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    Unhappy Cialis/Viagra fear!

    A guy in this forum said that Viagra/Cialis could be very harmful to you: “I fear that if I use cialis every time I have sex, without really needing it, that my body will get used to this and eventually adjust to compensate for the drug - to the point where I will NEED to take it in order to have sex.”

    Is this bullshit or is it possible that getting used to these drugs could permanently and seriously affect your ability to have sex without pharmaceutical assistance?
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    I believe that Viagra was originaly develped as a heart medication, the erections were only a side effect. So, this drug has been studied twice, and deemed to be safe twice. Cialis is a derivative of Viagra and has also been studied and deemed to be safe.

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    Viagra and Levitra are similar in the way they act on the body but are different coumpounds. Cialis is a totally different animal, with the same effects but acting differently. There's no relation between Cialis and Viagra/Levitra in terms of derivatives or chemical formulation.

    The main ingredient of Viagra is still used as a medicine in treating heart problems but, under a different name and dosage.

    The saying about your body getting used to it and not performing without later without it is an urban legend. What could happen is, psycologically, somebody get so afraid of not performing without, he won't perform without! All in the head!

    Cialis is usually good for about 36 hours and Viagra/Levitra for 4. All recommend not using more than once per 24 hours. All becomes active within about 15-30 minutes of ingestion. Cialis have no bad interaction with any food while Viagra/Levitre will see their effect reduced or even eliminated by fatty foods.

    With such fast action, I don't see why somebody would need to pop these pills every days? You meet the lady, get back to a quiet place, pop the pill, fool around with preliminaries and, within about 20 minutes, it's ready to go! No need to "carry a loaded gun" all the time! Plus, these pills aren't cheap if you insist on legal verified sources to get them.

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    The best advice would be to use it if you need it, that is you have erectile dysfonction.
    A friend told me that he had "better" erections with viagra, that's why he was using it, he had no erectile dysfonction proper.
    There is a low dose cialis (5 mg instead of 20) that you can use everyday so that you are always ready, for example if you go on vacations and plan to have sex everyday; you have to start a few days before you leave for the cialis to be effective.
    That way, you are cured!

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    Bob, as I said in my previous post, why take a drug everyday if you don't know for a fact you'll need it? These drugs takes only 15-30 minutes to act.

    You meet the girl, ensure you have chances to reach the home plate, excuse yourself to the washroom, take the pill, comes back and get the girl begging for more... By that time, the pill will be at work! Even if you take the pill and go at it immediately, it's likely the erection problem will be to maintain it, not to get it up so, by the time Junior would get tired, the pill will have time to start helping to keep it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marauder69
    A guy in this forum said that Viagra/Cialis could be very harmful to you: “I fear that if I use cialis every time I have sex, without really needing it, that my body will get used to this and eventually adjust to compensate for the drug - to the point where I will NEED to take it in order to have sex.”

    Is this bullshit or is it possible that getting used to these drugs could permanently and seriously affect your ability to have sex without pharmaceutical assistance?
    Yes, bullshit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cialis#Side_effects - that was the thread where Magic Unicorn Dust purchased from a honest purveyor of ground substances in China was discussed.

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    Does anyone know whether milder food supplements work in the longer term?

    A couple of months ago, an add caught my eye claiming that men over 35 should start taking these food supplements in order to compensate for the starting decrease in testosterone at that age, known apparently as "men's menopause" or climacteric. Some of these supplements claim they can enhance libido and erection.

    I asked a doctor and he said that there are no clinical trials to prove their efficiency.

    Anyone tried? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hannibal690
    Does anyone know whether milder food supplements work in the longer term?

    A couple of months ago, an add caught my eye claiming that men over 35 should start taking these food supplements in order to compensate for the starting decrease in testosterone at that age, known apparently as "men's menopause" or climacteric. Some of these supplements claim they can enhance libido and erection.

    I asked a doctor and he said that there are no clinical trials to prove their efficiency.

    Anyone tried? Thanks.
    If your testostérone level is low, maybe you will improve if you take testostérone.
    You should ask your doctor to check your testostérone level.
    If it's OK, you don't need anything,
    If not, maybe you need testostérone patch or pill or whatever.
    I wouldn't trust "food supplements", probably a loss of money
    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marauder69
    A guy in this forum said that Viagra/Cialis could be very harmful to you: “I fear that if I use cialis every time I have sex, without really needing it, that my body will get used to this and eventually adjust to compensate for the drug - to the point where I will NEED to take it in order to have sex.”

    Is this bullshit or is it possible that getting used to these drugs could permanently and seriously affect your ability to have sex without pharmaceutical assistance?
    Oh it is real. Whether it is a physical need or a psychological need is yet to be proven but the dependence is real.

    I still do not truly understand why a guy who does not need such a drug would want to use it so badly.

    I understand if you are not getting hard in the first place or if your wood is softer than it once was, if there is no need then I still do not get why.

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    As I understand it, the purpose of this thread is to determine whether Viagra/Levitra/Cialis can cause some sort of dependance be it physical or psychological.

    I have tried both Viagra and Levitra on an very irregular bases (three or four times per year). I stopped using Viagra because I felt it was too violent on my system. I really felt bad the next day after taking Viatra (upset stomach, nausea, tighness in the chest). I find that Levitra is less violent but I may eventually switch to Cialis. Yes, I can still have an erection (not always) without using these products but I use them as an insurance policy only in special circumstances. Each pill does cost about $15,00 each from legitimate sources. Therefore, there is somewhat a psychological dependance. The root of this dependance is the fear of failure at an inappropriate moment: for example, when you are paying x amount of dollars for female companionship. Why take a chance if you have previously had erectile dysfunction? Which is my situation.

    For the physical aspect, I personnaly am not able to answer the question whether or not once you start using these products on a very regular bases (several times per week) you will be dependant on them in the future. In other words, whether you will be able to have any sort of erection without using the product. But, I feel the psychological dependance will increase with usage.

    There seems to be two types of users: those who unfortunetaly need it now and then and those who do not need it at all (those who have never had an erectile dysfunction) but use it on a volontary bases.

    For those who do not need these products but use them, Viagra/Levitra/Cialis is to sex what steriods are to some professionnal athletes. It enables cheating athletes to practice longer, harder, to increase their stamina and performance. I am not certain that a male in perfect health needs or obstain any increase in performance with these products. Only time will tell if these products are as dangerous to them as steriods are to athletes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtylady
    Oh it is real. Whether it is a physical need or a psychological need is yet to be proven but the dependence is real.
    Remind me Ronnie, where did you get your medical degree again? I forget.

    Quote Originally Posted by naughtylady
    I still do not truly understand why a guy who does not need such a drug would want to use it so badly.
    Porn performers are using it for obvious reasons. As I understand it, younger guys who use E or cocaine which seems to interfere with erectile function in some use Viagra or Cialis to overcome (pun intended) the diserecting effects.

    I imagine others that do no need it use if for similar reasons, being able to maintain wood as hard and as frequently as when you were 16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouVantOption
    Remind me Ronnie, where did you get your medical degree again? I forget.



    Porn performers are using it for obvious reasons. As I understand it, younger guys who use E or cocaine which seems to interfere with erectile function in some use Viagra or Cialis to overcome (pun intended) the diserecting effects.

    I imagine others that do no need it use if for similar reasons, being able to maintain wood as hard and as frequently as when you were 16.
    YVO>>>> ...and what was you major at university?

    My minor is in sexuality studies (I completed my BA last year) and I have known personally a few men in the sex industry (and out) who have suffered the effects of prolonged use when not necessary. If you cannot maintain wood then you need it.

    When one is taking Viagra to counter act the side effects of other drugs, I understand this and it is necessary. If these same men stopped taking the drugs that took away their wood then the need disappears.

    I am talking about men who generally get hard as normal healthy men do but take it anyway. In these men, it can cause problems. Ask your doctor. Not only problems getting hard without it, but headaches, high blood pressure, dizziness etc.
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    Usually I use successfully a natural product OREXIS but I am curios to try CIALIS.
    Did anyone try to order it online in CANADIAN PHARMACY – PHARMA BONUS SupermedSwell ?

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    Ask a doctor, not a guy in this forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marauder69
    A guy in this forum said that Viagra/Cialis could be very harmful to you: “I fear that if I use cialis every time I have sex, without really needing it, that my body will get used to this and eventually adjust to compensate for the drug - to the point where I will NEED to take it in order to have sex.”

    A guy in this forum said...............................

    .................Since when is a guy in this forum an authority on any subject.

    Anytime you take a drug without needing it you take the risk of a dependancy towards it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user1000
    Usually I use successfully a natural product OREXIS but I am curios to try CIALIS.
    Did anyone try to order it online in CANADIAN PHARMACY – PHARMA BONUS SupermedSwell ?
    No need to ask in multiple thread. That's called spamming.

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