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cloudsurf

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Since Trump himself hasn`t got a clue as to what is going to spew out of his mouth once he parts those cherry lips....I`m glad that Gabriella is so well tuned into him and can translate the meaning of his thoughts for us.
 

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Meet the big-name Republicans supporting Hillary Clinton


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-name-republicans-supporting-hillary-clinton/

Bush administration officials


  • Henry Paulson, treasury secretary
  • Richard Armitage, deputy secretary of state and adviser to Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush — Trump "doesn't appear to be to be a Republican, he doesn't appear to want to learn about issues. So I’m going to vote for Mrs. Clinton."
  • Brent Scowcroft, chairman of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board and adviser to three previous GOP presidents — "The presidency requires the judgment and knowledge to make tough calls under pressure.... [Clinton] has the wisdom and experience to lead our country at this critical time."
  • Alan Steinberg, regional EPA administrator
  • Kori Schake, National Security Council and State Department aide
Advisers to previous GOP presidents



Foreign policy leaders


  • Robert Kagan, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, former Reagan State Department aide and adviser to the presidential campaigns of John McCain and Mitt Romney
  • Max Boot, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and adviser to GOP presidential candidates — "I'm literally losing sleep over Donald Trump. She would be vastly preferable to Trump."
  • Peter Mansoor, retired Army colonel and former aide to David Petraeus — "It will be the first Democratic presidential candidate I’ve voted for in my adult life."
Business leaders/donors

  • Marc Andreessen, venture capitalist — "[Silicon] Valley wouldn't be here, we wouldn't be doing any of this if we didn't have the amazing flow of immigrants that we've had in the last 80 years. And the idea of choking that off just makes me sick to my stomach."
  • Dan Akerson, former chairman and chief executive of General Motors — "Serving as the leader of the free world requires effective leadership, sound judgment, a steady hand and, most importantly, the temperament to deal with crises large and small. Donald Trump lacks each of these characteristics."
  • Chuck Robbins, chief executive of Cisco
  • Hamid Moghadam, chairman and chief executive of Prologis — "Our country is about tolerance and inclusion and that's why, as a lifelong Republican supporter, I endorse Hillary Clinton for president in this election."
  • William Oberndorf, $3 million to GOP candidates since 2012 — "If it is Trump vs. Clinton, and there is no viable third-party candidate, I will be voting for Hillary Clinton."
  • Mike Fernandez, $4 million to GOP candidates in recent years — "If I have a choice — and you can put it in bold — if I have a choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton, I’m choosing Hillary. She’s the lesser of two evils."
Former Republican elected officials

  • Larry Pressler, former three-term Republican senator from South Dakota who lost an independent campaign for his old seat in 2014 — "I can’t believe I’m endorsing Hillary Clinton for president, but I am. If someone had told me 10 years ago I would do this, I wouldn’t have believed them."
  • Arne Carlson, a former two-term Republican governor of Minnesota who supported President Obama
  • Robert Smith, former New York state Supreme Court justice — "This year, I’m going to vote for a Democrat for president  —  the first time I’ve done it in 36 years  —  and I think the decision is easy. Hillary Clinton is the only responsible choice, and I don’t understand why so few of my fellow conservatives see it that way."
Political operatives

  • Mark Salter, former top adviser to John McCain — "Whatever Hillary Clinton’s faults, she’s not ignorant or hateful or a nut. She acts like an adult and understands the responsibilities of an American president. That might not be a ringing endorsement. But in 2016, the year of Trump’s s campaign, it’s more than enough."
  • Mike Treiser, former Mitt Romney aide — "In the face of bigotry, hatred, violence, and small-mindedness, this time, I’m with her.”
  • Craig Snyder, former chief of staff to then-Republican former senator Arlen Specter (Pa.) and also an ex-colleague of former top Trump adviser Roger Stone and current top Trump adviser Paul Manafort.
Journalists






This does not include many Republicans who refuse to support Trump but have not said they support Clinton. The Ted Cruz, Richard Kasich types.
 
Since Trump himself hasn`t got a clue as to what is going to spew out of his mouth once he parts those cherry lips....I`m glad that Gabriella is so well tuned into him and can translate the meaning of his thoughts for us.

I'm glad I was able to highlight for you what was actually written without the need of biased translation.
But carry on. Playing word twister is a lot more fun for some...
 

Doc Holliday

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Chump just told George Stefanopoulos on ABC that he wasn't sure if he had ever met Vladimir Putin. When Stefanopoulos replied that this is something he'd surely remember, Trump replied in the affirmative.

I'm certain this bigoted self-centred ignorant a-hole also suffers from dementia. His father had it and it can be hereditary.

Oh yeah, he also crapped all over the military's generals during the interview.
 

blkone

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Yes, because Hitler was the first person to war or kill.

I am sick to death of people bringing up Hitler nonsense when Democracy is nothing more than a sick joke.

As for me? Hitler was not lynching black folks, or stealing their resources.

Hitler is considered the 'most evil' to white skinned people, because, almost all of his victims were white people.

I am still waiting for an article that compares Trump/Hilary or whomever to Leopold II. Or, Jackson or etc.

Now, do not get me wrong. I am not saying that Hitler was a saint, but, the most evil man ever? Really? When we live on a continent born of genocide and is the case in the U.S of racial laws continuing for about 190 years?

Nazi Germany's racial laws lasted what? 5 years?
 

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As for me? Hitler was not lynching black folks, or stealing their resources.

Only because they were not within his reach. Does the victims race matter or is it the crime that matters?

When we live on a continent born of genocide and is the case in the U.S of racial laws continuing for about 190 years?

Nazi Germany's racial laws lasted what? 5 years?

The genocide was almost 300 years old when the U.S. first had laws.

Also it was 12 years for the Nazis. Yes, very short, but the most costly in history considering all who died because of them.


He's more like a mix of McCarthy and Robespierre. Both expanded their range of targets whenever they felt they needed to reinvigorate their power, and sat as self-appointed judges of life and death, in Robespierre's case literally. Both went too far and eventually self-destructed.
 

blkone

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The genocide was almost 300 years old when the U.S. first had laws.

Also it was 12 years for the Nazis. Yes, very short, but the most costly in history considering all who died because of them.

1. What nonsense. What utter nonsense! Residential schools were 300 years ago?, Segregation and U.S slavery? What utter rubbish! Stop lying about history!

2. No, it was 5 years towards the end when the atrocities actually began. 6,000,000? Why is that such a big number? According to historians 9,000,000-11,000,000 Africans died in the slave trade. 30,000,000-65,000,000 Million Native Americans were killed.

3. So, again, why is Hitler "THE MOST EVIL MAN EVER, EVER, EVER" ?
 

blkone

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@Passionné

"In 1838 and 1839, as part of Andrew Jackson's Indian removal policy, the Cherokee nation was forced to give up its lands east of the Mississippi River and to migrate to an area in present-day Oklahoma. The Cherokee people called this journey the "Trail of Tears," because of its devastating effects."

So 1838 was 300 years before 1776... Really?

And that's just one act of genocide. There were many, many more. Also... seeing as the United States is only 240 years old, I'm not sure how you even came up with this '300 years before they had laws'. Thing.
 

blkone

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I think you may be a little bit lost on the historical facts about Hitler.
He was not only rounding up Jewish people or whites, but also the Roma/Gypsys who do have a slightly darker coloration than white Europeans.
He was just plain demented and evil and definitely a top candidate.
There were many others throughout history for sure.

I am not lost at all. I have a masters in history.

Tell me, when is the last time we had a 'Roma' remembrance day? Do you even know of a date, or ad?

Why do you think that is?

(Also - I never said what he did was good - but to pretend as if he was the 'MOST EVIL MAN EVER' is total baloney. <cue the evil music>).
 

blkone

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@Sam21,

Without resorting to Google ... can you name one, just one Roma survivor of the German labor camps?
 

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1. What nonsense. What utter nonsense! Residential schools were 300 years ago?, Segregation and U.S slavery? What utter rubbish! Stop lying about history!

Please read carefully. You said "when we live on a continent born of genocide". I was speaking of the beginning of genocide in the Western Hemisphere, or the North American continent if you like, beginning almost 300 years before the U.S.. It began in 1493 as a cause of Columbus' 2nd Voyage to Hispaniola where an estimated 3 million died. https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/09/20/the-taino-genocide/

2. No, it was 5 years when the atrocities started. 6 million? Why is that such a big number? According to historians 9-11 million Africans died in the slave trade. 30-65 Million Native Americans were killed.

"Why is that such a big number?" I don't see the subject as a game of whose got the biggest numbers. The episodes are monumental tragic disasters not pieces for blogging gamesmanship. Besides, just for historical accuracy 11 million were killed in concentration camps. Referring to the numbers of Jewish persons killed only (of whom I'm partly one) is misleading. https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts/11-facts-about-holocaust

Estimates are 35 to 60 million died in the 6 years of WW II, 1939 to 1945. The steadiest number for Russians alone is 20 to 24 million. https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts/11-facts-about-holocaust

You seem to have a cause you are very emotional about, the catastrophic African Slave Trade. That's good. Don't let it polarize your judgment. This is not a contest.

*** You never answered my question. You don't have to but I'll ask again. Is it the race of the victims or the crimes that matter?
 
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Today, long-time Republican and Jeb Bush advisor Sally Bradshaw announced that she quit the Republican party. This isn't the first GOP defection, nor will it be the last. Donald Chump has badly damaged the grand old party and the damages will be very visible come November.
 

Doc Holliday

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New polls released:

Clinton 52%
Chump 43%


Chump only has his crazy self to blame for these numbers (and his big mouth)
 

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Today, long-time Republican and Jeb Bush advisor Sally Bradshaw announced that she quit the Republican party. This isn't the first GOP defection, nor will it be the last. Donald Chump has badly damaged the grand old party and the damages will be very visible come November.

Many long-time Republicans, both politicians and commentators, have either left the party or repudiated Trump. But what's far more astonishing to the rational and reasonable American mind is that so many in the party cannot find it in themselves to reject Trump, most prominently Ryan and McConnell, but also McCain and others. They repeatedly express their dismay at Trump's ignorance, racism, and arrogance, and yet they seem to put their own political fortunes (or their greed) before the good of the nation. Far more disgraceful than Trump's antics is the shameful cowardice shown by so many in the party who obviously loathe him and yet can't do the right thing.
 
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