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cloudsurf

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Sorry but you give false info, please show a link where they are refusing, the vaccines we have are booked. Alberta is on course with vaccines as the rest of Canada. Perhaps get your facts straight.

Here you go Sol...Alberta’s current COVID-19 status worse than every province and state: Former top doctor (msn.com)

Read between the lines.
 
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Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
Read between the lines.
You mean add your own lines :). Again, show something about Albertans refusing the vaccines, nothing in your article says that, it even proves my point of doses administered. I see you do have a cheering section starting though. I know you can do better than that as you must have some sort of proof, no?
 

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CBC poll: Some heartening data about vaccines in Alberta, but intransigence remains​

Interesting: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/road-ahead-cbc-poll-anti-vacination-jen-gerson-1.5998301
"It's as if those most opposed to lockdowns are also those who are most likely to hate the most powerful tool at our disposal to end them. Imagine being locked in a cage for a year, then being handed a key, and insisting you'd rather stay imprisoned, as the cell offers a better perch from which to rail about the tyranny of your cage. "

"As many as half of all Albertans surveyed said they planned to get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as it was available to them; a further 14 per cent said they had already received a first dose at the time of polling. About one-in-five wanted to wait to see how the vaccine campaign rolled out, and watch for interactions or side effects. Only 14 per cent of Albertans are not planning to take the shot.

That means a majority of Albertans — almost 65 per cent — are or will soon be vaccinated." Is this good news? When we know 75% and more may be needed for herd immunity?

"We can also hope the wavering 20 per cent will come around when they see their peer group return to life as normal. After all, the odds that anyone will actually know someone who suffers from a serious vaccine complication, such as the two non-fatal blood clots so far reported in Canada, are very small. For the vast majority, this will be a seamless and uneventful process — albeit an unpleasant one. "
 

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You are right Cloudsurf.

I just listened to a report on LCN, and Alberta has become the worst place in North America for the number of covid cases.
 
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sene5hos

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Maxime Bernier is the least credible politician in Quebec. He needs votes so badly that he went to the demonstration.
Now he is considered a conspirator.

www.journaldemontreal.com www.journaldemontreal.com

In Drummondville, a woman who changed her mind at the hospital.
used to be vaccinated died from COVID-19 on Saturday. On her deathbed, she wanted to warn all those who thought like her and who denounced the measures.
“It took five days and she suffered true martyrdom. She was in pain all over and had difficulty breathing, "says her younger sister, Monic Beaudoin.

However, Gisèle Beaudoin had moved away from her family in recent months, gradually falling into a conspiratorial spiral, according to her sister.

“She would get up at 4 am to watch all the videos of these people and send them to us on Facebook,” she says. At one point, I had to tell her husband to respect my opinion"
Monic Beaudoin can hardly believe that, on the day of her sister's death, tens of thousands of people stormed the streets of Montreal to demonstrate against sanitation measures.
But according to her, the deceased could also very well have been one of the number, she who had refused the vaccine which would undoubtedly have saved her life.

To respect her last wishes, her husband will finally be vaccinated soon.

"She said it was just the flu, that there were no more deaths this year. She changed her mind at the hospital.
 

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We got it bad on the first wave 1 year ago. Our CHSLD were not prepared to this and we have much more elderly than other provinces and and more of them are in those CHSLD where contagion happened.. But we learned from that and we are now getting out of this third wave in better shape. Our vaccination is going well, 37,7% as of 11am today. Daily cases dropped dramatically since 1 month on drastic actions. We learned as opposed to other, misinformed and reckless.
À bon entendeur, salut!
 

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The REAL situation today. This map gives total cases for the last 7 days. We can easily see that the situation is tragic in Alberta and Ontario.
Source: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html

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gallantca

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If Quebec has the most dismal record in Canada, then what would you call Alberta `s record these days with 4 times the the per capita rate of Quebec in new cases. Maybe Alberta has already left the Canadian dominion so they don`t count.
Quebec has 10959 deaths with 8.5M people
Ontario has 8143 deaths with 14.6M people
Alberta has 2099 deaths with4.4M people

It was not all first wave. Until Mid March Quebec had the highest per capita death rate per day.
 

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Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
If Quebec has the most dismal record in Canada, then what would you call Alberta `s record these days
Deaths worry us more than cases, the majority of people with cases do not even know they have this deadly virus. Once you take out the people over 80 you wonder why the entire economy is ruined over this. Just my opinion. And yes, there could have been a far better solution to this.
 

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We got it bad on the first wave 1 year ago. Our CHSLD were not prepared to this and we have much more elderly than other provinces and and more of them are in those CHSLD where contagion happened.. But we learned from that and we are now getting out of this third wave in better shape. Our vaccination is going well, 37,7% as of 11am today. Daily cases dropped dramatically since 1 month on drastic actions. We learned as opposed to other, misinformed and reckless.
À bon entendeur, salut!

I agree the vaccination campaign is as good as it could have got. The decision (although a gamble at the time) to go single shot, the choice to emphasize Montreal were the right decisions and they deserve credit for this. Ontario's vaccination is not as efficient. Their reservation systems suck and overall things are slower.

Here is death per million and case per million data. Red Quebec, Blue Ontario, Green Alberta. We see that Quebec did poorly on the first two waves in terms of deaths. It was not just the first wave. And this is what pisses me off. First wave was a surprise to everyone and yes the CHLSD were an issue. 3rd wave is all about variants and is a new game. But second wave was avoidable. And I do not understand the high death rate vs cases in the 2nd wave.

The second chart (cases) shows Alberta did poorly on cases in the 2nd and third wave. What is scary is it continues to rise. Ontario has the worst behind it

So I still believe Quebec's record is not to be bragged about. However Legault has shown more leadership than is Ontario counterpart.


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Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
Too many people in the west are refusing the jab . Alberta will take a long time to reach herd immunity with their negative mentality.
Hate to beat a dead horse but Alberta has 14% who will not take it but Quebec has 25%
For Quebec to reach the vaccination rate of roughly 80 per cent health authorities believe necessary to quell COVID-19, it must find a way to convince one-quarter of the population still reluctant to get their shot.
Regular polls taken since the beginning of the pandemic show the number of people hesitant to get vaccinated for COVID-19 has stayed stable at 25 per cent, including eight per cent who are considered extremely reluctant.



Well .....
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