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Ya! but he was not lobotomized as Gorsuch and Kavanaugh! my opinion on Barrett is not fixed yet. A few republicans still have ethic and decency.
Cannot receive the communion wafer online. People can work out at home, I do. People can drink at home, I do. What I'm saying is there is no reason why people shouldn't be able to go to church within the guidelines set forth by the CDC just like they can a bar, gym, or strip club. Everybody should be treated equally. Trump didn't stack anything, he simply appointed a justice just like it's been done many times before. But it's not about that, not at all. It's about people being treated equally. We all stay locked inside or we all are allowed to go outside, it's not for anyone to pick and choose who gets to do it. Especially if we all are subjected to the same rules set forth by the CDC. It's about time the Supreme Court got something right for a change.
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I'm serious about my entire post, yes. trolling? please. Enlighten us with more of your quick responses with multiple question marks and periods...???
I wonder if anyone bothered to read the actual text of the Supreme Court's decision. I found the dissent penned by Chief Justice especially illuminating. The legal doctrine on which he is apparently basing his reasoning seems to be accessible to mere mortals, it reads: Kick The Can Down The Road! Why bother, Roberts writes, when Cuomo has agreed to redraw the zones, so those pesky Catholics and Jews should be happy already. Why do we need to do any work when who knows if he reinstates the restrictions or not. If he does, then come back again and we will find another reason to do nothing. Let's have beer and chips or perhaps pinot noir and brie, life is beautiful. (Not his exact words, rather my reading of them.)
In any other line of work, a person writing this document would likely be considered a lazy fuck, but hey, here, as we are reliably informed, we are in the presence of a distinguished legal scholar, so we must memorize it and from now on use it as a reference. Impressive beyond belief, no question.
In any other line of work, a person writing this document would likely be considered a lazy fuck, but hey, here, as we are reliably informed, we are in the presence of a distinguished legal scholar, so we must memorize it and from now on use it as a reference. Impressive beyond belief, no question.
I never went to law school but thank you. Look, civil liberties are a beautiful thing my luvs. However, it’s not a license to be an asshole. It’s as plain an simple as that. Now if you will excuse me I need to go pack for my flight...
Toodle-li-dooo...
Toodle-li-dooo...
Of course I couldn’t agree more, obviously Merb posters are better trained in asshole activities than Supreme Court judges.
I agree with this as much I agree that a girl that enters a paid financial agreement with a man is a girl friend.
That would be putting it rather mildly. Gorsuch's concurring opinion is apparently quite critical of Roberts and his political trickery, although it's not easy for an outsider like myself to appreciate just how critical. The decision, however narrow it might appear, is obviously quite consequential. It signals that Trump's appointees are now fully in charge.
Here is an excellent WSJ editorial dealing with the subject.
While the 5-4 order is welcome, it is disappointing that the ruling wasn’t 9-0.
Opinion | Fireworks Over Religious Liberty
The Supreme Court says Cuomo’s restrictions on worship violate the First Amendment.
www.wsj.com
What is going on in the United States is insane. Small business, the flywheel of our economy, is watching their businesses figuratively and sometimes literally, go up in smoke. The government does nothing to protect your investment when the mob shows up to loot or burn your investment to the ground. The only thing that you can do is to board your investment up and stencil "WE SUPPORT BLACK LIVES MATTER" on the plywood in an effort to appease the mob only to learn that appeasement is very much like what the great Winston S Churchill said is like feeding a crocodile with hopes that it will eat you last. If your business survives this than the government shuts you down due to COVID. If you are a restaurant you can have outdoor dining. You invest all this money to make an outdoor restaurant. The scientists say that the positivity rate is very low and not a significant contribution to the spread of the virus but the government comes along again and shuts this down because it will make them look like they are doing something even though it makes no difference. They shut schools in the same manner even though the positivity rate is ~0.2% and this makes no difference. The parents, that are lucky to still be working, have no way to watch their kids. Their kids by the way, are no longer learning. All you can do is pray...Now the geniuses want to close places of worship and are ready to back this up by arresting these people that enter a house of worship? You say "WHERE THE FUCK WITH YOU WHEN THE MOB WAS BURNING DOWN MY RESTAURANT?"
The Left doesn't follow the Science. It follows scientists of whom they agree with because it supports a narrative. If there is no debate, there is no science.
The Left doesn't follow the Science. It follows scientists of whom they agree with because it supports a narrative. If there is no debate, there is no science.
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It's actually not a fancy legal maneuver, it happens all the time in concurring opinions and is usually the reason for a separate concurring opinion.
Roberts is is an excellent Judge because he understands the role of the Supreme Court Judge. It is no different than a baseball umpire. He used that very analogy and once commented, "it's my job to call balls and strikes, and not to pitch or bat." The problem with you guys is you want to see Judges who pitch and bat, who in effect are tools for the President or else a certain policy agenda. They are not legislators nor are they serving a regulatory function. Nor is it their job to predetermine outcomes or look at a case and say, "we are going to use this to overrule Roe v. Wade." That would be stepping out of the umpire role and grabbing a bat and swinging at a pitch, something umpires are not allowed to do. Their job is to examine and interpret and evaluate a law that has been put in issue whether it be case law, statutory law, administrative law or sometimes executive orders. They evaluate its legal propriety based on the precedent law at hand.
There is a lot more to the Roe v. Wade decision than what you mentioned. They used a scientific analysis of the 3 trimesters of pregnancy and created a series of legal framework analyses for each of the 3 trimesters. Ultimately Roe v. Wade is rooted in the 10th amendment, even though they got there through a privacy right found in the penumbra of rights in the 14th amendment due process clause. Under the 3 trimester analysis, during the third trimester, abortions can be prohibited entirely so long as the state law contained exceptions for cases when they were necessary to save the life or health of the mother. So under that analysis they left it up to the States to regulate it, because the federal government is not involved in, nor should it be, in determining whether someone can abort a fetus/baby/child. They simply set up an analysis for evaluating State laws which do so and each State is free to do what they wish within that framework of analysis.
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A politician not politicizing?
You have been keeping too many late hours, either that or smoking some kind of really weird shit.
If I was Cuomo I wouldn’t take this Supreme Court decision lying down.
He should immediately close down all New York airports in retaliation as it is obvious all these people flying in are Catholics and Jews trying to attend religious services now that the court has ruled in their favour.
He should immediately close down all New York airports in retaliation as it is obvious all these people flying in are Catholics and Jews trying to attend religious services now that the court has ruled in their favour.
It seems like some are politicizing the Supreme Court decision. Those comparing this to other movements and who may feel as if their “bathed in Jesus blood” are more likely bathing in a pool of their own semen and moisturizer. Even the pope wrote an op ed about how he’s on side of science.
Cuomos decision to take the action he did was based on large, non socially distanced gatherings in the Hasidic Jewish community. There was one wedding with over 1000 people expected to attend, lol. Wtf? You can claim shit like we want to give people the ability to make their own decisions but when they are not, what are you supposed to do? I guess Cuomo coulda shut that community religious gathering down and maintained others who are having gatherings which are socially distanced and having people wearing masks. I’m not really for punishing everyone for one group not goin along
Cuomos decision to take the action he did was based on large, non socially distanced gatherings in the Hasidic Jewish community. There was one wedding with over 1000 people expected to attend, lol. Wtf? You can claim shit like we want to give people the ability to make their own decisions but when they are not, what are you supposed to do? I guess Cuomo coulda shut that community religious gathering down and maintained others who are having gatherings which are socially distanced and having people wearing masks. I’m not really for punishing everyone for one group not goin along
They should move the religious sermons into airport waiting areas and have travelling priests and rabbis on airplanes
Problem solved, where there is a will there is a way.
Cuomo is a fucking hypocrite of the highest order, everything he does is to benefit Cuomo at a later stage in his career.
Problem solved, where there is a will there is a way.
Cuomo is a fucking hypocrite of the highest order, everything he does is to benefit Cuomo at a later stage in his career.
More light reading.
tnc.news
Hajdu slanders journalist as “dangerous” and “fake news”
Liberal Health Minister Patty Hajdu slandered Anthony Furey as “dangerous” and “fake news” during Thursday’s question period for shining a light on recent coronavirus data.
tnc.news
I still don't understand why religions cannot conduct their services through Zoom just as all businesses are. Cuomo did act because NY does have large enclaves of Orthodox Jews in NYC, Westchester and Rockland Counties and they have been assembling in a manner that completely disregards all reasonable Covid protocols. Why do you think we are dealing with the surge we are dealing with? It's because certain people have not followed any reasonable protocols and have caused massive superspread events that become a problem for everyone. It's the same reason that Governor Lamont enacted the $10,000 fine executive order- you have a few bad apples that caused massive super spread events like the Hamden club that allowed a fistfight in their parking lot with 500 maskless onlookers that cops took over 30 minutes to disburse. The Hamden club was shut down but those incidents are why we have the $10,000 fine rule. People were shocked that something like that could happen but this is what happens when people are left to their own devices and laws are not being followed. Organized religions are businesses and they hold events to make money and they should be following the same rules as everyone else and not hiding behind constitutional provisions that have absolutely no application to these circumstances. Theirbright of assembly is NOT being interfered with. Everyone is free to do business and assemble online
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