might that be having a coffee and donuts !:lol:
Cheers
booker
hahaha rofl !! Ya
might that be having a coffee and donuts !:lol:
Cheers
booker
Tell me .. if indy's will be okay? or they will bust everyone even if they are recognized as indies... as for us ''incall'' with strict rules.. will might have to close our door.. even if there is no minor or drogues..
Tell me .. if indy's will be okay? or they will bust everyone even if they are recognized as indies... as for us ''incall'' with strict rules.. will might have to close our door.. even if there is no minor or drogues.. but still there is always a way. when you close a door.. you still have the window... what you think will happen cause for sure C-36 will be adopted. All i can stay is enjoy the hobby while you still have time
Tell me .. if indy's will be okay? or they will bust everyone even if they are recognized as indies... as for us ''incall'' with strict rules.. will might have to close our door..
With the present law, incalls are illegal. The only reason you are not prosecuted is because police and prosecutors think they provide a more secure working environment. Will this change with the new law? We don't know, but I think it will not in Montreal. If LE starts busting incalls they know they will put sex workers at more risk.
Looks to me that the new law, sadly, is a done deal in Canada. Help us non Canadians understand the following:
1. When within less then a year, how and by whom could be through a criminal case or through the civil procedures like the Bedford case will the new law get challenged and thrown to the Supreme Court? We are talking about no less than four years of court procedures.
And if it does, will the new law put on hold while being studied by the court or will it remain in effect? will remain in effect.
2. If Trudeau Jr. and the liberals sweep into office in the next elections, will they reverse the course (judging by liberals of America, I really doubt it)? Not a new law but they could decide to ask the Supreme Court to examine the constitutionality of the law. They voted against it on that basis. That would be the fastest way to have get rid of the law. However, they probably do not want to have to write a new one.
3. Quebec is a much open minded society than the rest of the country. Are their politicians cut form the same cloth as the people? Not sure Québec is a more open society than the rest of Canada except Alberta. Big city people tend to be more open mind: Montréal, Toronto and Vancouver. Provincial politicians have been liberal thinkers (both Liberal Party and PQ) for the past 50 years. Right wing conservatism is growing however on the political scene.
3. If no more fun can be had in Canada, where do go?
Your reply seemed to stem from the police speed trap example. The rules for probable cause to enter private property, including a hotel room, are vastly different with respect to traffic laws and entry of private property. I do not think the examples you provide have any possibility of occurring. You discuss C-36 as though if imposes martial law throughout Canada, which it does not. Hell, Americans have been dealing with full criminality for decades and Scandanavians have been feeling with lopsided criminality for years, and nothing like what you describe occurs in those countries. In years of studying the U.S. law enforcement in this area, I can only think of one guy who ever got sentenced to jail for being a john, and he has a habitual felon who pissed off the judge.
There is one danger to johns in this law who do not pick up street girls. That danger is that agencies are heavily investigated by Canadian law enforcement and decide to shut down. That will place enormous administrative burden on independents to find an advertising venue, learn to advertise in a manner that is acceptable to the host, communicate with customers, keep a schedule, and manage transportation.
Read my post in context, why don't you? It was a response to gugu who thinks the old law will be in place after the new law goes into affect (if it does in its present form).
My point was if you are in the privacy of your own hotel room with an SP, the current law exempted your from any wrong doing and the new law does not. Gugu's last sentence was: "If LE starts busting incalls they know they will put sex workers at more risk." The new law would only arrest the sex buyer in incalls or outcalls.
As far as probable cause, the police don't need much. You can have a neighbor who complains you are bringing in young girls, and says "They look awfully young". The police can say, well call us the next time you see Mr. Patron invite some young lady into his house. Police work off of complaints. No one complains, LE usually doesn't bother you. I imagine there will be some conservative, starchy people who don't like their neighbors complaining.
But that being said, you can't be so sure that a Judge who is against the buying of sex won't give a significant sentence because he or she can.
But don't go to Thailand, whatever you do. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand! Look it up if you don't believe me. See how silly this all is. Guys will still be able to get sex for money in Montreal, just like they can in the U.S.
The reason many of us love Montreal is the high quality and availability of hot "college age" providers at a low price. I worry about the law changing the economics more than the law resulting in actual arrests of johns.
Hi LailaExactly, as for myself i will to definitely see what will happen before to do an other step. As BookerL said, if we know the weakness point of this new law THEN we will be able to try to figure something.
Have a great day
You've been smoking some bad shit. Get the organic stuff from your local producer next time.
It's obvious I was not talking about the risk of being arrested, but the risk of working in less secure environment.
With the present law, incalls are illegal. The only reason you are not prosecuted is because police and prosecutors think they provide a more secure working environment. Will this change with the new law? We don't know, but I think it will not in Montreal. If LE starts busting incalls they know they will put sex workers at more risk.
It's clear we have had a small group of people making such complains to LE in the the last couple of years. But they are not taken seriously anymore by LE because they engender costly inquiries that get nowhere.
DD, Canada is not a banana republic. Our justice system works as good as your country's.
My concern is that Canada is not a culture of corruption. I always fear that some up and coming politico will try to make a name for themselves and bust all the agencies.