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sambuca

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If most clients tend to seek the skinny white girls, agencies are going to do their best to meet that demand.

Thin, hot blondes are the fuckin' bomb everywhere in the world. You look at the buzz anywhere..........London, NYC, Frankfurt, Moscow, Sao Paulo and even Shanghai and Hong Kong where they import them in from Russia..........Hot blondes are fully booked and commanding high prices. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not even saying it's me. However, there is a freakish gene in most men's heads and penises that command them to fuck hot, blonde women.
 

AdeleBeaumont

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Ultimately it is a business and such determinations do get made. Obviously they are subjective to some extent although in the case I mentioned above I happened to know the agency owner personally and I am pretty sure he made a judgment call on rejecting that lady that he believed was in the agency’s best interest.

It's shouldn't be surprising that agencies tend to hire women who they feel will appeal to most clients

What can be racist are the hiring policy in place. Refusing to hire any black escort because you believe beforehand she will not do well is indeed racist.


I do understand this is a business and that it should be handled as such, therefore sometimes choices have to be made to respect the wishes and needs of the clientele. Where I think it's not ok is when I am told that I can't even have a chance because some black woman f*cked up 3 years ago.

We are both black but I am not her and she is not me. I think it's unfair but oh well, what can I do? *shrugs*
 

CLOUD 500

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Yes the major ones, the reputables ones but sadly those are the agencies that won't take you if you are black.

I am only interested in Black or Latina women which is why I never use Merb agencies. They decided for you that the girl you can book is pure Laine White but myself I got zero interest in those types of women. With the passing of years we see less and less exotic women. I remember five years ago every agency at least had some dark skinned woman now they are almost none existent. I found other options. I strictly have stripper take outs so agencies are not even a concern to me now. I do not like dealing with Merb Indys personally since there is too much difficulty to book one. Too much screening for example. I got no references to provide for example since I never seen an Indy so I just skip it. And often Indys pricing is out of my range. I get far better pricing with strippers.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
What can be racist are the hiring policy in place. Refusing to hire any black escort because you believe beforehand she will not do well is indeed racist.

Uhhhh, wrong. Hate it when the racist cards gets pulled. If you are a store selling balls and you have blue, orange and green ones. The orange balls sell like crazy, the the others minimal, some days no sales and storage is not free. You have been selling balls for years and have tried various shades of blue and figure not many people want blue balls ( slipped a joke I'm there). A sales person comes in and offers a different blue ball for sale, do you take it or pass?
Leave the bullshit racist card out of this.
 

CLOUD 500

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What can be racist are the hiring policy in place. Refusing to hire any black escort because you believe beforehand she will not do well is indeed racist. You can worship at the alter of profit all you like. Doesn't change shit. Good business decision. Still racist. How one lady did in the past is not reflective of how a new lady will do in the future. Even more so when the agencies almost never have black escorts anyway.

I agree. They basically decided for you what you can book. Most stripclubs are also have a racist hiring policy they implement a non white girl quota. I noticed most clubs hiring policy is based on the personal preference of the manager. But you see ppl like me avoid those clubs and go to clubs where there are a lot of black girls. Same principal. The agencies hire white girls only well black lovers look elsewhere so if one agency decides to hire a black girl she does not do well because the market was already established for white girls. I have not used Merb agency in years. I already have other options for black girls. Even if an agency has one I will probably not book as I already got my regulars and potentials.
 

louee47

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If you are working for an outcall only agency, it might be difficult to see another girl do better than you. Imagine spending 5 hours in a call and not being busy at all. Sometimes ladies will start talking behind your back etc.

Je crois que les expériences de chacunes sont différentes. Pour avoir travaillé dans une agence, il n'y avait pas cette compétition. Enfin, je ne l'ai jamais sentie, au contraire. Et notre "gérant" ne nous mettait pas vraiment de pression, il était hyper compréhensif et respectueux et voulait qu'il y ait une harmonie entre nous. Au moins qu'on puisse se supporter toute une soirée. Ça fait toute la différence.
 

AdeleBeaumont

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I got no references to provide for example since I never seen an Indy so I just skip it. And often Indys pricing is out of my range. I get far better pricing with strippers.

This is why I keep my donations close to agencies donations. While I am happy to provide references for other SP, I don't ask for references when booking.


Je crois que les expériences de chacunes sont différentes.

Effectivement, c'est pour ça que je donne mon opinion et que je ne peux pas parler pour tout le monde. Je ne connais pas les expériences de chacun et chacune
 

ShyMan

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Hate it when the racist cards gets pulled.

I could not agree with you more STN.

It's all about supply and demand. Demand is the primary driver in any industry and business. There's a reason we rarely see 50+ year old female providers advertising anywhere, regardless of how beautiful and "hot" they are.

I personally prefer to go through trusted Montreal agencies.

Years ago, I tried an Independent SP in Montreal (mostly out of curiosity; her donation was C$30 higher than agency ladies. She advertised on Merb. She showed up 25+ pounds heavier and 5+ years older than her photos on her website -- we had a nice long chit chat and I could not wait for the session to end. (I chalked up that expensive experience as part of my "education".) She has long since retired.

No offense to the OP, who appears very lovely but when I'm in Montreal, I have no reason to want to see any SP traveling there from else where, because the SP's in Montreal are 10 times more appealing to me. Now, if the OP were to move to Montreal, I would see her. But let's not generalize about Montreal agencies; they are not like those in TO or else where and they do not all operate the same.

Ms Jessy of the renowned Montreal Sex City regularly has ebony providers on her team. (Ms Jessy's ladies broke my cherry :cheer2:-- I discovered Montreal's GFE's first through MSC.)

I'm glad the OP continues to engage in this thread and she's doing a nice job promoting herself. She seems like a nice person whom I would enjoy meeting.
 

jalimon

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Exact Shyman and STN... When you own your own business you make the decision that are wise for you your client and your employee. That's it.

Shyman my friend the OP is from Montreal. Downtown. Upon your return to your place in your adopted city she'll be whispering you name... ;)

Cheers,
 

AdeleBeaumont

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No offense to the OP, who appears very lovely but when I'm in Montreal, I have no reason to want to see any SP traveling there from else where, because the SP's in Montreal are 10 times more appealing to me. Now, if the OP were to move to Montreal, I would see her.

Shyman my friend the OP is from Montreal. Downtown. Upon your return to your place in your adopted city she'll be whispering you name... ;)


I don't know why people assume I am not from here, I think I will have to start all my posts with "btw I am from Montreal" or change my signature to "your Montreal friend" :p
 

No_Church_InThe_Wild

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You have been selling balls for years and have tried various shades of blue and figure not many people want blue balls ( slipped a joke I'm there).
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I don’t know how you came up with this analogy STN. But somehow you made your point and in the process made me laugh aswell
@OnlyDoggy I honestly enjoy reading your thoughtful posts OD. And there is no denying that there is racism in this world we live in. But pls let’s not make this thread about that . Are agencies racially biased in hiring? Perhaps so.
But not because they are racists. It’s a business decision based on what the market needs and demands. Money doesn’t discriminate. So let’s not make everything black and white shall we . Things are never that simple.

As for the Mulatto term .I know for a fact that in many places it’s surely not viewed in a derogatory way. Not at all .
Perhaps in the states it’s viewed a bit as a racial slur. But in the politically correct bizzaro world of our neighbors many things are . To constantly worry about being politically correct can get exhausting. And I’m pretty sure that anyone who used the Mulatto term on these boards never meant to offend .
 

AdeleBeaumont

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And there is no denying that there is racism in this world we live in. But pls let’s not make this thread about that . Are agencies racially biased in hiring? Perhaps so.
But not because they are racists.

I actually don't know why this has became the main topic of this thread...I gave a bunch of reasons to why I've quit agencies. Instead of screaming racism, I've decided to go independent. Why would I stay with an agency if there's no demand or if they don't know how to advertise black women. It's pointless and everyone involved would be wasting their time.

In this business more than anywhere else, time is money.
 

ShyMan

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I don't know why people assume I am not from here

Sorry, Kyla. I was lazy. But you popped up on Merb all of a sudden in March 2019.

Your photos are delicious. I love chocolate now and then. :)

And I’m pretty sure that anyone who used the Mulatto term on these boards never meant to offend .

NCITW, you are correct my friend. That's why I love Montreal. Many of the Montreal SP's I've seen are of mixed European heritage. I'm glad we are seeing more SP's who are of Arabic heritage and Mulatto. (I in fact have a relative who is a Mulatto.) Variety is the spice of life. That's why I think "hobbying" is an appropriate term for what we do.

After having met and spoken with many local Merbites, I realize many of them enjoy seeing local Independents on a regular basis. They are lucky to have established such wonderful "long-term" relationships with local independent providers. I'm actually envious ;)
 

Valcazar

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How did this thread become about racism?
 

WilliamStub

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Seems to me like race is intertwined into the topic because it is a clear element of choice in physical attraction. In almost any other service industry it would be socially unacceptable to differentiate based on race, yet it seems obvious to me that we should all respect our personal choices of who we share our bodies with.


I agree with Patron that differentiating oneself as an agency with clearly understandable criterias that define what the agency is feels legitimate. Yet given the number of SPs that specifically do not service black clients, I can't say I'm surprised to hear of Kyla's experience on the other side of that coin. If an agency's historical clients aren't interested in non-white SPs, than it will be harder for you to fit in.


I think there is business for all skin colors to be had on both sides, and it's left to the enterprising agency, lady or gentlemen to figure how to tease out that clientele. I'm glad XO seems to disagree with the generalisation that all agencies are bad for minorities.
 
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