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^ Now that's a real cat talking, take notes boys.

I gladly DESTROY with pleasure the livelyhood of someone who doesn't deserve it. I have done it in the past and will do it again if necessary.

Fuck man, stop forgetting this Icon ":cool:" after a statement like that!
 

cloudsurf

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As for you saying that you don`t want to hurt the girl`s business with a negative review, this is bullshit. You made some really negative comments about Sophie Lee and I am sure it affected her business
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I made a negative comment...it was not a review...and you agreed with me you f&kin hypocrite.
While I won`t write negative reviews, no-matter how unfair some of you think that is, I do post negative comments when I feel something important has to be pointed out. Those who don`t like my decision should stop reading my posts.
As of now there will be no more reviews coming from me.
Mod 8 please ask Fred to delete all my reviews
 

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Balancing fairness (for providers and fellow board members)

Negative reviews are as important to the community as favorable reviews, if not more so. (snip) Not posting such reviews may cost your fellow MERB members money that they could otherwise have spent elsewhere. One day the member that gets burned may be yourself. (snip) Such things should be dealt with directly with the provider concerned and if compensation has been offered, that information should be included in the body of the review. When compensation is given for a poor encounter, it should not be given in exchange for the review being withheld, changed or deleted.
I agree with all of this wholeheartedly.

Let's take a hypothetical case: Mavis of Montreal Sin Palace :D. So, her pictures are amazing, she is new and not reviewed. A string of well-known reviewers decide to TOFTT and end up having a so-so time. They have enough experience to know the problem isn't them, that the girl is not cut out for this and it won't get much better. Yet, they decide not to post a review at all. So Mavis keeps reeling them in...

I can fully understand anyone not wanting to jeopardize a girl's livelihood, when they think the problem was temporary. Escorting is a peculiar job and chemistry will always play a part, want it or not. But it cannot be used as an excuse for lousy dates over and over :nono:.

P.S.: my dad wore Old Spice. I don't buy my aftershave where they have toothpaste.

P.P.S.: the tone of this discussion is turning nasty. A member who has written numerous reviews is fed up enough to quit. Others are thumping their chests and using disparaging names (hoes, etc.) just to get their point across (BTW, any girl who really deserves to be called that will never get my dick hard). GROW UP!
 

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I made a negative comment...it was not a review...and you agreed with me you f&kin hypocrite.
While I won`t write negative reviews, no-matter how unfair some of you think that is, I do post negative comments when I feel something important has to be pointed out. Those who don`t like my decision should stop reading my posts.
As of now there will be no more reviews coming from me.
Mod 8 please ask Fred to delete all my reviews

I`ll admit to only reading a few pages of this thread. My reaction is twofold. One extreme satisfaction in knowing that the old saying still applies that ``you reap what you sow``. The other being amusement that a thread can degenerate without my help all together.

Another old saying is ``divide and conquer``. This is exactly what`s occurred. In the original days of Canbest the clients would argue, but at least supported one another when it came to reviews. It was recognized that the need to be critical was a responsibility you shared with other posters. The general need for secrecy of one`s identity was part of the quality control process. In the end the need for mutual support part of the experience. While I would imagine that at least one or two agency owners and/or SPs did end up posting, it was the exception rather than the rule. The constant petty fighting of egos was less apparent AND THE MODERATOR PRETTY MUCH STAYED OUT OF THINGS. How was this accomplished? The agencies knew very little of our identities, they rarely if ever posted. The SPs almost never posted, there was not as much b/c gossiping. What the agencies have learned is to get into the thick of things, allow our own egos to keep us fighting and debating, use b/c to create & promote rumors, etc....etc...etc.. Clients would never have mentioned posting or on what board to an SP/agency.

It`s sad that the top hit on the phrase (on Google) ``Canbest`` now promotes glazing materials for buildings....LOL

The reason I stopped writing reviews: It became more trouble than it was worth. Someone on this board always had a vested interest in some agency and/or SP. Any negative comment was immediately called into question by another, thus resulting in a personal attack of some type. I can remember being threatened b/c by another poster if I wrote a negative review about a particular popular SP.

But I do want to congratulate Moderator 8 here for creating such a Politically Correct Board.
 

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I made a negative comment...it was not a review...and you agreed with me you f&kin hypocrite.

LOL, you really need help with understanding English! I wrote a negative review on her because I write both negative and positive reviews? So where is the hypocrisy? The only hypocrisy lies in the fact that you claim to never wanting to ruin a girl`s livelihood with a negative review, and yet you destroyed Sophie Lee with a negative comment. So obviously it`s not a girl`s career that you are worried about. Just tell us what it is bro?

Whether I agreed with your comment or not, has nothing to do with the point being made.

Please don`t delete any of his glowing reviews, how could we possibly survive without them:rolleyes:

You still didn`t answer my question.

Don`t panic son, just think before you say shit otherwise smart people begin to rise and this can cause a riot where you wish you could just disappear.

No one here is attacking you, we are just arguing your claims and ideas.
 

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I can fully understand anyone not wanting to jeopardize a girl's livelihood, when they think the problem was temporary. Escorting is a peculiar job and chemistry will always play a part, want it or not. But it cannot be used as an excuse for lousy dates over and over :nono:.

Yes, I think it’s all about balance.
When it’s all good or all bad its straightforward to write a review.
But when it’s a mixed review, it’s more tricky to get it right. I don’t want to hurt their business more then they deserve. Personnaly I feel more sympathy toward escorts because they are people I’ve met and been intimate with, while people on the board are unknown strangers. So when in doubt I will tend to go more easy on the ladies.

I think everyone should go with how they are comfortable. The way to achieve balance is to have everyone pulling in a different direction.
 

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I'm amazed at the timidity of some of my fellow whoremongers. Afraid of having their presumably anonymous handles flamed by other anonymous entities; afraid of hurting the business of someone who just ripped you off; afraid of offending some pimp by telling the truth about one of the latter's employees.

As I've said before, we are here to rent pussy - not be one.

anon, that post was concise... honest... and everything i would've liked to have said 1st. :thumb:
i read revu's that read like a write-in contest for penthouse forum... that's fine from time to time but when that seems to be the only type of revu a merbite can produce, there's usually little to no useful info to gleen from the post. it reads like a "i'm here to kiss [insert agency owner's name here] ass and collect my next merbite discount"...

i'm not against revu's that look like a romance novel, but it should be realistic in that there must've been something that could've been better, an ounce of critical thinking not just "i'm in love for the 10th time this week" kind of fluff.
 

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...The general need for secrecy of one's identity was part of the quality control process. In the end the need for mutual support part of the experience.

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The reason I stopped writing reviews: It became more trouble than it was worth. Someone on this board always had a vested interest in some agency and/or SP. Any negative comment was immediately called into question by another, thus resulting in a personal attack of some type. I can remember being threatened b/c by another poster if I wrote a negative review about a particular popular SP.

hey CS, great comments and it's unfortunate we lost your revu's because of some bitter nutjob trolling for a fight with you.

over the past couple of yrs since following merb more closely as my hobbying freq'cy increased, i've really noticed the "shill-slant" by a number of merbites with that all too polite tone in their post that desperately tries to avoid offending an agency. merbites need to remember that a negative comment about a girl or a raging negative revu only leads to better experiences for all.

if we weed out the crackhead, ultra-YMMV, ugly-think-they're-cute girls... well, clients are happier (we get good service/experience) and agencies spend less time dealing with issues (focus more time on earning + booking + hiring new talent).
 

evillethings

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... P.S.: my dad wore Old Spice. I don't buy my aftershave where they have toothpaste.

:lol: seinfeldesque humor!

...P.P.S.: the tone of this discussion is turning nasty. A member who has written numerous reviews is fed up enough to quit. Others are thumping their chests and using disparaging names (hoes, etc.) just to get their point across (BTW, any girl who really deserves to be called that will never get my dick hard). GROW UP!

i'm in agreement SM! :thumb:
 

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Beyond the fact that the lack (or sheer absence) of negative reviews may be - in the long run - detrimental to a review forum, there is another thing that is quite as bad: false eulogical reviews (either done by shills or whithe knights).

Last Monday (January 16th), I had a session with a well-known (and very appreciated) escort in Montreal (I won't disclose her name because I didn't post yet a review of my session. I'll do it maybe later) and she said to me that she was sometimes upset by the inaccuracy that were reported in the posts that were written about her. Some posters distort the reality when they post a review: they tend to exaggerate either their performance (in fact, they were unable to come and they write that they came twice in different position) or the service that they received. I think that this is worst than a negative review.

There are three types (or sorts) of things that are detrimental to a board

1) Reviews that are too positive and inaccurate
2) Reviews that are too negative with the intent to destroy a reputation or too complain about a bad session (because there was no chemistry between the two)
3) Absence of review: As you may already know, I'm more active in the Brazilian Review Forum than on this one. There the type of member that is more despised are so-called « sonegador » (i.e. people concealing or witholding information). A sonegador is like someone pilfering or stealing tax money... (Mea culpa, finally I realized that I should write a fair and honest review of my date with the escort I saw last Monday)
 

evillethings

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... Unlike ManApart, I don`t review every girl I see...
you bastard... lol

...The good sessions get reviewed, and for the most part will be positive.
The mediocre and poor sessions don`t get reviewed , simply because I don`t enjoy writing negative commentary.
If her attitude is realy bad then I take it up with the agency...
i didn't realize cloud.
that's your choice but it'd be valuable commentary for us on merb to hear about the "bad". i've never proactively bothered advising an agency of a negative encounter because unless you are a super regular booking girls for multiple hours weekly and make up a noticable percentage of the agency's revenue, what is an owner gonna do... mark a big red X beside your name or on their girl's imaginary report card? i prefer dealing with it in the session and if it's clear the girl doesn't think she needs to put in the appropriate amount of effort, i deal with things there and then and report back to merbites here following the session.

LM had a good point (buried in his hate posts) likening hobbying reviews to Resto reviews. we need the bad / negative reviews posted here more than the positive ones. let's face it, a guy can turn any encounter with a girl into something positive especially if she gets naked and is open to various holes being explored/plugged + unplugged. :cool:
 

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When you know the agency owners (I know most if not all the advertisers on Merb), and they trust your opinion, then action follows a legitimate complaint.
BTW I do give positive and negative reviews on restaurants, but not on public boards. Again its a matter of personal taste....same for a woman.
 

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LOL, you really need help with understanding English! I wrote a negative review on her because I write both negative and positive reviews? So where is the hypocrisy? The only hypocrisy lies in the fact that you claim to never wanting to ruin a girl's livelihood with a negative review, and yet you destroyed Sophie Lee with a negative comment. So obviously it's not a girl's career that you are worried about. Just tell us what it is bro?

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Lol...get real man....one negative comment by me destroys someone`s reputation more than a negative review by you.
How dumb and so unfair to your reputation as a legit reviewer.
Reply to me after your ban expires sweetie
 

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. Others are thumping their chests and using disparaging names (hoes, etc.) just to get their point across (BTW, any girl who really deserves to be called that will never get my dick hard). GROW UP!

Ok easy there man. Don`t quote a partial sentence and spin it like a political campaign manager. In the context where service is bad or pics are fake or services are falsely advertised or price is ridiculous compared to much better competition then of course the SP is guilty of such things as being a lying or rippoff hoe.

Don`t be so sensitive. Whether you employ the word companion, escort, SP, provider, prostitute, slut, whore, hoe..... It`s still basically all the same, like it or not. Does the woman have sex with multiple men of various ages and appearances in exchange for money or does she not?

Some men have the utmost respect for escorts and some don`t. Having low respect for an escort is fine as long as you don`t promote or engage in verbally or physically abusing them. It`s just a job to to them and they have a personal life and/or lovelife UNLIKE MANY HOBBYISTS LOL. Some people do the opposite and glorify them instead for reasons that have nothing to do with their looks and sexual skills which is the foundation of being an escort.

P.S. i don t need to thump my chest. I`m just a straight up non-hypocrite person that was never afraid to speak his mind. If you take things out of context. It doesn t change nothing in my life inside or outside of the hobby.

Also, some hobbyists want a dirty hoe because they have a classy woman at home. It gets their dick hard. To each his own as they say.

Conclusion: Just follow the reviews of someone who shares your tastes. If member A gives a good review and you like the girl as well. Trust him. If member B gives a good review about a girl you did not like. Don t trust him. Case closed.

Sapman: Look at Tiger Woods. Cheated on a blonde classy supermodel he was married to with a milf trashy uglier pornstar because she was a dirty hoe that took it up the ass and swallowed cum. LOL
 

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I just want to add a quick note to acknowledge all those who have weighed in here. It's quite heartening to learn that I'm not the only one who is bothered by reviews and comments that reek of sucking up to the agency operators. (I might add that it probably doesn't work; after all, what girl likes a brown nose between her legs?)
 

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Reply to me after your ban expires sweetie

He didn't get banned over you just in case you believe so. He was just challenging your point about not posting negative reviews. Your claim was you are worried about the livelyhood of the girl. What about the livelyhood of the merbite who spends money he doesn't have because people are not warning fellow members about bad or mediocre or rippoff or overpriced providers....

Or is it you do not want to post negative reviews out of fears of a rebuttal by an indie or agency???

If you only say nice things about a provider, obviously they will only say nice things about you.

Let's keep it real gents. Good or bad.
 

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what about the livelyhood of the merbite who spends money he doesn't have because people are not warning fellow members about bad or mediocre or rippoff or overpriced providers....

Or is it you do not want to post negative reviews out of fears of a rebuttal by an indie or agency???.
Nailed it once. Nailed it twice.
 

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i read revu's that read like a write-in contest for penthouse forum... that's fine from time to time but when that seems to be the only type of revu a merbite can produce, there's usually little to no useful info to gleen from the post. it reads like a "i'm here to kiss [insert agency owner's name here] ass and collect my next merbite discount"...

i'm not against revu's that look like a romance novel, but it should be realistic in that there must've been something that could've been better, an ounce of critical thinking not just "i'm in love for the 10th time this week" kind of fluff.

When I write a novel its because its deserved (IMO).
Standard service earns a small paragraph.
C3PO with a bad wig gets 20 words or less.
 

CS Martin

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Barf!!! Posters who'd rather set some BS list of what they do and how you're supposed to follow their track record. Barf!! Sorry, doesn't cut it for the newbie. Thought a review board was all about making sure the SPs were properly, fully and honestly reviewed. It's a pompus ass that wants to be followed rather than caring about anyone wasting their money. You write as much of a review as needs to be written to fully and completely review the SP. You do a good SP a favor by doing so, conversely advise the agency operator when he's got a cold fish. Some reviewers seem to think holding the good ones "close to their vest" (i.e. secret or limited info) will keep them available. Has anyone thought that the free sharing of info to help your fellow hobbiest might increase competition among providers thereby creating a better more dependable supply? The converse is exhibited by the mere existance of this thread.

Before I stopped writing reviews, this was my main concern. I remembered before I wasn't able to afford $,$$$ from my annual budget to "enjoy myself". It was with this concern that we used to clear the way for newbies. Stop and read this thread, seeing nothing but attitude..........

Now back to our regularly scheduled idiocy already in progress.......:crazy:
 
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