Coronavirus

[Fradi]

My issue is not with shutting down religious places of worship it is that you do things in a fair and equitable way.
None of this BS of there are rules for me and then there are rules for you.

I also agree with Hungry that society has gone insane with idolizing criminals because they happen to be black and holding people in high esteem like Caitlin Jenner who was a fabulous athlete and a decent looking guy but right now simply put is an ugly broad, it is his life and if he is happy that is fine but to idolize him because he cut off his dick, wtf.
Two of my favourite singers were Elvis Presley and Micheal Jackson the best entertainer that I have seen but I don’t idolize them they were sad and broken human beings in need of pity not thought of as heroes.
It is this whole politically correct bullshit and self loathing that I hate.

I had nothing to do with slavery, I am not a racist stop trying to make me feel ashamed of being born white.
Don‘t fucking call me entitled you have no idea what I went through in my life, I worked my ass off for what I have.
I will not apologize for something I had nothing to do with I don’t care if the football team is called the Washington Redskins or Redbirds I didn’t give them the name I don’t even live in the US, that was their name for over 50 years.
I don’t give a shit because someone wants to change a street name because he looked up some 100 year old document and found out the guys grandfather was involved in slavery, not my battle.
I don’t want to right the wrongs of 100 years ago I had nothing to do with it.
Unfortunately this is the kind of crap you read on a daily basis today in the news.
Instead of going out and protesting and looting and burning maybe some of these guys could find a job take care of their family send there kids to university so they can find meaningful employment and not have to loot stores to have a large screen tv.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^ What he said.

 

[Fradi]

At least we will have a good idea of the early side affects here by the time we get to see one of the vaccines.
Our Prime minister is probably off at some Indian wedding taking selfies. Got to make use of his wardrobe that he acquired during his trip there.
He told us to wear masks social distance and that we are in control of our destiny so his job is done.
Legault will let us dance in the streets and he will play the spoons if we promise to vote for him come next election so we should be thankful we are in such good hands.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

I live in Florida,

I work in BC, get some cloud (NO umbrella) everyday when I drive my truck. In addition I consume a lot of rum, and also take a daily spoonful of good quality weed. I am 64 and my health is pretty ify. I do also make sure I get plenty of DQ blizzards and capers which one needs to pretty much ruin all systems of the body. Good BJ goes a long way to keeping one healthy, along with Mc fries, fresh OJ, PS4 and good spanking.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Found this. Interesting

Interesting break down of statistics. Facts - not opinion. Last year the Flu accounted for 3.17% of all deaths in Canada. This year Covid accounts for 3.6% of all deaths in Canada. (Keep in mind the 3.6% crosses over what is considered a "season" so its a little difficult to be 100% accurate. Plus, this includes numbers from March/April when it peaked we didn't know much what was going on) CTV reported that 98% of all deaths in Canada were in Long Term and Palliative care homes. Think about that. Palliative care (and to some extent long term care) is simply comforting people until they die and, if they become ill, do not treat them. 2% of the deaths (again CTV) were from the general population outside of care homes. Lets do some math. 87% of those 2% of deaths were people who had at least 2 moderate to severe health issues (CDC Stat), and another 7% had 1 moderate to severe health issue (CDC stat). So you have (87% + 7% = 94%) of the 2% of all deaths were ill people. If you do the math, that means that only 14 (YES 14) supposedly healthy people not in an end-of-life home and not sick with some other moderate to severe condition succumbed to covid, in all of Canada, over the last year. Even if you remove the illness factor from the 2 percent and assume they were all healthy, that's 228 people. 25% of all children who die from the flu were vaccinated 33% of all adults who have died from the flu were vaccinated. The flu visits us every year and has killed over 70,000 Canadians in the last 20 years, that's with a vaccine. (using a conservative 3500 a year average) In the 2020 flu season, deaths are zero. In the first week of November, not one province or territory in Canada reported a single patient hospitalized with the flu. Make what you want of this.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

May as well add one more, like this one a lot.

 

[cloudsurf]

I think the scariest factor about COVID is the unknown factor. It appears to spread easier than the common flue so it can strike anywhere and anytime with unpredictable consequences. The biggest fear after surviving COVID are the chronic effects it has on your body and major organs. Stats don`t tell the whole story , but nice effort SolT .

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^ How can chronic long term effects be guaged since there are no long term cases?

Just one article

Lung damage could be permanent for some coronavirus patients, but new scans show significant healing after 12 weeks

COVID-19 patients have showed signs of lung damage six weeks after leaving the hospital. But many saw their CT scans improve after 12 weeks.

www.businessinsider.com

Some of you need to understand thatbwhen they say CAN it does not mean WILL when specialists give their opinion. Can is an easy out when it does noy happen, may is a good one also.

More info, numbers do matter if you can understand them.

Beyond the numbers: Who is dying of COVID in Canada, and how?

We risk growing numb to the numbers — the daily summary of tests, cases and deaths. And doctors still don't fully comprehend the 'crapshoot' nature of the disease

montrealgazette.com

 

[The Nature Boy]

CAN also does not mean WILL NOT babes....but, obviously they are asking the question for a reason? It’s not like they are asking if getting covid will make your dick fall off? If it did, they would say it can. Would you still say can does not mean it may not?

Not having your Vital capacity and a shitty work of breathing 4 weeks after getting a covid infection only to say “hey mate, wait another 2 months, it’ll all clear up soon enough” ....well, you know what I’m gonna say

Just try not to get covid. Wear a mask, socially distanced using common sense,
Wash your hands, and if you do decide to see a lady also your dicks and assholes too brothers...

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

This is what grinds my gears, people saying losing millions of jobs and thousands of business but it was worth it. Meanwhile she never lost a nickle and probably pulls in a very large wage.


The approach has largely worked. The nation's recorded cases peaked at 739 on Aug. 5, but since then the count has dwindled steadily and most Australian cities have gone weeks without a single new case.

It has come at the cost of a million jobs nationwide and thousands of now-failed businesses. But it was worth it, says Dr. Nancy Baxter, who runs the University of Melbourne's School of Population and Global Health.

"You can't have a well-functioning economy with a raging pandemic. It's not an economy versus lives," she told CBC News.

For a virus that killed 0.02% of the worlds population.

Just my opinion

 

[cloudsurf]

Who among you f`kkers has RH negative type O blood? If you do then you are lucky bastards. Studies show that O negative blood has partial immunity to COVID. Studies are still going on as to why and how. Maybe we owe some thanks to our Neanderthal distant relatives who ate bats.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^^^^ Me

 

[hungry101]

Top 15 Covid-19 Hypocrites - Charlie Kirk

#15 – Kaitlan Collins – CNN White House Correspondent The hypocritical, virtue signaling CNN reporter who has often criticized President Trump for not wearing a mask in public, was caught on camera taking hers off the moment the White House press briefing ended. She then proceeded to walk past...

charliekirk.com

Here are the top 15 Covid hypocrites. Somehow, they forgot to add the 40 California State lawmakers (32 Democrats and 8 Republicans) that traveled to Hawaii for a 2-week conference about how to get the state economy back up and running, post pandemic. I hope they might also discuss amnesty and how to expunge the record of the paddle boarder that was removed in chains by the coast guard and slapped with a 4,000$ fine for violating the CA lockdown order that no one in the government seems to be interested in following themselves.

 

[hungry101]

LA County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl votes to ban outdoor dining because “its not safe” and immediately is caught dining outdoors at her favorite restaurant that very evening.

LA County Supervisor dines at restaurant hours after voting to ban outdoor dining

Protesters gathered outside the home of LA County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl on Tuesday after a FOX 11 report revealed hours after she voted to ban outdoor dining she dined outdoors herself.

www.foxla.com

 

[IamNY]

LA County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl votes to ban outdoor dining because “its not safe” and immediately is caught dining outdoors at her favorite restaurant that very evening.

LA County Supervisor dines at restaurant hours after voting to ban outdoor dining

Protesters gathered outside the home of LA County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl on Tuesday after a FOX 11 report revealed hours after she voted to ban outdoor dining she dined outdoors herself.

www.foxla.com

Do as I say, not as I do!

 

[sene5hos]

Doctor embraces elderly COVID-19 patient in heartbreaking photo from Texas

A Houston doctor who has worked for 256 days straight was seen comforting an elderly man wanting to be with his wife in a photograph that captured the emotional toll of COVID-19 on patients and the resiliency and compassion of health-care workers.

www.ctvnews.ca

Dr. Joseph Varon hugs and comforts a patient in the COVID-19 intensive care unit (ICU) during U.S. Thanksgiving at the United Memorial Medical Center on November 26, 2020 in Houston.

Image like this touch me.

 

[CaptRenault]

Wall Street Journal columnist Holman Jenkins has been writing about the pandemic since the early days of its discovery and spread. He takes a contrarian view of the disease, as compared to most other media members. He takes the pandemic very seriously and he fully supports the extraordinary program to develop a vaccine as rapidly as possible.

But he is skeptical of the the obsession with counting "confirmed cases" and the possibility of accurately measuring the true extent of a disease that is highly contagious yet is also often (though not always) asymptomatic or has only mild symptoms, similar to colds and the flu.

Covid Was Hiding Among Colds and Flus
Too much focus on Washington and magic fixes has impeded grass-roots adaptation.
wsj.com
By Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.
Nov. 27, 2020

Here are some Covid realities that we’ve long alluded to that might be useful to spell out in the current surge.

U.S. government scientists now estimate that 40% of cases are asymptomatic and 80% of symptomatic cases are mild—in short, 88% of subjects don’t know they are infected or have no great incentive to find out if they are suffering from Covid or some more familiar bug.

An American adult typically suffers two colds a year, while school-age children may suffer 10 or more, and 20 million of us get the flu. A conservative estimate, then, is that 13 million Americans every day suffer from something not readily distinguishable from mild Covid (never mind asymptomatic Covid).
This perhaps explains why, despite conducting 186 million tests since the plague arrived, we’ve found only 12.7 million cases. Most who have Covid aren’t getting tested; among those seeking tests the large majority are suffering from something that isn’t Covid.

The implications have been slow to sink in. Embarrassing as America’s early testing fumbles were, the consequences were likely small. The odds were heavily against us being able to detect multiple outbreaks, seeded here and there by travelers from overseas, amid millions of colds and flus. (Indeed, false positives from every kind of test would have swamped any effort to identify Covid cases before they reached a critical mass.)

Government should have quickly freed the market to supply the diagnostic testing that the public demanded, but such testing was never a means to control the epidemic or even measure it. Maybe 186 million tests a week would do the trick, but not over nine months.

Though Donald Trump and the media enjoy obsessing about each other, a Washington fix was never in the cards beyond mobilizing supplies and expediting a vaccine. The job was always going to fall on the shoulders of 330 million Americans, with guidance from local leaders, to adapt to oscillating waves in their communities.

Recent British random testing revealed that 86% of Covid carriers were asymptomatic (at least for Covid) at the time of testing. An Italian study finds Covid was present in Europe three months before it exploded in Wuhan. The new virus was always more widespread and invisible than we wanted to realize. What causes it to explode suddenly on local hospital systems remains a puzzle. One lesson appears to be that a sensible strategy, rather than broad lockdowns, should focus narrowly on superspreading activities among the young and then the occasions by which the virus is transmitted to the elderly and vulnerable.

A wit once said war is too important to be left to the generals. In a similar vein, the political consequences of Covid are so dramatic that even experts have been bewitched by the imperative to mythologize the pandemic. A disease that infects 10 million people and kills 2.5% will kill the same number as a disease that infects 100 million and kills 0.25%, but they need to be approached differently. The latter is what we’ve been facing. The former is the picture we have been consistently painting for the public with our obsession with “confirmed cases.”

Such collective delusions don’t occur because every contrary wisp is silenced. Quite the opposite: The cat was constantly escaping the bag. Harvard’s Marc Lipsitch, a media favorite, was an early skeptic of the test-and-trace panacea given symptomless spread. In April Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker all but admitted to an uncomprehending radio reporter that such efforts were a show for the public.

A few leaders—Angela Merkel in Germany, New Jersey health chief Judith Persichilli—were clear that most citizens should expect to encounter the virus. But even German and New Jersey politicians have emphasized “confirmed” cases because it gives the illusion of control. Ditto the media, because the illusion of controllability allows politicians to be blamed for not controlling it.

No major U.S. media outlet has yet broken with this convention. In Britain, by contrast, two separate efforts have been under way for months using random testing to form a more realistic picture of the pandemic. Likewise, a U.S. Senate committee last week heard evidence that the drug hydroxychloroquine, instead of being a cure-all, is effective in the disease’s perversely untreated early stages. This was too much nuance for our press. It mostly reverted to the story line that HCQ is a useless drug that Mr. Trump promoted.

We have a media that overwhelmingly sees its job as repeating things, rather than finding things out and understanding them. A free press has been less of an asset in dealing with Covid than it might have been.

 

[Robert 21]

CDC says 14-day quarantine best way to reduce Covid risk, but 10- and 7-day periods work in some cases
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/12/02...-10-and-7-day-periods-work-in-some-cases.html

KEY POINTS

• The CDC still recommends a 14-day quarantine "as the best way to reduce the risk of spreading Covid-19."
• However, the quarantine can end after 10 days if the person has not developed any symptoms and after just seven days if the asymptomatic person also tests negative for the virus, the CDC's Dr. Henry Walke said.
• Public health specialists have been awaiting the change with "delighted anticipation," said Dr. Bill Schaffner, an epidemiologist at Vanderbilt University.

^^YES, would love to see a shortened Quarantine Period.
SO miss Traveling and this Hobby....


***WILL YOU GET THE VACCINE***

 

[hungry101]

Yes Robert. The best way is to quarantine. So says the latest fucking Democratic hypocrite, the mayor of Austin, TX. Read about this fucking hypocrite who recorded this message from his time share in Mexico. Shame on these fucking hypocrites and the sheep that follow them: https://www.statesman.com/story/new...he-was-vacationing-in-cabo-at-time/115087704/

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Legault just canceled Christmas...
For some maybe, not for me.