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Jazzman1218

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I do give Harris credit for allowing herself to be grilled, but the truth is she didn't agree to this until the polls tightened up like on her like a monkey wrench. Some might view it as a panicked move
It's not a "panicked move" at all. Rather it shows her strength and confidence to be interviewed on Fox while trump is afraid to be on 60 Minutes, attend another debate.etc. She may not convince a single Fox viewer to vote for her, but she may cause some viewers to question the trump facade promulgated by Fox. Maybe some will investigate and learn about the divisive, hateful, fascist rhetoric from trump that Fox is hiding from its viewers. Perhaps some will be rightfully concerned and not vote for trump.
 

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Kamala doesn’t lie like Trump lol.
She repeatedly misled Americans about Biden’s mental fitness for at least a year.
It is unfathomable that she did not see his decline and was not aware of it just like the rest of her puppet masters.
Isn’t it strange that none of the left media ever fact checked her about all these lies.
Isn’t it strange that the only reason she is running for president is because her and the rest of the puppet masters forced a “highly competent and vibrant Biden” to resign lol
How about fact checking Kamala’s years of lying.
 

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Kamala doesn’t lie like Trump lol.
She repeatedly misled Americans about Biden’s mental fitness for at least a year.
It is unfathomable that she did not see his decline and was not aware of it just like the rest of her puppet masters.
Isn’t it strange that none of the left media ever fact checked her about all these lies.
Isn’t it strange that the only reason she is running for president is because her and the rest of the puppet masters forced a “highly competent and vibrant Biden” to resign lol
How about fact checking Kamala’s years of lying.

As far as I can see, Biden is still acting as President and does the job.
I know you will answer that it is false and he is controlled by Obama like Republican have been saying since 2020 election (without any proofs).
 
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Jazzman1218

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Kamala doesn’t lie like Trump lol.
She repeatedly misled Americans about Biden’s mental fitness for at least a year.
It is unfathomable that she did not see his decline and was not aware of it just like the rest of her puppet masters.
Isn’t it strange that none of the left media ever fact checked her about all these lies.
Isn’t it strange that the only reason she is running for president is because her and the rest of the puppet masters forced a “highly competent and vibrant Biden” to resign lol
How about fact checking Kamala’s years of lying.
She is Biden's VP. Her job is to support and counsel Biden and to be next in line in presidential succession. She's performed her duties, supported and counseled the POTUS just like every other VP has in every administration in my lifetime. Show me where she has lied about Biden. If she's "repeatedly misled Americans" that should be pretty easy for you to prove.

BTW there's no such thing as "puppet masters" so you may want to reconsider using that phrase in future posts unless you can prove their existence. All I'm interested in is your proof.
 
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BTW there's no such thing as "puppet masters" so you may want to reconsider using that phrase in future posts unless you can prove their existence. All I'm interested in is your proof.
I am really surprised you have never heard of Metallica. I realize your handle implies you like Jazz, and that's fine, I do too, but one should not be oblivious to other musical genres just as one should not be to their terms entering into the popular lexicon because of the music. As Staedtler correctly identified, it is a song about drug addiction and what it does, but the "party line" has become the heroin of the day.

Perhaps you heard of someone named George Washington? In his farewell address he warned the American people about political parties and partisanship. I would suggest you reread his farewell address but here is a summary:

"Washington continues to advance his idea of the dangers of sectionalism and expands his warning to include the dangers of political parties to the country as a whole. These warnings are given in the context of the recent rise of two opposing parties within the government—the Democratic-Republican Party led by Jefferson, and Hamilton's Federalist Party. Washington had striven to remain neutral during a conflict between Britain and France brought about by the French Revolution, while the Democratic-Republicans had made efforts to align with France, and the Federalists had made efforts to ally with Great Britain.

Washington recognizes that it is natural for people to organize and operate within groups such as political parties, but he also argues that every government has recognized political parties as an enemy and has sought to repress them because of their tendency to seek more power than other groups and to take revenge on political opponents. He feels that disagreements between political parties weakened the government.

Moreover, he makes the case that "the alternate domination" of one party over another and coinciding efforts to exact revenge upon their opponents have led to horrible atrocities, and "is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism." From Washington's perspective and judgment, political parties eventually and "gradually incline the minds of men to seek security… in the absolute power of an individual", leading to despotism. He acknowledges the fact that parties are sometimes beneficial in promoting liberty in monarchies, but he argues that political parties must be restrained in a popularly elected government because of their tendency to distract the government from their duties, create unfounded jealousies among groups and regions, raise false alarms among the people, promote riots and insurrection, and provide foreign nations and interests access to the government where they can impose their will upon the country."
 
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Fradi

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She is Biden's VP. Her job is to support and counsel Biden and to be next in line in presidential succession. She's performed her duties, supported and counseled the POTUS just like every other VP has in every administration in my lifetime. Show me where she has lied about Biden. If she's "repeatedly misled Americans" that should be pretty easy for you to prove.

BTW there's no such thing as "puppet masters" so you may want to reconsider using that phrase in future posts unless you can prove their existence. All I'm interested in is your proof.
So now you call lying being supportive lol.
Funny how you like to play with words unless of course you are talking about Trump.
I don’t want to reconsider anything. I don’t play games nor do I take sides nor am I so naive to not recognize all politicians as lying scumbags.
You can however keep playing this Democrats are angels Republicans are evil all you like.
 

Jazzman1218

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I am really surprised you have never heard of Metallica. I realize your handle implies you like Jazz, and that's fine, I do too, but one should not be oblivious to other musical genres just as one should not be to their terms entering into the popular lexicon because of the music. As Staedtler correctly identified, it is a song about drug addiction and what it does, but the "party line" has become the heroin of the day.

Perhaps you heard of someone named George Washington? In his farewell address he warned the American people about political parties and partisanship. I would suggest you reread his farewell address but here is a summary:

"Washington continues to advance his idea of the dangers of sectionalism and expands his warning to include the dangers of political parties to the country as a whole. These warnings are given in the context of the recent rise of two opposing parties within the government—the Democratic-Republican Party led by Jefferson, and Hamilton's Federalist Party. Washington had striven to remain neutral during a conflict between Britain and France brought about by the French Revolution, while the Democratic-Republicans had made efforts to align with France, and the Federalists had made efforts to ally with Great Britain.

Washington recognizes that it is natural for people to organize and operate within groups such as political parties, but he also argues that every government has recognized political parties as an enemy and has sought to repress them because of their tendency to seek more power than other groups and to take revenge on political opponents. He feels that disagreements between political parties weakened the government.

Moreover, he makes the case that "the alternate domination" of one party over another and coinciding efforts to exact revenge upon their opponents have led to horrible atrocities, and "is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism." From Washington's perspective and judgment, political parties eventually and "gradually incline the minds of men to seek security… in the absolute power of an individual", leading to despotism. He acknowledges the fact that parties are sometimes beneficial in promoting liberty in monarchies, but he argues that political parties must be restrained in a popularly elected government because of their tendency to distract the government from their duties, create unfounded jealousies among groups and regions, raise false alarms among the people, promote riots and insurrection, and provide foreign nations and interests access to the government where they can impose their will upon the country."
Washington was warning the nation about a potential tyrant like trump and the cult that is MAGA.
 
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Jazzman1218

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So now you call lying being supportive lol.
Funny how you like to play with words unless of course you are talking about Trump.
I don’t want to reconsider anything. I don’t play games nor do I take sides nor am I so naive to not recognize all politicians as lying scumbags.
You can however keep playing this Democrats are angels Republicans are evil all you like.
I don't recall HW Bush saying anything about Reagan's cognitive loss during their 2nd term.

I simply asked you to provide proof of your assertion that Harris lied about Biden. I also questioned your claim there are "puppet masters" (presumably controlling the Dems) and asked that you prove this allegation. I'm interested in proof, not fable or fantasy, so please share your knowledge.
 
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Fradi

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I don't recall HW Bush saying anything about Reagan's cognitive loss during their 2nd term.

I simply asked you to provide proof of your assertion that Harris lied about Biden. I also questioned your claim there are "puppet masters" (presumably controlling the Dems) and asked that you prove this allegation. I'm interested in proof, not fable or fantasy, so please share your knowledge.
Why are you talking about Reagan and Bush who gives a shit.
Why don’t you simply explain why Kamala lied for so long about Biden’s mental capacity or are you really trying to say she was that dumb that she didn’t know.
You are the one making up fables about Kamala.
She was just a good soldier protecting the boss until it was time to throw him to the wolves and replace him, typical of all scumbag politicians.
These are the kind of people you idolize, pretty sad, how is that for proof lol.
 

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As far as I can see, Biden is still acting as President and does the job.
I know you will answer that it is false and he is controlled by Obama like Republican have been saying since 2020 election (without any proofs).
Really, you can’t be serious.
I have no idea who the puppet masters are or if Obama is part of it and I really don’t care,
It doesn’t change the fact that they all knew about Biden’s mental problems and they lied to the people that elected them and let that poor old guy stumble around and make a fool of himself.
These are the kind of scumbags you guys idolize just go right ahead.
They are no better than Trump just wear different colours lol.
 
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Womaniser

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Really, you can’t be serious.
I have no idea who the puppet masters are or if Obama is part of it and I really don’t care,
It doesn’t change the fact that they all knew about Biden’s mental problems and they lied to the people that elected them and let that poor old guy stumble around and make a fool of himself.
These are the kind of scumbags you guys idolize just go right ahead.
They are no better than Trump just wear different colours lol.

Speaking of colour, have you seen Trump face these last days ?
He's getting closer and closer to an Halloween pumpkin colour !
 

Fradi

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Speaking of colour, have you seen Trump face these last days ?
He's getting closer and closer to an Halloween pumpkin colour !
It is getting close to Halloween and he is being a good sport and dressing up.
That however does not change the fact that you are idolizing a bunch of lying scumbags and don’t want to face reality.
I realize the colour blue is your favourite colour but don’t let it blind you to the scumbags hiding behind it.
 
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