Wasted time.....
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At the end of last summer i happen to be in Mtl for a few days & since it's been quite a while since i haven't felt like calling for some company i decided to check out this site to see who's available. So as usual i mostly look up the top 3-4 agencies' rosters. On one of them one catches my eye. I then check her other pictures on the agency's website and they look good. Damn good. So i make the call and she'll show up in two hours when her shift begins. Since i'm fairly rusty not having ordered takeout in over 6 months (maybe more) i start going through my usual routine of having several refreshments available and figuring out what i'll wear. The bed is already made so no reason to make it again. Get the music ready on my ipad. Call my buddy to tell him about my impending 'date' and tell him i'll get in touch with him once my 'date' leaves. Reason for this is that he likely will call me not knowing i'm with someone and it'll kill the mood. Half hour left so it's shower time. After i'm all dressed up one last look at her pictures in order to give me a good idea what to expect & for mental preparation. Then about 10 minutes after the scheduled appointment the knock on the door is finally heard.
Standing before me is a shorter-than-i-expected young brunette wearing a baseball cap and glasses. The baseball cap kind of throws me off since from my perspective it takes away her femininity and makes her look very tomboyish. She looks nothing like the sexy girl pics on the agency's website. I offer to take care of her jacket for her and she tells me she needs to get rid of her gum. We sit down at the edge of the bed and i initiate the conversation. I have no memory of what was said since i don't recall the last time i met someone so uninteresting to speak with. I do remember her telling me that she had been in a relationship for the past few weeks and that her new boyfriend was her driver and that she wasn't sure how long she'd be able to keep on working in this business. Maybe that's why i found her somewhat distant and things didn't change much once i finally started to initiate things.
She totally was not into it. I don't know if it had to do with her having a boyfriend or not but i probably would have got more action/reaction from a rubber doll. The lame bbbj was more hj. Little pecks on the lips. Everything felt forced. I don't even remember if i was able to get her completely out of her clothes or not. I don't even remember if i had booked for an hour or 90 minutes (which i often do when seeing someone new) but it felt like an eternity. With 15 minutes left to go i told her it was okay to go take her shower if she wanted so she did. I knew things wouldn't go much further than they already did. I simply was no longer into it but for me to be into it i need a willing partner....not just someone going through the motions. No big deal and it confirmed to me that i haven't missed much when it comes to ordering take-out. I forgot her name a few days after having seen her. She was just a blur. In my heyday i've had a couple of 'dates' where i literally felt was a total waste of time but it seems that i've been on a roll over the past 2-3 years. Have things changed so much over the past decade or two or am i the one who has? Maybe it's both.
Standing before me is a shorter-than-i-expected young brunette wearing a baseball cap and glasses. The baseball cap kind of throws me off since from my perspective it takes away her femininity and makes her look very tomboyish. She looks nothing like the sexy girl pics on the agency's website. I offer to take care of her jacket for her and she tells me she needs to get rid of her gum. We sit down at the edge of the bed and i initiate the conversation. I have no memory of what was said since i don't recall the last time i met someone so uninteresting to speak with. I do remember her telling me that she had been in a relationship for the past few weeks and that her new boyfriend was her driver and that she wasn't sure how long she'd be able to keep on working in this business. Maybe that's why i found her somewhat distant and things didn't change much once i finally started to initiate things.
She totally was not into it. I don't know if it had to do with her having a boyfriend or not but i probably would have got more action/reaction from a rubber doll. The lame bbbj was more hj. Little pecks on the lips. Everything felt forced. I don't even remember if i was able to get her completely out of her clothes or not. I don't even remember if i had booked for an hour or 90 minutes (which i often do when seeing someone new) but it felt like an eternity. With 15 minutes left to go i told her it was okay to go take her shower if she wanted so she did. I knew things wouldn't go much further than they already did. I simply was no longer into it but for me to be into it i need a willing partner....not just someone going through the motions. No big deal and it confirmed to me that i haven't missed much when it comes to ordering take-out. I forgot her name a few days after having seen her. She was just a blur. In my heyday i've had a couple of 'dates' where i literally felt was a total waste of time but it seems that i've been on a roll over the past 2-3 years. Have things changed so much over the past decade or two or am i the one who has? Maybe it's both.
Let me be clear: my darling is quite service oriented. Spectacular BBBJ. She works the shaft and gives pretty good attention to the boys with BLS. Incorporates just enough use of her hand. Prior to it’s commencement she asks if you would like to go down on her, if the answer is no she starts grinding the shit out of you (not the safest, I realize) and DFK is quite readily available. During positions, including mishy, again, DFK is always there. She is not mechanical, not going through the motions. She is well reviewed and most reviews are stellar. I just can’t find a way through her stall techniques other than looking really desperate? Please help me someone
There are couple of good comments in this thread making me cracking up...very entertaining,
(Although the topic is fairly serious one to the OP).
In this case, as I see, it was definitely stalling tactic, most probably most of us have gone through this routine, if
the guy is "Participating" in the conversation, then all the merrier to her, longer the talk, shorter the main action, maybe
this is good for girls who are just in it for "Easy money" where they don't care or not in it to provide GFE (Or PSE)
services. I was in similar situation few times and at the end I just said lets go and start what you have to do and lets get
over with it (With fairly serious tone) . Needles to say, they were not the best encounters.
After a certain talk time, especially a long one, the girl should be initiating things (Or take the hints) instead of making
the guy "Bag" to start the action. In this case I would have gone for 5 min BBBJ instead going for the DATY
and NO WAY I would be repeating with a girl like this.
Also, I mentioned "Participating" above, conversing between two people, the worst stalling tactics that I have
experienced were some long long showers before the start of the sessions, had no idea WTF they were doing
in those 15 to 20 min showers, but at the end the deed was done they were gone not
to be repeated ever again.
I have had actions started within 5 sec of the coming face to face (Her choice) and I have some actions started
after 15, 20 or 30 min after getting together, talk and drink time, I think I have developed a fairly good reputation with
the ladies and how I conduct myself so I leave up to the girls when they are ready to proceed and start things,
although its not my business how people run their business / encounters but I don't think you can put a time/ time limit as
at what point you have to get to know the person or find out if you would click with that person or not.
Rose: Although I'm using your quote but its not directed to you personally or meant any harm, just using it since
there was time limit mentioned for chatting. As I have been told by some girls, some guys are not into chatting / talking
and they want to use their 60 or so min just for the purpose what they are paying for.
So what happened, you got screwed again?...................Or, not!
So if you do not want the cab driver to take you on the long way again next time, make sure you know the route before you get into the taxi. You were in charge, but you did not know it. Get down to business tight away, that's how I do it and that is why I am there.
So if you do not want the cab driver to take you on the long way again next time, make sure you know the route before you get into the taxi. You were in charge, but you did not know it. Get down to business tight away, that's how I do it and that is why I am there.
Hmm seems the OP did not take the lead. He was too passive. Cannot comment on the girl but young inexperienced girls tend to be passive. Some girls might also stall and many of their clients are shy so often they might get away with it. My suggestion is to take the lead and get things going.
Great post. That first paragraph is me waiting for an outcall.
The second paragraph is disturbing. Why the hell are agency owners allowing girls to show up so casual? What happened to the dress sexy look? You show up wearing a ball cap and sneakers and chewing gum talking about your boyfriend? This is a dangerous trend.
What happened to the dress sexy look????
Back in the day, girls dressed like they were going out on a date? This is the biggest pet peeve of mine. Is it the agencies that do incall outcall or is it all agencies? I remember Chris the Devil enforced a dress sexy policy and I remember the Eleganza girls all showed up looking elegant. And don't tell me it's about not wanting to draw attention to ones self.
You draw more attention dressing like a slob. I think it is a matter of laziness and bad management. What is happening? Maybe these are incall girls that spent the last 4 hours in various states of undress and they get an outcall date and throw on a pair of sweats and a ball cap and head out to make a quick call and they never had time to make themselves up because they spent half the day on their backs?
I had an XO girl come in for an early morning appointment. She was wearing a T-shirt, yoga pants and minimal make up. Literally probably rolled outta bed and into the shower. She looked like a hot young thing and performed like a superstar. Her look was simple and she looked great. It was Katie @ XO. Some chics can absolutely pull off the simple yet beautiful look.
Would direct you to Lexis of euphoria my friend. Looked like a complete knock out both times I saw her. Dressed quite conservatively yet looked amazing. Like literally what a chic would look like if she was heading out on a date. Kinda hard to explain
I love it when they dress like they have just stepped out of a fashion magazine.
I don’t think there are many that dress as well as Gabrielle Garnier and Katrinagirl, I guess Brazilians just love to look elegant and feminine and sexy as hell at the same time. I have not seen Sasha but judging from her Twitter photographs she is another stunner in her outfits.
I don’t consider a girl dressing up to please a waste of time at all.
I am with Hungry I love a woman that takes the time to glam it up and looks like a million bucks.
I don’t think there are many that dress as well as Gabrielle Garnier and Katrinagirl, I guess Brazilians just love to look elegant and feminine and sexy as hell at the same time. I have not seen Sasha but judging from her Twitter photographs she is another stunner in her outfits.
I don’t consider a girl dressing up to please a waste of time at all.
I am with Hungry I love a woman that takes the time to glam it up and looks like a million bucks.
Sasha when I saw her a couple of years ago, I was her last client of a 11-5 shift if I remember correctly. She had to go home pick up an outfit for a role play and rush to make our appointment on time. She was exhausted, I was her last client, but once she walked through the door totally in character (the way she will tell U she loves to do role play) and completely dismantled me over the course of the appointment. absolutely no stalling
^^^up 2 - Gabrielle Garnier is a fasionista and I love it. I think she out on 3 different pieces of lingerie for me and she arrived wearing a tight dress. Incredible.
^^^up 1 - Hanna/Sasha wore a pencil skirt and a tight white blouse and glasses and went right into role play. I'm afraid to repeat with either.
^^^up 1 - Hanna/Sasha wore a pencil skirt and a tight white blouse and glasses and went right into role play. I'm afraid to repeat with either.
I guess it is what ever turns you on and what some consider wasting time others enjoy.
I remember Maria Divina another who by the way is so elegant and classy in the way she dresses and carries herself and if you like mature women she has one of the prettiest faces I have seen.
With her I kind of don’t want to end the conversation, she is smart, interesting and has a sense of humour and this quirkiness about her, she actually talks the same way she writes and that French accent of hers is so fabulous to listen to.
I could enjoy talking to this amazing lady for hours, she is just so pleasant to be with, but then again she is also so talented otherwise as well.
I remember Maria Divina another who by the way is so elegant and classy in the way she dresses and carries herself and if you like mature women she has one of the prettiest faces I have seen.
With her I kind of don’t want to end the conversation, she is smart, interesting and has a sense of humour and this quirkiness about her, she actually talks the same way she writes and that French accent of hers is so fabulous to listen to.
I could enjoy talking to this amazing lady for hours, she is just so pleasant to be with, but then again she is also so talented otherwise as well.
Remember guys that some folks only want "companionship" so it is very possible in some case an SP can assume thats what is gonna happen.
Personally i like a good middle, i enjoy SOME chat (between 5 and 10) to break the ice, but if i see by the 15 mins mark no action as started i will mention it. A way to say it "nicely" is "i really enjoy talking with you, but we only have an hour, and im no "minute man" , all with a smile and it should be fine. Or you can say "you look super hot, im eager to see you naked" or anything that look a bit playfull and show you want to get into action.
Chemistry is a double edge sword, no chemistry and not knowing what to say make it so awkward and im honestly less turned on, no matter how hot she look, cause i feel she just don't want to be there.
Too much chemistry and i have a tendancy to turn into a chatterbox, so i make sure now to have eyes on the clock so i don't exceed that 15 mins.
I always book 1h so i know my time is counted and therefore i usually don't go for any extra fluff. I get some of you guys like to have wine and such and its totally fine but for me its not needed. Its not im not interested in the girl, but i pay good money for that 1h, so even tough im not looking to have 55 mins of sex, i don't want 15 mins either. I want a solid 40 mins. That give plenty of time for intro chat + her shower at the end. If she really enjoy my company, she is welcome to stay on her own lol, but thats not what I pay for. (and if its your thing, thats alright too, to each their own)
I rarely do incalls but when i do (i know you have the dos equis guy image in mind now lol) the first thing i do is tell the girl i will go in the shower. I know its not everybodies case but i really don't like much to start sex while being wet or even "dried by a towell". So once im out of the shower ill need 5/10 mins anyway before it start, so i rather have the shower part done the soonest possible.
In term of a 30 mins session, i would have to "cope with it" because 30 mins is so short... Im thinking of trying that this summer. I got 3 trips to Montreal planned 3 months in a row (please Ozzy stay healthy) so im thinking of doing 30 mins incalls to save cost. Ill try first with someone i seen already so i can gauge easier if it will be "enough for me" then if it work, with someone i never met. Im assuming if they offer 30 mins rate, that mean they do these sessions regulary so they probably expect it will be more of a "wam bam" session. I am guessing they won't be offended by wanting the action to start right away after shower.
I had an SP be surprise i wanted to talk at first last year, im assuming there is a lot of you guys like that. Personally 20 mins is not enough for me. I need at least 30 mins and would rather take an hour, otherwise ill be "semi-hard" and all ill be able to get is a BJ during round 2. So i usually just go for the homerun (all bases in one go) and i just make it last the longest possible. Im pretty good usually at not cumming if i don't want to.
Anyway, sorry about the rambling, but i guess to finish this too long post my advice would be to just let her know right away what type of session you want, every client is different. I been too shy with SPs for too long and now i remember some sessions that could/should had go differently if i wouldn't had been so damn shy. You pay lot of money for that time, so make it count. Obviously in respect, but i mean don't be too shy, just communicate.
Personally i like a good middle, i enjoy SOME chat (between 5 and 10) to break the ice, but if i see by the 15 mins mark no action as started i will mention it. A way to say it "nicely" is "i really enjoy talking with you, but we only have an hour, and im no "minute man" , all with a smile and it should be fine. Or you can say "you look super hot, im eager to see you naked" or anything that look a bit playfull and show you want to get into action.
Chemistry is a double edge sword, no chemistry and not knowing what to say make it so awkward and im honestly less turned on, no matter how hot she look, cause i feel she just don't want to be there.
Too much chemistry and i have a tendancy to turn into a chatterbox, so i make sure now to have eyes on the clock so i don't exceed that 15 mins.
I always book 1h so i know my time is counted and therefore i usually don't go for any extra fluff. I get some of you guys like to have wine and such and its totally fine but for me its not needed. Its not im not interested in the girl, but i pay good money for that 1h, so even tough im not looking to have 55 mins of sex, i don't want 15 mins either. I want a solid 40 mins. That give plenty of time for intro chat + her shower at the end. If she really enjoy my company, she is welcome to stay on her own lol, but thats not what I pay for. (and if its your thing, thats alright too, to each their own)
I rarely do incalls but when i do (i know you have the dos equis guy image in mind now lol) the first thing i do is tell the girl i will go in the shower. I know its not everybodies case but i really don't like much to start sex while being wet or even "dried by a towell". So once im out of the shower ill need 5/10 mins anyway before it start, so i rather have the shower part done the soonest possible.
In term of a 30 mins session, i would have to "cope with it" because 30 mins is so short... Im thinking of trying that this summer. I got 3 trips to Montreal planned 3 months in a row (please Ozzy stay healthy) so im thinking of doing 30 mins incalls to save cost. Ill try first with someone i seen already so i can gauge easier if it will be "enough for me" then if it work, with someone i never met. Im assuming if they offer 30 mins rate, that mean they do these sessions regulary so they probably expect it will be more of a "wam bam" session. I am guessing they won't be offended by wanting the action to start right away after shower.
I had an SP be surprise i wanted to talk at first last year, im assuming there is a lot of you guys like that. Personally 20 mins is not enough for me. I need at least 30 mins and would rather take an hour, otherwise ill be "semi-hard" and all ill be able to get is a BJ during round 2. So i usually just go for the homerun (all bases in one go) and i just make it last the longest possible. Im pretty good usually at not cumming if i don't want to.
Anyway, sorry about the rambling, but i guess to finish this too long post my advice would be to just let her know right away what type of session you want, every client is different. I been too shy with SPs for too long and now i remember some sessions that could/should had go differently if i wouldn't had been so damn shy. You pay lot of money for that time, so make it count. Obviously in respect, but i mean don't be too shy, just communicate.
Chris had a no-jeans rule for every one of his agencies. When the girls would tell me this i would kind of find this rule a bit corny. But as time went on i totally got it and Chris was 100% correct about enforcing that rule. Same thing with the earlier 'ladies' that i saw through various hdh agencies. Most of the girls were dressed to the max & looked very sexy & feminine. This is what stood those agencies from the rest. Same thing with most of the indys i used to see back then. The fact they took care of their overall attire & wanted to look their best was greatly appreciated by me. And it felt like i was also being rewarded for also doing my best to look & smell good for them. It made me go the extra mile in looking to either spoil them with an unexpected small gift or the type of refreshments i'd get before the 'date'.
Nowadays the girls i see at any convenience store or Walmart don't seem much different than the ones who show up at my door. Speaking of attire i remember one time many years ago when a young lady showed up at my room (at the Vogue) wearing ski pants! I kid you not: ski pants! On top of that her zipper had broke and she had to hold her zipper when she walked or else she'd lose her ski pants! I remember being a tad surprised when i opened the door and her walking in: "What the hell is that?", i asked her. "What do you mean?", she replied. "What are you wearing??", i said again. She replied 'ski pants'. And a year or so later i saw a girl from my then-favorite hdh agency (Mtl Girlfriends) and until then all the girls looked hot & were dressed to the max. I assumed that this came with the territory for the surplus amount of $$ that i was paying for their company. But then one night one of their girls shows up wearing jeans and sweatshirt. Right away she noticed the look of surprise i had when i saw her attire. She told me that she was at home watching the hockey game with her boyfriend when she got the call and didn't have time to fully get ready for our 'date' so she put on a pair of jeans, sweatshirt and minimal makeup and headed over. I remember as we started to get one another better one of her questions to me was: "So are you the type of guy who fucks a girl once & she doesn't hear from you again?" Needless to say the date wasn't exactly off to a great start especially considering the amount of $$ i was dishing out to usually have someone show up looking her very best. However this opened my eyes and i started mostly using better known low-end agencies from now on & saving a bundle in the process.
ha ha, I'm loving it! I'm doing exactly that scenario with a regular tonight. We are only entitled to say hello and bye bye, in between only kinky words will be allowed.
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