Coronavirus

[Fradi]

If New York can under-report over 10,000 deaths than imagine what countries under dictatorships are under-reporting......probably millions of unreported deaths.

Of course to some it is just another flu and nothing serious, not a reason for them to wear a facial diaper or get vaccinated.
At least some countries and now Quebec have introduced a vaccine passport to only allow vaccinated people entrance to non essential services. Unfortunately the Delta variant seems to be infecting more and more fully vaccinated also and perhaps a booster will be needed more urgently than thought. They have already started in Israel with people over 60.

 

[cloudsurf]

According to results from Israel.......some experts are worried that vaccines alone won`t stop the pandemic.
Other proven safety methods, like washing hands , masks and social distancing. must still apply. Until children under 12 are vaccinated herd immunity is impossible.

 

[gaby]

Same observation will apply here in Québec and Canada...Québec with 77% des sa population fully vaccinated still have hundreds and hundreds positive tests every day.....it's far from over....and for sure the sanitary measures------washing hands, masks and distanciation---will still apply for long long time.

 

[gaby]

QUÉBEC only ---today---- 603 nouveaux cas.....119 hospitalisations +9......36 intensive care +3......so not going right direction despite tous nos efforts.

 

[gallantca]

^^^^The US has 49 other states, but, only one of them is doing this:

COVID In Florida: More Than 10,000 Have Received Monoclonal Antibody Treatment

More than 10,000 people in Florida have received the monoclonal antibody treatment to try to prevent severe illness from COVID-19, a top state official said Wednesday.

miami.cbslocal.com

Better a multi-thousand experimental drug than a $30 approved drug. Makes sense!

 

[Like_It_Hot]

I like your sarcasm! But not sure everybody will catch it. It has no sens to give monoclonal antibodies in prevention. Within a few weeks those antibodies will have vanished... When you get a vaccine or are really infected, your immunity system reacts in 2 important different ways. 1- Antibodies are produced to fight right the best they can 2- Some white cells are produced. They keep in memory the id of the antigen and fight it. They stay in the body replicating themselves giving you a permanent protection against the antigen (the virus). This second part is the most important for long time protection.

What Florida is doing is giving matches to millions irresponsible kids letting them to go around the states and start fires everywhere. Then they buy a super fire truck and hoping to fix the tragic situation they created. Just pathetic!

 

[gallantca]

I like your sarcasm!

Sarcasm ? Moi .....? Never

Here is what happens when a bunch of scholars decide to have a get together

South Dakota Covid cases quintuple after Sturgis motorcycle rally

Meade County, home to Sturgis, has had a more than 1,500 percent increase in cases in the past 14 days.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Like_It_Hot]

California vs Florida, 2 different approaches toward this summer rise in COVID. A very good article.
Florida is the only state where more people are dying of covid now than ever before.

“What’s different in Florida is that, relative to the vaccination rate (~50%), the relaxation of distancing and masking was disproportionately high. Leaders expressed disdain for masks and mask mandates. The total number of people unvaccinated is high. And hospitals got overwhelmed.” In june, when Delta took off, Florida doubled down on his opposition to mask mandates, prohibiting local governments and even local school districts from implementing such policies.

Florida is the only state where more people are dying of COVID now than ever before. What went wrong?

Ron DeSantis is the first (and so far only) governor in the U.S. whose state is now recording more COVID-19 deaths each day — long after free, safe and effective vaccines became widely available to all Americans age 12 or older — than during any previous wave of the virus.

news.yahoo.com

 

[IamNY]

Better a multi-thousand experimental drug than a $30 approved drug. Makes sense!

My only point is that there are other states besides Texas, Florida, and South Dakota that could be in the conversation about COVID. And I've never seen so much coverage of the Sturgis bike rally in my life. There's plenty of large gatherings all over the country. There's no doubt why the media picked this event. All large events happening in all of the states is an issue.

 

[gallantca]

My only point is that there are other states besides Texas, Florida, and South Dakota that could be in the conversation about COVID. And I've never seen so much coverage of the Sturgis bike rally in my life. There's plenty of large gatherings all over the country. There's no doubt why the media picked this event. All large events happening in all of the states is an issue.

Agreed. I think we were lucky that Delta didn't have it's foot in the door yet when the Habs were playing.

 

[Like_It_Hot]

Aucune opinion dans ce post, seulement des données. Dans le lien ci-bas vous trouverez les données sur les différents pays.
Je n'ai gardé que le taux de mortalité pour 100,000 habitants. Certains chiffres peuvent à première vue sembler étonnant. Pourquoi si peu de morts en Afrique? Le virus original frappait surtout les gens de 70 ans et plus. Malheureusement l'espérance de vie des Africains est souvent en deçà de 60 ans... Bien sûr, les conditions climatiques peuvent aussi favoriser ou au défavoriser la résistance et la contagion du virus. Les données fournis ne sont pas toujours fiables par manque de moyens ou autres. Perso, j'ai été heureusement surpris que le Canada performe aussi bien qu'Israël.
Je vous laisse tirer vos propres conclusions.
Si vous consulter le site original (John Hopkins University) vous verrez que les pays sont justement classés par le taux de mortalité pour 100,000 habitants.

Source : https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

 

[sene5hos]

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

The principal mode by which people are infected with SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) is through exposure to respiratory fluids carrying infectious virus.
Exposure occurs in three principal ways: (1) inhalation of very fine respiratory droplets and aerosol particles, (2) deposition of respiratory droplets and particles on exposed mucous membranes in the mouth, nose, or eye by direct splashes and sprays, and (3) touching mucous membranes with hands that have been soiled either directly by virus-containing respiratory fluids or indirectly by touching surfaces with virus on them.

Prevention of COVID-19 transmission:
These include physical distancing, community use of well-fitting masks (e.g., barrier face coverings, procedure/surgical masks), adequate ventilation, and avoidance of crowded indoor spaces.
These methods will reduce transmission both from inhalation of virus and deposition of virus on exposed mucous membranes.
Transmission through soiled hands and surfaces can be prevented by practicing good hand hygiene and by environmental cleaning.

 

[wetnose]

Aucune opinion dans ce post, seulement des données. Dans le lien ci-bas vous trouverez les données sur les différents pays.
Je n'ai gardé que le taux de mortalité pour 100,000 habitants. Certains chiffres peuvent à première vue sembler étonnant. Pourquoi si peu de morts en Afrique? Le virus original frappait surtout les gens de 70 ans et plus. Malheureusement l'espérance de vie des Africains est souvent en deçà de 60 ans... Bien sûr, les conditions climatiques peuvent aussi favoriser ou au défavoriser la résistance et la contagion du virus. Les données fournis ne sont pas toujours fiables par manque de moyens ou autres. Perso, j'ai été heureusement surpris que le Canada performe aussi bien qu'Israël.
Je vous laisse tirer vos propres conclusions.
Si vous consulter le site original (John Hopkins University) vous verrez que les pays sont justement classés par le taux de mortalité pour 100,000 habitants.

Source : https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

I always look at numbers from economically disadvantaged countries with a pinch of salt since they just don't have the resources (physical test kits, labs or personnel) to test their populations completely. In some countries, testing is not free either so poor people can't even afford to get tested.

So the numbers could be dramatically higher. The best measure IMO is to look at excess mortality - the recorded # of deaths above the expected # of deaths.

 

[Like_It_Hot]

^^^^^^^ Your comment is very pertinent. Although in some countries, specially African ones where there are a lot of civil wars and other health issues, it is difficult to conclude from where the difference in global mortality comes from. But I think we can trust numbers and directly compares Canada with US, France, UK, Germany and similar countries with equivalent GDP and health services.

 

[wetnose]

^^^^^^^ Your comment is very relevant. Although in some countries, specially African ones where there are a lot of civil wars and other health issues, it is difficult to conclude from where the difference in global mortality comes from. But I think we can trust numbers and directly compares Canada with US, France, UK, Germany and similar countries with equivalent GDP and health services.

The US #s are suspect since health is a state responsibility and some of the state politicians have a political interest in keeping COVID casualties understated.

Back in June, academics estimated that deaths in the US was 300,000 short of the real #.

 

[sene5hos]

Thursday in USA

+ 187 k new cases
2,210 dead

 

[cloudsurf]

What is sad is that those stats for the most part were preventable if anti-vaxxers were smarter and less selfish.

 

[IamNY]

Friday in Quebec:

603 new cases
9 dead

 

[TheJames101]

What is sad is that those stats for the most part were preventable if anti-vaxxers were smarter and less selfish.

yep - though then they wouldn't be anti-vaxxers.

 

[sene5hos]

What is sad is that those stats for the most part were preventable if anti-vaxxers were smarter and less selfish.

And what about all the negative effects on their families and friends, and on society in general.