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IamNY

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I still have that property if you're interested.

For 1 example, see: Germany.

I haven't posted more about it, or other leaders and their reactions because... why would I? I'm not as sure as you are that I would have posted about it.
Again, completely missing my original point which had nothing to do with what your talking about.
 

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Covid Was Hiding Among Colds and Flus
Too much focus on Washington and magic fixes has impeded grass-roots adaptation.

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By Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.
Nov. 27, 2020
i believe most of this and would like to believe all of this but I don't. It bothers me when 'journalists' quote studies but dont inlcude references (or links). The tipoff is talking about HCQ as an option...that has been debunked so many times...
 

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I am sure if you have a pulse you have seen it by now- the now legendary debate on Friday on live TV between Andrew Ross Sorkin and Rick Santelli. My question to you guys is, who was the winner?

(a) Sorkin, by unanimous decision
(b) Santelli, by unanimous decision
(c) Draw
(d) Split decision to Sorkin
(e) Split decision to Santelli

The now viral debate starts at the 1:30 mark of the video, although you may want to listen to Santelli's opening remarks before the fireworks start:

 

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Is anyone else sick of the phrase “the new normal?” I am and so is Spiked columnist Brendan O’Neill:


...what we are witnessing in all the talk of the new normal is an intensification of trends that have been apparent for quite a while. From safe sex to safe spaces on campus, from the depiction of a boozy come-on as a threat to one’s physical safety to the growing cult of germophobia, the elitist insistence that other people are a threat has been around for some time. Other people’s words will hurt you; sex with them could kill you; their wolf-whistle on the street is a dagger to the heart of your self-esteem. So you had better hide in this safe space that forcefields you from disagreeable ideas, always wear a condom, and phone the police if a stranger tells you you look fit. Misanthropic suspicion of others has been the meat of public-heath agitation and the political class’s nanny statism for years — the Covid crisis is merely taking it all to the next level.
 
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More good news for Americans. Trump will use the Defense Production Act if needed for vaccine distribution:

 

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This of course should endear Americans to the rest of the world.
On the one hand it is understandable on the other it will not make them a good citizen with the rest of the world.
Not one country likes to see their citizens dying waiting in line for a life saving drug.
 

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The world already hates Americans so there’s no love lost there. I think this is more of the ongoing fight that Trump has had with big pharmaceutical companies and it’s his way to prevent American companies to have their vaccine going to the highest bidder instead of Americans First. Being an American I’m certainly not going to look negatively at getting vaccinated first. But I could certainly see a company like Pfizer trying to focus on their profits first and not giving a shit about Americans.
 

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Not a big issue we will just get the Sputnik V, perhaps it will not only protect you but you may grow an extra dick in the process.
If it is good enough for Putin’s daughter we shouldn’t worry.
 

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it’s his way to prevent American companies to have their vaccine going to the highest bidder instead of Americans First.
First , if the world is not safe with a world vaccination, America will never be safe. Secondly, the highest bidder to steal masks and PPE from other countries were americans. Trump doesn't care about americans' safety. He is just a sore loser who lost again from what he tought was HIS Supreme Court as it is actualy Supreme Court of US. The only thing Trump cares about is himself. When his supporters will understand this ,America will be great again. but a lot of damage has been done.
 
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First , if the world is not safe with a world vaccination, America will never be safe. Secondly, the highest bidder to steal masks and PPE from other countries were americans. Trump doesn't care about americans' safety. He is just a sore loser who lost again from what he tought was HIS Supreme Court as it is actualy Supreme Court of US. The only thing Trump cares about is himself. When his supporters will understand this ,America will be great again. but a lot of damage has been done.
I have no idea what your talking about. America will never be safe? What does that mean? masks and PPE have nothing to do with what I'm talking about. How does Trump being a sore loser have anything to do with him ensuring Americans are vaccinated first? Supreme court? C'mon man, your all over the place. I gave my opinion about big pharmaceutical companies and their ridiculous greed. You on the other hand made it into an anti American/Trump thing which had nothing to do with my original post.
 
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It is obvious some can't walk and chew gum at the same time. It is very simple, repeat after me I T I S V E R Y S I M P L E. A lot of Trump's supporters a minority (after all they lost) but a bunch do not believe in this COVID pandemy. They gather, no mask, no social distancing and a lot will no get the vaccine for political ideological purposes. Even building a big beautifull, the most magnificent wall around USA... will not prevent americans coming back from countries with less access to the vaccines to bring back the virus. Unless people from outside USA also have access to the vaccines. If you don't get it, I give up!
 
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^ I think you are slightly confused here. People do discuss vaccines in this thread, but they are COVID-19 vaccines, TDS is being discussed elsewhere.
 

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Not just Republicans, a clip I found


Still, the hundreds of responses from Republicans and Democrats that did express these views highlight a growing divide among partisans about coronavirus-related restrictions and safety measures. In June, 77% of Democrats – compared with 45% of Republicans – said they were very or somewhat concerned that they might unknowingly spread COVID-19 to others. And nearly two-thirds of Democrats (64%) were very or somewhat concerned that they would personally get COVID-19 and require hospitalization, while just 35% of Republicans expressed the same concern. In the same survey, Democrats were about twice as likely as Republicans to say that people in their community should always wear a mask (63% vs. 29%).

At the same time, the Center has also found that majorities in both parties say they are making regular use of masks, even if some may be skeptical about their effectiveness. In August, 92% of Democrats and 76% of Republicans said that they had worn a mask or face covering when in stores or other businesses most or all of the time during the prior month.

Republicans, Democrats differ on why masks are a downside of COVID-19 | Pew Research Center
 

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It is obvious some can't walk and chew gum at the same time. It is very simple, repeat after me I T I S V E R Y S I M P L E. A lot of Trump's supporters a minority (after all they lost) but a bunch do not believe in this COVID pandemy. They gather, no mask, no social distancing and a lot will no get the vaccine for political ideological purposes. Even building a big beautifull, the most magnificent wall around USA... will not prevent americans coming back from countries with less access to the vaccines to bring back the virus. Unless people from outside USA also have access to the vaccines. If you don't get it, I give up!
Uhm, Pfizer, vaccine, etc. Seriously have no idea what your talking about. You will probably have a better time in the anti Trump threads. I'm talking about Pfizer and vaccines, not, well, whatever it is your talking about.

Merry Christmas
 
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Where are these people? Trump carried my county for example and every place I go people are wearing masks at
The supermarket and big box stores. Are only the better informed Biden supporters going out? When I go down state I see everyone is wearing a mask. You can tell the Democrats. They’re the ones wearing a mask inside the car driving down the highway or out riding a bike wearing a mask...but they have the benefit of science. BTW, you can question the effectiveness of the mask while still wearing them.
 
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