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IS TRUMP ALREADY MAKING A CASE FOR IMPEACHMENT??? More and more are saying...YES.
First, this is extremely risky for him. Republicans will support him as long as he tends to follow more of their agenda. If not, there's the major group he's alienated when he needs them if there is an impeachment. Lose the Alt Right-White Nationalists too and he better not have given any cause for anyone to think about impeachment.
However, if he continues to handle his administration after he's inaugurated as he has since the election, discussing personal business deals, generating questions about perk between himself and diplomats concerning his hotel near the White House, and reportedly receiving gifts while stating about conflict of interest..."only the crooked media makes this a big deal!" shows he intends to ignore and act like he's above every other President.
Rump actually said, the only reason this is a problem is because the media is letting everyone know what he's doing. He acts like he wants to dig his own grave by acting like he's immune to all consequences. Already about 100 diplomats have stayed at his hotel at $20,000 per night. That's $2 million of possible conflict of interest if it was not handled properly. All done in just two weeks. What more in still slightly less than 2 months before inauguration will he do.
Trump poised to violate Constitution his first day in office, George W. Bush’s ethics lawyer says
The Constitution doesn’t allow presidents to seek gifts from foreign agents.
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-poi...hs-ethics-lawyer-says-73e14789a935#.z6lbvtmbg
The declaration that he currently has global properties comes after promising that he would separate himself from his Trump Organization and hand the company off to his adult children Ivanka, Donald Jr. and Eric Trump in a so-called blind trust. He has so far done no such thing. In fact, his tweet is a statement in the present tense ― “I have interests in properties all over the world” ― that affirms his current ownership and management of his business empire.
The children continue to take part in their father’s presidential transition despite their supposed work leading the Trump Organization. Ivanka Trump even appeared at a meeting with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and reportedly was handed the phone to speak to Argentinian President Mauricio Macri when he called to congratulate her father. Trump is working to build an office tower in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
During the campaign, Trump stated, “f I become president, I couldn’t care less about my company. It’s peanuts.” He added, “I wouldn’t ever be involved because I wouldn’t care about anything but our country, anything.”
“President-elect Trump seems to think that he will be able to enrich himself as president and blame the press when he is caught,” said John Wonderlich, executive director of the pro-transparency group The Sunlight Foundation. “He’s going to learn soon that campaigning is very different from leading a country built on integrity and the rule of law.”
Trump is responding to the parade of stories detailing his immense portfolio of potential conflicts of interest. He met with his Indian business partners one week after winning the presidency. He continues to hold a government lease for his Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., even though the lease declares that it cannot be held by a government official. Last week, the hotel held an event to pitch its luxury rooms to foreign diplomats as a way to ingratiate their countries with the president-elect. And there have been reports about Ivanka Trump’s appearance at the meeting with Abe and her talk with Macri.
Cheers
First, this is extremely risky for him. Republicans will support him as long as he tends to follow more of their agenda. If not, there's the major group he's alienated when he needs them if there is an impeachment. Lose the Alt Right-White Nationalists too and he better not have given any cause for anyone to think about impeachment.
However, if he continues to handle his administration after he's inaugurated as he has since the election, discussing personal business deals, generating questions about perk between himself and diplomats concerning his hotel near the White House, and reportedly receiving gifts while stating about conflict of interest..."only the crooked media makes this a big deal!" shows he intends to ignore and act like he's above every other President.
Rump actually said, the only reason this is a problem is because the media is letting everyone know what he's doing. He acts like he wants to dig his own grave by acting like he's immune to all consequences. Already about 100 diplomats have stayed at his hotel at $20,000 per night. That's $2 million of possible conflict of interest if it was not handled properly. All done in just two weeks. What more in still slightly less than 2 months before inauguration will he do.
Trump poised to violate Constitution his first day in office, George W. Bush’s ethics lawyer says
The Constitution doesn’t allow presidents to seek gifts from foreign agents.
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-poi...hs-ethics-lawyer-says-73e14789a935#.z6lbvtmbg
The declaration that he currently has global properties comes after promising that he would separate himself from his Trump Organization and hand the company off to his adult children Ivanka, Donald Jr. and Eric Trump in a so-called blind trust. He has so far done no such thing. In fact, his tweet is a statement in the present tense ― “I have interests in properties all over the world” ― that affirms his current ownership and management of his business empire.
The children continue to take part in their father’s presidential transition despite their supposed work leading the Trump Organization. Ivanka Trump even appeared at a meeting with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and reportedly was handed the phone to speak to Argentinian President Mauricio Macri when he called to congratulate her father. Trump is working to build an office tower in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
During the campaign, Trump stated, “f I become president, I couldn’t care less about my company. It’s peanuts.” He added, “I wouldn’t ever be involved because I wouldn’t care about anything but our country, anything.”
“President-elect Trump seems to think that he will be able to enrich himself as president and blame the press when he is caught,” said John Wonderlich, executive director of the pro-transparency group The Sunlight Foundation. “He’s going to learn soon that campaigning is very different from leading a country built on integrity and the rule of law.”
Trump is responding to the parade of stories detailing his immense portfolio of potential conflicts of interest. He met with his Indian business partners one week after winning the presidency. He continues to hold a government lease for his Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., even though the lease declares that it cannot be held by a government official. Last week, the hotel held an event to pitch its luxury rooms to foreign diplomats as a way to ingratiate their countries with the president-elect. And there have been reports about Ivanka Trump’s appearance at the meeting with Abe and her talk with Macri.
Cheers
"The law's totally on my side. The president can't have a conflict of interest," Trump said today.
"Well, when the president does it, that means it is not illegal", Nixon to David Frost in 1977.
History unlearned is doomed to repeat itself.
Cheers,
"Well, when the president does it, that means it is not illegal", Nixon to David Frost in 1977.
History unlearned is doomed to repeat itself.
Cheers,
POSSIBILITY COMPUTER HACKERS CHANGED RESULTS IN 3 KEY SWING STATES ( Wisconsin, Michigan Pennsylvania)
Activists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results in 3 Swing States
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...sults-in-3-swing-states/ar-AAkD4w7?li=BBnb7Kz
Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private.
Last Thursday, the activists held a conference call with Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and campaign general counsel Marc Elias to make their case, according to a source briefed on the call. The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots. Based on this statistical analysis, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes; she lost Wisconsin by 27,000. While it’s important to note the group has not found proof of hacking or manipulation, they are arguing to the campaign that the suspicious pattern merits an independent review — especially in light of the fact that the Obama White House has accused the Russian government of hacking the Democratic National Committee.
Didn't you know something like this could happen on either side. Just look at how the Russians used Wikileaks.
Activists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results in 3 Swing States
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...sults-in-3-swing-states/ar-AAkD4w7?li=BBnb7Kz
Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private.
Last Thursday, the activists held a conference call with Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and campaign general counsel Marc Elias to make their case, according to a source briefed on the call. The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots. Based on this statistical analysis, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes; she lost Wisconsin by 27,000. While it’s important to note the group has not found proof of hacking or manipulation, they are arguing to the campaign that the suspicious pattern merits an independent review — especially in light of the fact that the Obama White House has accused the Russian government of hacking the Democratic National Committee.
Didn't you know something like this could happen on either side. Just look at how the Russians used Wikileaks.
I'm sure the very narrow minded here think I hate Rump because he's Republican. I've known about his long Democratic ties for about 25 years. It doesn't matter what party he belongs to or whether a person elected exactly like him was a woman with huge perfect breasts. His character is the filthiest most unethical and immoral I've ever seen in a Presidential candidate and that's the only point I care about with him.
When it comes to the previous post I'm not sure I want it to be true. As I've said before I've studied what happens when such things happens and legitimacy becomes very shaky. It's extremely corrupting and becomes disastrous. You can imagine how the rabid Rump supporters would react if the results were changed no matter how legitimate. But this needs to be investigated and sorted out no matter if it's challenged officially or not. Leaving it out in the air as an open question also challenges legitimacy.
It's going to be interesting how our board members who were rabidly
angry about a RIGGED ELECTION react to this possibility. I bet
they reverse their views like champion hypocrites and say it's crying.
Cheersangry about a RIGGED ELECTION react to this possibility. I bet
they reverse their views like champion hypocrites and say it's crying.
Did you say "cowardly?" That sounds like you want to engage in a flame war? No, no to that. I am just pointing out a fact. You can either hop on one of those busses that the DNC or Soros pays for and become a paid protester or maybe travel to one of the universities and comfort the wimp liberal arts students by serving them pizza and hot coco in their safe spaces or you can put your big boy pants on and accept the fact that you lost and America does not like the ultra left path that this country was headed in with 8 years of the appeaser and rejected 4 more years with Killary. It's over. Your side lost. Better luck next time.
Mods - please consider closing the thread
Blah, blah, blah. Trump won and Clinton lost, the US will be better for it. Let the Clinton groupies have their say, in a year or so when the US is in better shape they will fade away.
What? He's not even start his presidency. This thread will be great for another 4 years!
You see for many of us, it's not about republicain versus democrat, it's not about win or loose. Cannot care less about that. Life is much more complicated then win/loose, if you not my friend you are my enemy, or any rethoric like that.
Cheers!
Especially if Trump manage to get the coast rich elitist to share their wealth! Problem is, he is one of them!
Cheers,
Congratulations to Nikki Haley- new Ambasaador to the UN and first woman and non-white Trump appointee. South Carolina will miss their elected leader but she has been called upon to serve her country and should be a solid ambassador.
Is Romney next as Secretary of State?
Is Romney next as Secretary of State?
No, I do not want to stop the discussion. I just think that Trump is the President elect that we ought to close this thread and open another. We can call it something like Thread for Cry Babies that Can't Cope with Reality or Safe Space for Bitch-Boys and Wimps . The first post can be the following: Thomas Jefferson 3rd President of the United States was an Adulterer who Owned Slaves! We can all have a collective moral outrage over Thomas Jefferson just like the do on the college campus and then we can all identify as one of the herd. I think this could be a good place for white liberals to come and shed their white guilt and whip themselves with figurative chains and share other enlightened topics like what is an appropriate Halloween costume and how many bathrooms should a public building have? I say six: One for men and one other for woman and another for men that are now women and a 4th for woman that are now men and one more for men or women that see themselves as animals and ahhhh...this is ridiculous. 5 bathrooms is good...this should be sufficient.
Come on guys. Get over it. He is the President. Deal with it like I had to deal with Obama for 8 years. Time to move on.
Come on guys. Get over it. He is the President. Deal with it like I had to deal with Obama for 8 years. Time to move on.
Barring a miracle, Herr Drumpf will be the president in January. In the meantime, the following should concern everybody:
1) Is he appointing white supremists to the cabinet and as his closest advisers?
2) Will he compromise the US to make money for himself? It already appears that way.
3) Will he use the office to attempt to muzzle the press and/or punish those who opposed him?
1) Is he appointing white supremists to the cabinet and as his closest advisers?
2) Will he compromise the US to make money for himself? It already appears that way.
3) Will he use the office to attempt to muzzle the press and/or punish those who opposed him?
Lol.....you are inciting the libbys my friend
Seriously though, as i said before and i will say it again, this is the thread that just keeps on giving and giving and giving.......SMILES that is
It is sooooooo much fun seeing grown men crying daily because they lost. The great Killary and Wild Bill LOST the chance at more corruption in the white house and the crow and humble pie is not nearly as good as coconut creme or apple pie.
Yes congrats to Nikki Haley who everyone is saying is a rising star...quite a good looking woman as well! Oh wait, Trump hates and disrespects women, so this can't be legit, right boyzzzzzzz?ound:
Newsflash, I bet you he ends up hiring lots more women and lots of minorities as well, then what?
Ahhhh sweet victory,
keep losing boyzzzzz
"cheers"
Seriously though, as i said before and i will say it again, this is the thread that just keeps on giving and giving and giving.......SMILES that is
It is sooooooo much fun seeing grown men crying daily because they lost. The great Killary and Wild Bill LOST the chance at more corruption in the white house and the crow and humble pie is not nearly as good as coconut creme or apple pie.Yes congrats to Nikki Haley who everyone is saying is a rising star...quite a good looking woman as well! Oh wait, Trump hates and disrespects women, so this can't be legit, right boyzzzzzzz?
ound:Newsflash, I bet you he ends up hiring lots more women and lots of minorities as well, then what?
Ahhhh sweet victory,
keep losing boyzzzzz
"cheers"
Much like the oBama supporters did after a couple short years in office. Libbys are all talk and then jump ship faster than a habs fan when they lose a game :lol:
Every politician does this, look at Canada.
1) JT appointing green activists to shut our economy down
2) The Trudeau trust fund ( same as the Clinton foundation, a legal place to get bribe money )
3) Tell all his members on which way to vote, and they must, loves the CBC as they kiss his ass.
Yup, the US would have been better off with a crooked, evil lying skank such as Clinton....
uke:There seems to be an unspoken conclusion in this thread, on both sides of the debate, that Trump is right wing and conservative. Wrong! Do not look at his election campaign statements. Look at his actions his entire adult life. I guarantee you he has donated more to the Democratic Party than Passione and Doc Holliday have earned in their lives combined. He attended fundraisers with the Clintons and behind the scenes is probably in bed with them on business deals. I am adopting a wait and see approach on Trump, because I believe all of you are totally wrong on him and that he will prove to be moderate and pragmatic, outraging the more right wing detractors but also disappointing the left wing detractors who are startled and confused by the pragmatism and liberalism of some of his policies. I suspect there will be profound confusion and surprise at his positions. Do not predict him as he will be unpredictable.
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