Sweet Angle Smile
Montreal Escorts

Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

RobertNYC

Well-Known Member
Sep 6, 2017
482
376
63
Don’t you think this is exactly what LE wants, make clients panic so they stop seeing escorts? The point of C-36 is to stop the demand, not the offer. They did a good job.
Why does LE want clients to stop seeing escorts? Like, why now, unless I missed an announcement? And that would mean Independents would be at risk nearly as much as agencies, as LE could watch clients entering even a residence.

I think we’ve all jumped the shark here. Back to regularly scheduled programming. Be safe. Have fun. There’s not a sex cop around every corner waiting with cuffs.
 

Flabert

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
567
619
93
The communication says that you asked for sex services even if you didn't get the appointment, they yeah you are cooked
This woman enslaved another woman and pimped her for months. No jail time.


This one (today’s news) worked for an agency as a driver for months and pimped a 16 year old (she was in 11th grade and would do 5-6 clients a night).


Not guilty verdict (the female judge is known for being a bit… insane). The dpcp is appealing because what he admitted to was enough to be found guilty.

Hard to imagine they would press charges for ambiguous texts. They could do some bench plea for John school.

They could do a sting for clients though. A bunch of people caught in the act in the same operation is cost effective.
 

davydream52

New Member
Mar 8, 2020
17
10
3
This woman enslaved another woman and pimped her for months. No jail time.


This one (today’s news) worked for an agency as a driver for months and pimped a 16 year old (she was in 11th grade and would do 5-6 clients a night).


Not guilty verdict (the female judge is known for being a bit… insane). The dpcp is appealing because what he admitted to was enough to be found guilty.

Hard to imagine they would press charges for ambiguous texts. They could do some bench plea for John school.

They could do a sting for clients though. A bunch of people caught in the act in the same operation is cost effective.
I am not saying you would be proven guilty. But if they want to give clients a hard time then a traceable text with clear intention is enough. And this can easily destroy people's careers, personal relationships and also financial ordeal.

In Massachusetts brothel trials, the clients or "sex buyers" wanted to remain anonymous but media houses and social workers protested and their names were released in multiple stages with hearings streamed live.
 

Fradi

Well-Known Member
Apr 9, 2019
4,808
8,623
113
Around the corner
Yep as per Bill C-36. All they need are the texts. Even asking for a booking makes you guilty of solicitation for sexual services. Whether they will go after the clients or not is another story. But they can if they want to. The law is very broad and it was designed in this way on purpose.
No it doesn’t.
There is no law in asking for an escort for companionship, it is perfectly legal.
They cannot prove you didn’t want a guided tour of Montreal or just a companion for dinner or whatever.
As long as your text doesn’t contain reference to any kind of sexual activity GFE etc… they have nothing.
 

EagerBeaver

Veteran of Misadventures
Jul 11, 2003
22,212
4,760
113
U.S.A.
Visit site
I suspect it is the reason, this thread is 46 pages long now. People secretly looking if they're in trouble or not. I don't think we are.
I think you are right that the audience on MERB is waiting for the other shoe to drop and a new story on a client being charged as a result of this investigation. I have had a few PMs from board members asking me about this as well. Like you I don't think anyone is in trouble, except the 5 people already charged.

But this fear is driving this thread and makes me once again have to call on Franklin to remind you of this:
 

LeDodo

The hopeless romantic introvert and metrosexual
Jun 8, 2025
3,207
3,812
113
No it doesn’t.
There is no law in asking for an escort for companionship, it is perfectly legal.
They cannot prove you didn’t want a guided tour of Montreal or just a companion for dinner or whatever.
As long as your text doesn’t contain reference to any kind of sexual activity GFE etc… they have nothing.
Well we all know that GFE stands for Good and Funny Encounter !
 

EagerBeaver

Veteran of Misadventures
Jul 11, 2003
22,212
4,760
113
U.S.A.
Visit site
No it doesn’t.
There is no law in asking for an escort for companionship, it is perfectly legal.
They cannot prove you didn’t want a guided tour of Montreal or just a companion for dinner or whatever.
As long as your text doesn’t contain reference to any kind of sexual activity GFE etc… they have nothing.
100% correct. In fact sexless dates are often booked. The prosecution has to prove you booked the date for sex. If you just booked a date, they have shit.
 

Giselle Montreal

Supporting Member
Sep 28, 2014
1,262
3,761
113
www.gisellemille.com
Why does LE want clients to stop seeing escorts? Like, why now, unless I missed an announcement? And that would mean Independents would be at risk nearly as much as agencies, as LE could watch clients entering even a residence.

I think we’ve all jumped the shark here. Back to regularly scheduled programming. Be safe. Have fun. There’s not a sex cop around every corner waiting with cuffs.
I meant that all I read are clients panicking, I am not! And make clients reflect and end the demand is the goal of our Canadian law. It might not last, but clearly taking down that agency touched a nerve.
 

AnthonyAnderson

Well-Known Member
Sep 13, 2025
677
1,108
93
37
#FaitesVosRecherches

#DoYourHomework


Starting points:
  • Criminal Code section 286.1
  • What constitutes sufficient evidence to lay a criminal charge
  • "Innocent until proven guilty"
  • Which standards must be met to secure a criminal conviction
  • Reasonable doubt
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: DetectiveDavidMills

LeDodo

The hopeless romantic introvert and metrosexual
Jun 8, 2025
3,207
3,812
113
I meant that all I read are clients panicking, I am not! And make clients reflect and end the demand is the goal of our Canadian law. It might not last, but clearly taking down that agency touched a nerve.
Is it like the stock market?

When there is a crash and people panicking, there are others steady bunch who benefits from it?
 

Fradi

Well-Known Member
Apr 9, 2019
4,808
8,623
113
Around the corner
Is it like the stock market?

When there is a crash and people panicking, there are others steady bunch who benefits from it?
I don’t see any benefit in booking with an agency other than price.
I will pay the extra for an Indy I know and trust.
 

CLOUD 500

Well-Known Member
Jan 10, 2005
8,525
6,460
113
No it doesn’t.
There is no law in asking for an escort for companionship, it is perfectly legal.
They cannot prove you didn’t want a guided tour of Montreal or just a companion for dinner or whatever.
As long as your text doesn’t contain reference to any kind of sexual activity GFE etc… they have nothing.
Screenshot_20260323_215015_Google.jpg This is what I found. But you might be right. They have to prove that you sent a text to buy sexual services so if there is nothing explicit then they got no case. Then again I am not a lawyer. Perhaps @EagerBeaver can shed some light in this even from a US perspective.
 

neverbored

NF*G
Aug 17, 2003
784
643
113
en.wikipedia.org
Wow... leave for a week and come back to the creaziest thread I've ever seen. Its as if circle jerk and dumpster fire collided. Girls were raped, exploited and coerced. I hope they get convicted. Will be an interesting case to follow. Sadly, I don't expect that much of a sentence. They deserve it if true imho.

Why would you expect the site to be down? The agency is likely saying they’re engaged in no wrong doing, and Xo attorneys aren’t suggesting to take it down.

LE probably doesn’t have authority to take it down, and if it’s hosted overseas….good luck.

I'm willing to bet when Sam "retired", new management simply didn't have the credentials to the webhosting. Considerering its just some 4$ cheap hosting and didn't move, they probably didn't have access to the domain name provider. It was renewed in Jan so, a credit card is on file and possibly just autorenewed. Hosting seems to be Eastern European with a "presence" in the US, don't know how compliant they would be.

I suspect new management just had access to the website CMS. Remember when the exodus started, they only removed the english content, and left the french site up. I think they just didn't know how. Probably why they eventually rebranded.

Also, nowadys, IP addresses are a nightmare due to all the public wifi access, people sharing the same external IP really isn't as useful as people think on top of that sites are getting hammered with AI traffic too. So your IP is a needle in a sea of needles. Not saying they can't dig, but like other said, they probably just want to focus on convicting the principals before having to go that route. Cookies, typically don't store on the server, they are created on your device.

Cel phone... that one could be a bitch especially if they can match it with IMEI. With federal and provincial National digital identity systems and INN laws, that could be easier to get details on mobile # owners faster than trying to subpoena a telecom or just pay data brokers directly. That would give them access to banking, legal, medical databases to connect the dots. Even if they don't use it to go after clients, wouldn't be surprised if they don't just ingest the numbers into their framework just like they do with DNA. If it eventually connects to CBA. Any ArriveCan users ?

In the end, after a torturous read, my concern is Merb itself.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TheJames101

LeDodo

The hopeless romantic introvert and metrosexual
Jun 8, 2025
3,207
3,812
113
It's the harsh truth. We all want to believe the agencies we use or used are behaving responsibly. It's often probably just wishful thinking.
Well I think there is no blanket statement for their operations. With the different ladies sharing we can see that there are an uneven treatment spanning from coercive to "understanding".
 
  • Like
Reactions: RobertNYC

RobertNYC

Well-Known Member
Sep 6, 2017
482
376
63
100% correct. In fact sexless dates are often booked. The prosecution has to prove you booked the date for sex. If you just booked a date,

It's the harsh truth. We all want to believe the agencies we use or used are behaving responsibly. It's often probably just wishful thinking.

Well I think there is no blanket statement for their operations. With the different ladies sharing we can see that there are an uneven treatment spanning from coercive to "understanding".
You’ll never know what goes on inside an agency, but I would also argue you’ll also never know what’s going on inside a family, a marriage or corporate department from the outside. It pays to have our antennae up.

I think we can empathize with those abused and most of us want to eliminate any affront to human dignity as much as we can, especially assault, rape and any other violence within the industry. And we certainly don’t want to patronize the bad actors.

That said, when we start to conflate escort fines, termination etc with violence, I think we’ve jumped the shark. I just saw an excellent co-worker at a major corporation get put on a PIP to build a case to fire him. 23 years as an excellent employee, but they don’t want to pay a big severance. That’s abuse, that’s unfair, unjust, but it goes on all over, sadly. It’s the assault, rape etc we need to pay attention to. I guess what I’m saying is, when we start to throw the smaller infractions in with the big stuff, we dilute the arguments.

Not every agency is abusive. There’s not a sex cop around every Montreal corner. I can tell you I’ve bumped into NJ escorts laughing and walking with friends on the Wildwood boardwalk and in north Jersey restaurants. That gives me comfort and puts mind at ease regarding those agencies.
 
Last edited:
Ashley Madison