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Womaniser

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I wonder what will happen if Trump is Republican presidential candidate in 2024 and looses again ?
I think the second time he will assemble an armed mob and take control of the Capitole and declare himself President for life and his childrens his successors.
 

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I would much better lick Kamala's a..s than Trump's.
Does your post imply that you would prefer Trump's ass ?
It does not and it did not. But we knew that, your just being cute and witty.
 

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Patron,
I guess you failed to realize that this was a must for the intelligent and decent Democrats otherwise they would not have been able to live with themselves. The cost to the public is not a concern.
This justifies their feel good PC bullshit that they have been spewing for years.
They will now have to find a new scapegoat for all their woes, but of course they never will as they cannot shake feeling responsible for all the generations of bad deeds, this is what really makes them feel good, they can now get back to hating themselves as before and convince everybody that they should be ashamed.
Get ready for another 4 years of PC bullshit.
 

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Better 4 years of PC bullshit than 4 years of crime, violence, incompetence, avoidable deaths and treason.
 
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Really,
Exactly how many years at $ 220,000 could they have afforded to pay Trump from these two impeachment proceedings
I would guess maybe 200-300 years worth. How much security is being payed for during these proceedings so there is not another “insurrection“ of the proceedings.
Real savings for the taxpayer considering Trump is 74 years old.
Please let me know how you came up with the conclusion that this would have saved money for the tax payer.
Hope you don’t give investment advice also.
Trump's salary in retirement is only a small portion of the total cost to the government. The travel allowance is $1 million annually. Office staff $150K, Office rental $100-$500K (no hard limit), Secret Service protection - I would guess at least a couple of million per year. (For obvious reasons, that last figure is not easily obtainable.)

Each of the last three presidents have cost the US tax payer in excess of $1 million per year in retirement, NOT including Service Service protection.

The total cost of the second impeachment is about $3 million. Therefore, in the unlikely event that Trump is no more extravagant than his last 3 predecessors, he will cost the taxpayer that much in the first year of his eviction of office. If we make the ridiculous supposition that Secret Service protection is $0, the impeachment cost would be made up in less than 3 years. I was not aware of the press articles stating that it is now too late to remove Trump's perks when I made my comment. However, if Trump had been convicted with a 2/3 majority, it seems likely that the Senate could and would, overturn whatever statute preserves Trump's perks.

Investing requires a consideration of all relevant factors and a mastery of basic arithmetic. I doubt if I could afford to take your investment advice.
 
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Trump's salary in retirement is only a small portion of the total cost to the government. The travel allowance is $1 million annually. Office staff $150K, Office rental $100-$500K (no hard limit), Secret Service protection - I would guess at least a couple of million per year. (For obvious reasons, that last figure is not easily obtainable.)

Each of the last three presidents have cost the US tax payer in excess of $1 million per year in retirement, NOT including Service Service protection.

The total cost of the second impeachment is about $3 million. Therefore, in the unlikely event that Trump is no more extravagant than his last 3 predecessors, he will cost the taxpayer that much in the first year of his eviction of office. If we make the ridiculous supposition that Secret Service protection is $0, the impeachment cost would be made up in less than 3 years.

Investing requires a consideration of all relevant factors and a mastery of basic arithmetic. I doubt if I could afford to take your investment advice.
Really you estimated the cost of the impeachment to be 3 million how exactly did you come up with that figure, crystal ball, perhaps Zoltan the fortune teller.

This is what they estimated Clinton’s Impeachment to cost and all he was accused of was a blow job.
Trump they impeached twice.
I doubt costs have gone down since Clinton’s time.

Past impeachments

Past impeachments could shed some light on the potential cost, but there’s not a lot to go on.

“A 1998 report to Congress estimated that the cost of former special counsel Kenneth Starr’s investigation of former President Bill Clinton had “just shy of $30 million.” The investigation, which centered on Clinton’s affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, resulted in his impeachment in the House.

Later media reports placed the cost at $47 million–$50 million. Robert Ray, who succeeded Starr as head of the Office of the Independent Counsel, told The Associated Press in 2002 that about $12.5 million was spent on the perjury and obstruction probe of Clinton and his relationship with Lewinsky.”

Based on that estimate I doubt your mastery of arithmetic is worthy of any kind of advice lol
Perhaps it was just a typo and you missed a zero.
 
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Really you estimated the cost of the impeachment to be 3 million how exactly did you come up with that figure, crystal ball, perhaps Zoltan the fortune teller.

This is what they estimated Clinton’s Impeachment to cost and all he was accused of was a blow job.
Trump they impeached twice.
I doubt costs have gone down since Clinton’s time.

Past impeachments

Past impeachments could shed some light on the potential cost, but there’s not a lot to go on.

“A 1998 report to Congress estimated that the cost of former special counsel Kenneth Starr’s investigation of former President Bill Clinton had “just shy of $30 million.” The investigation, which centered on Clinton’s affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, resulted in his impeachment in the House.

Later media reports placed the cost at $47 million–$50 million. Robert Ray, who succeeded Starr as head of the Office of the Independent Counsel, told The Associated Press in 2002 that about $12.5 million was spent on the perjury and obstruction probe of Clinton and his relationship with Lewinsky.”

Based on that estimate I doubt your mastery of arithmetic is worthy of any kind of advice lol
I don’t think the cost of the procedure is a big issue, especially if you assume the government would have just squandered that money anyway... Any American knows getting control on spending is hopeless.

For Clinton, it was not about a bj, it was a bj from a subordinate (#metoo anyone) and then a concerted effort to hide the crime. Any ceo would have been fired just for the bj. Clinton even committed perjury which is one of many reasons why he was disbarred.

He was still a fairly good politician, probably a better choice than biden, trump, harris or pence. And even a better choice than Hillary!
 

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Really you estimated the cost of the impeachment to be 3 million how exactly did you come up with that figure, crystal ball, perhaps Zoltan the fortune teller.

This is what they estimated Clinton’s Impeachment to cost and all he was accused of was a blow job.
Trump they impeached twice.
I doubt costs have gone down since Clinton’s time.

Past impeachments

Past impeachments could shed some light on the potential cost, but there’s not a lot to go on.

“A 1998 report to Congress estimated that the cost of former special counsel Kenneth Starr’s investigation of former President Bill Clinton had “just shy of $30 million.” The investigation, which centered on Clinton’s affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, resulted in his impeachment in the House.

Later media reports placed the cost at $47 million–$50 million. Robert Ray, who succeeded Starr as head of the Office of the Independent Counsel, told The Associated Press in 2002 that about $12.5 million was spent on the perjury and obstruction probe of Clinton and his relationship with Lewinsky.”

Based on that estimate I doubt your mastery of arithmetic is worthy of any kind of advice lol
Perhaps it was just a typo and you missed a zero.
Don't you trust Fox Business? They published an estimate which is, as one might expect, higher than other news sources, but still an order of magnitude under $50 million. I didn't miss a zero, you added one.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/how-much-will-trump-impeachment-trial-cost
 

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I guess it doesn’t matter now that governments just print money and hand it out as “stimulus”
There is about $37 trillion USD in all forms in the world (including all bunking accounts in USD). By devaluating money by about 10% US covers all COVID emergency expenses
 

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House impeachment managers make remarks after the Senate voted to acquit former-President Trump with the highest number of votes to convict from senators of their own party in history.

So, people didn't see that he was guilty? Oh, what a shame. I used to think the United States was something special. Obviously it's not. Spineless people there too.

Remember when Trump said "I could shoot someone in the street and get away with it"

It's pathetic.
 
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I wonder what will happen if Trump is Republican presidential candidate in 2024 and looses again ?
I think the second time he will assemble an armed mob and take control of the Capitole and declare himself President for life and his childrens his successors.
I thought this was about the insurrection on the capitol? Not about increasing the chances for the dumocrats getting a win or the republicans getting a loss in 2024. Because it would be wrong going through this whole impeachment charade just because a political party wanted to have an advantage in an upcoming election.

Oh wait, that's exactly what just happened.
 
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And how exactly would they get that advantage, lol???

The advantage woulda been there for the republicans if the RINOs showed some gonads, but only a republican would know that. Not a MAGAstani
 
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The Nature Boy

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But I suppose any reasonable person with common sense could see through the political tension and would know that that was not really her intent.
And any reasonable person would know that the above clip is reaching......really, really reaching for a lame comparison. To the point where one would mistake it for fisting ones self possibly
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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sene5hos

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Despite voting to acquit former President Donald Trump of inciting the January 6 riot, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said that there was no question that Trump was responsible for provoking the riot and said the Senate cannot impeach a President that is not in office.

McConnell is just playing a game to benefit himself and his party, his words have no value because his action opposes them.
 
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