lying salad babbling cackling fool.
Unfortunately Trump is not much better but it always comes down to a choice between the lesser of 2 evils and in this case even a crooked egotistical deplorable human being like Trump may just be the better choice.
How unfortunate is that for the American voters.

Thank you for the compliment, I myself am an older man, that is why perhaps I have good judgment on politiciants !
 
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