Winter Blues: 2012 Official Offseason Baseball Thread

[Special K]

Napoli...ARod...Jeter

My take on the Napoli signing is that the Sox may have overpaid but not egregiously by any means. I thought he would have gotten around 10-11M/year so 13M isn't that far off, besides, they have the money to spend. Statistically Napoli has absolutely pummeled the Sox in Fenway, he's a perfect fit for that park and I expect he'll be closer to his 2011 self than his 2012.

PayRod being out until July, now that's hilarious!! Not like they'll miss him that much, he's been awful the last 2 years anyway. Nunez / Chavez platoon replacing him is scary. There are so many MAJOR holes in that lineup!! Jeter being out of shape is a reach. PTI had a pic of him taken today and they believed those previous "fat" pictures of him were photoshopped, quite possibly.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Bwhahahahahahaahahah............ ya know, there are actual moments on MERB that i really do ROTFLMFAO and this was one of em :lol:
Kinda like this moment in my life:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPNpJX8b-bc

(shaughnessy, what a tool) :lol:

This just got really creepy!

 

[lgna69xxx]

Harold Reynolds said he met Jeter yesterday and said it was all bs, he is in great shape, i trust the R-man :thumb: then again i dont give a flying F what shape Jeter is in, in Dec after breaking his ankle lol , evey seen pEdroia in the offseason?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeP8LyPqhlk (better stay off dancing with the stars there pedey!) :lol:

As far as "Nappy", totally disagree... they overpaid by 4 mil a yr, not much in Yankees land but in bankruptcy John Henry land, it is ALOT lol.

My take on the Napoli signing is that the Sox may have overpaid but not egregiously by any means. I thought he would have gotten around 10-11M/year so 13M isn't that far off, besides, they have the money to spend. Statistically Napoli has absolutely pummeled the Sox in Fenway, he's a perfect fit for that park and I expect he'll be closer to his 2010 self than his 2011.

PayRod being out until July, now that's hilarious!! Not like they'll miss him that much, he's been awful the last 2 years anyway. Nunez / Chavez platoon replacing him is scary. There are so many MAJOR holes in that lineup!! Jeter being out of shape is a reach. PTI had a pic of him taken today and they believed those previous "fat" pictures of him were photoshopped, quite possibly.

 

[daydreamer41]

You know Mike Napoli had one good year in his 7 year pro ball career. He's a career .259 hitter. He's hit 146 HR's in 7 years, with 30 HR being his high. He's not a franchise player.

The Blue Jays have improved themselves over last year. I don't think getting Mike Napoli will improve the Red Sox that much, if at all.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Yet he is being paid like he is Yogi Berra of 2013!

The Jays are the wild card in all this for what they have done so far this offseason, the Yanks and Jays are the class of the AL East, Balt and Tampa will be thorns in our side. IF and it is a HUGE if.. the red sox trade for RA Dickey, sign one of Swisher/Hamilton and also sign Greinke, then they will compete in the east, if not.... que sera sera

You know Mike Napoli had one good year in his 7 year pro ball career. He's a career .259 hitter. He's hit 146 HR's in 7 years, with 30 HR being his high. He's not a franchise player.

The Blue Jays have improved themselves over last year. I don't think getting Mike Napoli will improve the Red Sox that much, if at all.

 

[Special K]

To say that the Yanks are the class of the AL East now is preposterous, but I don't expect anything less from you Iggy.

 

[lgna69xxx]

I said the Yanks AND the Jays.... dont hate just cause you dont understand :lol:

To say that the Yanks are the class of the AL East now is preposterous, but I don't expect anything less from you Iggy.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

He's a career .259 hitter.

Nice use of a 19th century stat, DD. By the way, welcome back. How'd Pennsylvania work out for ya? Now, if you want to use 21st century metrics, Napoli has a career .863 OPS, higher than Granderson, higher than Chavez, higher than Jeter, higher than Cano. In fact, higher than all Yankees except the corpse of Alex Rodriguez and Mark Teixeira. And the last time Teixeria had a higher OPS than that was 2009.

Apparently your method of statistical analysis is the same one you use to predict elections.

My take on the Napoli signing is that the Sox may have overpaid but not egregiously by any means.

Here's part of what fangraphs has to say about the signing."Napoli, clearly, is a non-elite bat. He doesn’t make a positive contribution running the bases, and he’s not about to win a Gold Glove at first base. He’s made valuable by his power, and the best way to describe his contract with the Red Sox is “fair”. The Red Sox aren’t getting him at a bargain, and the Red Sox also aren’t getting Napoli as a potential albatross, which was never going to happen given the limited number of suitors. Three years and $39 million seems like the right price for a good hitter on the wrong side of 30. It was probably crucial for the Red Sox to get this done now so that they can turn their attention to other parts of the roster in need."

Also according to Fangraphs, Napoli was worth $45.3 Million over the last three years. That's using statistical analysis. According to iggy, they overpaid by $4 M per year. That's using his favorite analytical method: pissing in the wind.

PTI had a pic of him taken today and they believed those previous "fat" pictures of him were photoshopped, quite possibly.

Dunno, those pictures of Derek Eater looked legit to me.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Merlot, the Yankees primarily consist right now of two things: holes and question marks.

Holes:
C - vacant
RF - vacant
3b - vacant
DH - vacant

43 year old closer coming off surgery - question mark
41 year old starter coming off broken leg - question mark
38 year old starter - question mark
33 year old starter coming of knee surgery - question mark
fifth starter - question mark
39 year old shortstop coming off broken ankle and surgery - question mark

And a General Manager sleeping through the winter.

Wow. It will be a minor miracle if the 2013 Yankees don't lose 100 games.

 

[lgna69xxx]

And yet still miles ahead of the red sox lol.......... enjoy another year watching the Yanks in the postseason rumpie

I see Dan Haren got a one yr deal from the Nats, EXCELLENT! another starter that could of helped the red sox, then again what does another #3 guy do for boston when they already have a plethora of #3's and 4's and ZERO top of the line starters

Merlot, the Yankees primarily consist right now of two things: holes and question marks.

Holes:C - vacantRF - vacant3b - vacantDH - vacant43 year old closer coming off surgery - question mark41 year old starter coming off broken leg - question mar38 year old starter - question mark33 year old starter coming of knee surgery - question markfifth starter - question mark39 year old shortstop coming off broken ankle and surgery - question mark

 

[Special K]

I see Dan Haren got a one yr deal from the Nats, EXCELLENT! another starter that could of helped the red sox, then again what does another #3 guy do for boston when they already have a plethora of #3's and 4's and ZERO top of the line starters

So predictable Iggy...Haren goes to the Nats and it's a wonderful signing with only positive outcomes, he signs with the Sox and you'd say it's the worst signing in history, his velocity dropped off big time last season, etc. So predictable! Hahaha.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Now this is "Hahaha"

Victorino (13 mil per) $39 mil for 3 years ... talk about overpayments lol......

[video=youtube;zdCUpiI1MSA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdCUpiI1MSA[/video]

Hahaha.

 

[Special K]

Bingo...Right on time Mr. Predictability. Didn't I tell you Rumples? Hahahahaha.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Oh man, lol........Benny Boy is playing Santa pretty good this offseason so far, David Ross (who?) overpaid? CHECK!.... Jonny F'in Gomes, overpaid? CHECK! Mike Napoli, overpaid? CHECK! Shane Victorino, overpaid? CHECK! Man this is good stuff lol

Lets see, ya'll lost 93 games last year with Salty and Lavarnway catching, both better than David Ross... lost 93 games last year with Stud first baseman Agone there, Napoli is NOT better...lost 93 games last year with Cody Ross, Victorino is NOT better than him nor is Gomes.... SO far the red sox, talent wise, have done nothing to better themselves. The problem was not scoring runs, the problem was the starting pitching, so while "Santa Cherington" goes around spreading good cheer with the red sox money, when is he gonna address the REAL problems???? But, RA Dickey will be a red sox, you heard it here first.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Bingo...Right on time Mr. Predictability. Didn't I tell you Rumples? Hahahahaha.

Actually, quite laughable, considering that Rip Van Cashman is sleeping the winter away, despite the gaping holes in his teams lineup.

Must confess that I was unimpressed with the Victorino signing until I looked at his defensive numbers and his 80% SB rate. Quite a solid player. According to fan graphs, he's been worth $56.6 million over the past three years, so quite a good buy. What's interesting here is that this signing raises the possibility that the Sox now have the option to deal Ellsbury before he gets wildly expensive...and get a front line pitcher in return.

Word on the street it that the Yankees are looking to sign the corpse of Kevin Youkilis to fill in for the corpse of Alex Rodriguez.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Just read Cody Ross was seeking a 3 year deal worth $25mil... yet they give Gomes 5 per and Victorino 13 mil per lol... would the red sox still sign Cody Ross???? Anyways, Great stuff, keep it up "Santa Cherington" :thumb:

 

[Special K]

Cody Ross is a decent bat, not great but serviceable, however, his defense is reprehensible!! He made 3M last season, expect the Yanks to throw about 8-10M at him.

 

[lgna69xxx]

How so rumpie poo? Signing Kuroda, Pettitte, and Rivera is more than 95% of any clubs have done this offseason to date. 2 top level starters and the best closer of all time is sleeping? lol, only in "rumpie-world" The Arod situation just came about so lets give Cash some time to see whats the best option. If Youkilis came at a decent price, sure why not? But i would be perfectly fine with Chavez coming back. As far as catcher, the Yanks could easily fill that position in house, i would love the fiery and passionate Cervelli to have a chance to be the full time guy and see what he can do, if not there is always Austin R in the minors, we just need a good defensive catcher and anything added offensively is a bonus. I have heard the Yanks are negotiating with Aj Pierzynski, now i would LOVE that move but do not expect it.

Cashman is sleeping the winter away, despite the gaping holes in his teams lineup.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Apparently you know little of Jonny F'in Gomes (Cody's replacement it appears) and his "awesome" defensive game, lol.

Cody Ross is a decent bat, not great but serviceable, however, his defense is reprehensible!! .

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

You know, K, if I were rooting for a team with NO catcher, NO DH, NO 3b, NO RF and an old shortstop, an old #1 starting pitcher, and old closer and a left fielder all coming off surgery, I'd be keeping my mouth shut.

And to think that this team is already on the hook for $182,000,000 for next season. Ouch.

Actually, Ross isn't a bad fielder, but really he is pretty much the same player as Gomes, who is much cheaper.

Apparently you know little of Jonny F'in Gomes (Cody's replacement it appears) and his "awesome" defensive game, lol.

Considering the stupid shit that's coming out of your keyboard, you know little about baseball in general.