Two explosions at Boston Marathon

[Doc Holliday]

There's now confusion on whether or not an arrest had been made. We hear word that a suspect had been identified, another report that an arrest had been made, other reports that no arrests had been made, etc.

Reliable law enforcement sources have told various media organizations that indeed an arrest had been made, others stated 'we got him', etc. And others have denied this. Very confusing.

We should get more clarity as the day goes on.....hopefully.

Update:

5pm press conference scheduled

 

[Vercingentorix]

These pictures are absolutely fascinating. Take a long look : http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/

Mods, I would put down more info, but these pics are worth several thousand words........

 

[Merlot]

Hello all,

Now remember, all of the below is based on reports (easily Googled)...as reliable or questionable as they might be.

As feared, the rush to get out the "Big News" first has resulted in the expected consequences, the general problem being unfounded assertions, often on the most important details. While the New York Post has been one of the worse, a lot of reputable news service agencies on both sides of the political scales have made critical mistakes. The latest seems to be the report that a suspect has been arrested. Like you I'm not sure what or who to believe, but many media outlets that reported the arrest are now backing off and/or retracting their statements.

If reporting is accurate, and who can know with all of these mistakes what is, innocent people are paying a heavy cost for the rushed publishing of misinformation. The error in reporting that a Saudi was either a "suspect" or "person of interest" has lead to alleged beatings of men that had an Arab appearance. If true, one person confronted another and asked if he was an Arab. When the man spoke honestly in a free country he was beaten. No surprise there since Arabs/Muslims are the favorite scapegoats for anything resembling a bombing.

Some might say this is understandable given 911 and the frequency of Mideast terrorism in the news. I don't, and its very sad to see people lashing out because of common broad stereotyping. No doubt some people are rationalizing such attacks. I see it playing into the hands of the real bombers giving them some of the things they want... like social disruption (fear) and biased retaliation (racist revenge).

Keep in mind this from the link in post #45:

..."the image of the two men standing together wearing the same clothes and carrying heavy backpacks and wearing credentials suggests they may have been involved in a drill or in the actual attack."

I'm only suggesting like the title...it's a question mark.



Merlot

 

[Maddogwill]

crazy ass shootout now one dead second running around

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

It would be nice to catch the second one alive and pry some info out of him.... Waterboarding anyone.

 

[hungry101]

Boston bomb suspects are from Islam-linked Chechnya

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...ects-are-from-islam-linked-chechnya-1-5592359

They are from Chechneya. They have been exporting jahadists for about 20 years now.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&g...X&ei=XzJxUan7EcWt4AOUhIEI&sqi=2&ved=0CJwBELYD

Chechneyans are from Soviet Georgia but have turned up in Fallujah, Afghanastan, Somalia....etc. exporting terrorism throughout the world.

 

[Merlot]

Chechneyans are from Soviet Georgia but have turned up in Fallujah, Afghanastan, Somalia....etc. exporting terrorism throughout the world.

Hello all,

Just for information sake, Georgia isn't "Soviet" anymore since the breakup of the USSR. It's an independent sovereign Republic. Chechnya is outside of Georgia, and though it is called a republic it actually belongs to Russia, being more like a U.S. state as I understand it. Chechnya was briefly independent until that state decided to help another tiny Russian controlled "republic" seek independence giving the Russians an excuse to re-establish control. Thus the hatred and militancy.

In an interview on WEEI this morning around 10:00 a man saying he had been a friend of bombing suspect #1 said he had been close friends with him for several years. Now I may be mixing which of the suspect brothers did what but one of them, but it was said one of the suspects was a phenomenal boxing who claimed to want to fight for the U.S. in the Olympics. Probably suspect 1. The other suspect was on Facebook and wide open about his hatred of Russia. The story is that suspect 1 claimed he had no American friends, but the man in the interview said he had nothing but American friends in the several years they hung out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis

Chechen terrorists are noted for their ruthlessness, once taking hostage a school. The result, also because of Russian use of heavy military weapons including taking and incendiaries, led to the deaths of 334 hostages including 186 children. The terrorists, who are Muslim but not Arabs, are known to cooperate with Al Qaeda.



Merlot

 

[Vercingentorix]

But let's not profile Islamic Terrorists or the fact that one of these guys posted several videos on Youtube supporting Al Qaeda. He couldn't since Al Qaeda has been all but destroyed, right? For those of you who think it's too soon to get political remember that Obama came out against "gun violence" roughly 24 hours after Newtown. I wonder what the residents of Boston would be thinking if they were only limited to 7 bullets a la New York State??

Reality is a bitch when you're living in wonderland....

EDIT: People really seem to have a hard time understanding a warning. When I say to keep the political bullshit out of this thread I am not writing this so I can have the pleasure of being the only one to read it.

The previous two members were suspended for two weeks. As you did not bother to heed the warning, you now have three weeks off.

Anyone want to try for four?

Mod 8

 

[Red Paul]

Reality is a bitch when you're living in wonderland....

I'll get you a t-shirt saying that.

 

[Maddogwill]

As of now he escaped on foot as all the police leaving the area

 

[Doc Holliday]

They supposedly found him on a boat. There's currently a gunfight going on (according to reports) and they've got him cornered. I'm hoping they get him alive.

 

[Maddogwill]

Just right now they got him alive with injuries

 

[mrjake]

Good to hear he is alive, only because hopefully they will get all the details behind the reasons for the bombing and how they did it.

 

[Merlot]

:thumb:

We got him!': Boston bombing suspect captured alive​

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...im-boston-bombing-suspect-captured-alive?lite

Residents who have been holed up in their homes, media and law enforcement officials who have been engaged in a day-long manhunt for the at-large suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing let out a cheers after it was confirmed that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had been apprehended.
By Pete Williams, Richard Esposito, Michael Isikoff and Tracy Connor, NBC News

The Boston Marathon bombing suspect was captured alive but wounded Friday night after police found him holed up in a boat in a suburban backyard following a bloody rampage and a daylong manhunt.

The arrest of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, and the earlier death of his brother during a firefight with cops, ended five days of terror sowed by the double bombing at the marathon finish line, which killed three people, wounded 176 and left the city of Boston on edge.

"We got him," Boston Mayor Tom Menino tweeted.

"CAPTURED!!! The hunt is over. The search is done. The terror is over. And justice has won," the Boston Police Department said on its Twitter account.

Cops cheered as the suspect was taken into custody in Watertown, Mass. just before 9 p.m., and residents flooded the streets, some chanting, "USA!"

Police cornered Tsarnaev -- a naturalized U.S. citizen of Chechen origin -- around 7 p.m., less than an hour after police lifted a stay-indoors order for the city and its suburbs.

A resident went outside to smoke and noticed a tarp on the boat was flapping, a relative told NBC News. When he went to investigate, he saw what looked like a curled-up person and bloody clothes.

The man "freaked out," ran into the house and called police, the relative said.

Thermal imaging from helicopters confirmed there was a person in the boat, officials said.

Over the course of two hours, several bursts of gunfire could be heard. The police threw flash-bang grenades designed to disorient and brought a negotiator to the scene as night fell.

Just before 9 p.m., a wounded Tsarnaev was taken into custody. "He sustained significant blood loss," a law enforcement official at the scene said.

As an ambulance took the suspect to the hospital -- where he was in serious condition -- people lining the streets applauded in joy and relief.

“We are so grateful to be here right now, so grateful to able to bring justice and closure to this case,” said Massachusetts State Police Col. Timothy Alben said at a briefing. “We’re exhausted folks but we have a victory here.”

Gov. Deval Patrick said the people of the state could "rest easy" but noted that there were many unanswered questions. Police have not released a motive for the bombing and they were still investigating whether Tsarnaev had help.

He will be questioned by a federal government team called the High Value Detainee Interrogation Group, consisting of officials of the FBI, CIA, and Defense Department, an Obama administration official said.

Tsarnaev's apprehension capped a manhunt that had the city of Boston and its suburbs on total lockdown -- following a rampage that included the slaying of a campus security officer, a carjacking and the death of Tsarnaev's 26-year-old brother, Tamerlan, in a firefight with cops.

The overnight violence had triggered an extraordinary shutdown of transportation, schools and businesses in Boston and its surrounding suburbs, with police warning more than a million people to hunker down behind locked doors while SWAT teams fanned out.

The brothers' bloody last stand began about five hours after the FBI released surveillance photos of two "extremely dangerous" men suspected of planting two bombs near the finish line of Monday's Boston Marathon, killing three and wounding 176.

Read more: Who are the brothers accused of the Boston Marathon bombing?

Tips about the identity of the suspects were still pouring in when the Tsarnaev brothers fatally shot Massachusetts Institute of Technology officer Sean Collier, 26, in his vehicle at 10:20 p.m., law enforcement officials said.

The brothers then carjacked a Mercedes SUV, holding the driver captive for a half-hour while they tried to use his cash card to get money from three ATM's, a source said. At the first, they put in the wrong number; at the second, they took out $800 and at the third, they were told they had exceeded the withdrawal limit, the source said.
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The carjacking victim was released unharmed at a gas station in Cambridge, sources said. He told police the brothers said they were the marathon bombers and had just killed a campus officer.

As the duo sped in his car toward Watertown, a police chase ensued and they tossed explosive devices out the window, officials said.

There was a long exchange of gunfire, according to Andrew Kitzenberg of Watertown, who took photos of the clash from his window and shared them via social media.

“They were also utilizing bombs, which sounded and looked like grenades, while engaging in the gunfight,” he told NBC News in an interview. “They also had what looked like a pressure-cooker bomb.

“I saw them light this bomb. They threw it towards the officers,” he said. “There was smoke that covered our entire street.”

A transit officer, identified as Richard H. Donahue, 33, was seriously injured during the pursuit. Authorities said he underwent surgery at Mount Auburn Hospital.

Kitzenberg said he saw the firefight end when Tamerlan Tsarnaev ran toward the officers and ultimately fell to the ground.

Tamerlan -- the man in the black hat from FBI photos released six hours earlier -- had an improvised explosive device strapped to his chest, law enforcement officials said.

Dzhokhar -- the brother who was wearing a white hat in the surveillance photos from the marathon -- got away when he drove the SUV through a line of police officers at the end of the street, Kitzenberg said.

Law enforcement sources told NBC News that blood found at the scene suggests Dzhokhar may have been wounded in the gun battle. The FBI released more photos of him, including a surveillance camera photo from a convenience store where the brothers had stopped for gas.

A stay-indoors order was issued for Boston and its surrounding suburbs, affecting more than a million people who were warned to lock their doors. Subways and buses were shut down, and Amtrak service to Boston was cut. The Red Sox and Boston Bruins' home games were canceled.

Harvard University, Boston University, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Emerson University were closed. The University of Massachusetts' Dartmouth campus was evacuated because of a possible tie to someone in the case, the school said.

Watertown was the epicenter of the search. Frightened residents were trapped inside as convoys of heavily armed officers and troops arrived by the hour and snipers perched on rooftops and in backyards.

Investigators searched all day for Tsarnaev, but with no sign of him as night approached, they said residents could venture outside. People began leaving their homes, some of them cheering.

SWAT units were still on the scene when the shots were heard just before 7 p.m. and police converged on the boat.

An administration official said Tsarnaev was not read his Miranda rights and could be questioned without them for up to 48 hours under a special legal exception used in cases where public safety is at stake.

NBC News' Jonathan Dienst and Kasie Hunt contributed to this story.

It sounds like the police want to party with this guy for a couple of days. Ahhhhhhhhhhh, too bad there won't be any live closed circuit tv of the fun.

Bravo to everyone involved in his capture. :whoo: :amen:



Merlot

 

[daydreamer41]

It sounds like the police want to party with this guy for a couple of days. Ahhhhhhhhhhh, too bad there won't be any live closed circuit tv of the fun.​

Merlot

Merlot, this creep is in critical condition. I don't think police will be getting him to say much unless he has a speedy recovery.

 

[daydreamer41]

Well, an interesting aspect of this sad event was the 2 suspects' Uncle who is Chechnian and Muslim, vehemently denounced his 2 nephews.

I think this proves that Radical Islam is a loud Minority stewing trouble around the world targeting the west. And people like his Uncle are part of the quiet majority of Muslims wanting to peacefully live their lives without confrontation. We are being attacked, and those attacking us are of the Radical element. Radical anything is not good.

 

[mrjake]

It sounds like the police want to party with this guy for a couple of days. Ahhhhhhhhhhh, too bad there won't be any live closed circuit tv of the fun.

No idea what this means.

 

[Special K]

I lived about 4 houses down on that same street 3 years ago. Great work by all agencies involved. Being in the public safety field and being on duty last night for the murder of the MIT officer, carjacking and subsequent shootout / explosion tossing and gunning down of SP #1 made for one of the craziest nights and days today that I've ever been on for.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I lived about 4 houses down on that same street 3 years ago. Great work by all agencies involved. Being in the public safety field and being on duty last night for the murder of the MIT officer, carjacking and subsequent shootout / explosion tossing and gunning down of SP #1 made for one of the craziest nights and days today that I've ever been on for.

I lived on Norfolk Street myself a long time ago, about a block and a half from Central Square. It's my understanding that I wouldn't want to live there nowadays.

Well, an interesting aspect of this sad event was the 2 suspects' Uncle who is Chechnian and Muslim, vehemently denounced his 2 nephews.

I think this proves that Radical Islam is a loud Minority stewing trouble around the world targeting the west. And people like his Uncle are part of the quiet majority of Muslims wanting to peacefully live their lives without confrontation. We are being attacked, and those attacking us are of the Radical element. Radical anything is not good.

Exactly. Very well put.

 

[Special K]

That's putting it nicely by not wanting to live there now. Lol. These clowns lived on the other end of Norfolk St, by the Somerville line.