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Wells NEVER Wanted Brady's Phone!
DeflateGate’s real issue: Due process
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...da3b02-3666-11e5-9d0f-7865a67390ee_story.html
About that exploding cellphone. You know, the one NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell seems to think belonged to Machine Gun Kelly and was used in the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby, as well as the Krupp diamond theft. The one that Ted Wells said he didn’t want or need to complete his investigation into DeflateGate. The one the NFL’s own investigator said wasn’t necessary to the case.
That one.
Wells never asked for Tom Brady’s cellphone and didn’t require it. “Keep the phone,” Wells told Brady and his agent. He insisted his investigation was thorough without it. “I don’t think it undermines in any way the conclusions of the report,” he said. Those were his exact words. So were these, after interrogating Brady for more than five hours: “Totally cooperative,” Wells said of Brady’s testimony.
Yet somehow Goodell found Brady guilty of lack of cooperation and willful destruction of evidence on appeal, all because he upgraded to an iPhone 6?
There are two separate issues here. One is whether Brady and the Patriots knowingly softened game balls in the AFC championship game — and it seems clear from the league’s own recent rule changes that it doesn’t have enough evidence one way or the other on that, given its sloppy procedures and the fact that it treated ball inflation as not worth monitoring. The second, larger matter is that of the league’s basic due process.
Watching this case closely and curiously is John Dowd, the special counsel who conducted Major League Baseball’s investigation into Pete Rose and got him banned from the game. As a neutral observer, Dowd finds the abuse of process in DeflateGate to be the real scandal. “I still don’t know what this is about. . . . Like ‘Seinfeld,’ this is about nothing,” he said in an e-mail. He called Goodell’s ruling against Brady based on a sudden issue over Brady’s cellphone “an ambush” and added, “The entire NFL disciplinary process lacks integrity and fairness.”
Goodell’s rulings are always so much livelier than the man himself. One reason they’re so entertaining is because he always doubles back. It’s like watching a kid do a Spirograph. First he gave Ray Rice a two-game suspension for slugging his wife, when he thought no one was watching. When it turned out the world was watching, he suddenly accused Rice of lying to him and declared an indefinite suspension. A federal judge overturned him, finding Goodell not credible.
You see the same pattern here. Brady’s phone was unimportant — until it was important because Goodell needed it to be to rescue his prestige.
Neither Wells nor Goodell ever notified Brady that not producing his phone would mean discipline for non-cooperation. On Wednesday, the NFL Players Association filed a 54-page lawsuit on Brady’s behalf making that point. The issue Brady and his team thought they were addressing in his Wells interview and appeal was the inflation of game balls. According to Dowd, this compromises the whole matter: Goodell moved the finish line.
“The NFL commissioner has denied Tom Brady the fundamental right to a notice of charge and the right to defend against it,” Dowd says.
There is another pattern here — a very unseemly pattern of unethical behavior by the league office under Goodell’s leadership. First, there is always a leak from the league that commands a big headline and gins up public indignation. Next comes a disciplinary hammer from Goodell that makes him look like a hero-protector. But when the excitement dies down and actual facts emerge, it all turns out to be a souped-up overreach.
It happened with the leak of a false report from the league office that 11 of 12 Patriots balls were under-inflated by a full two pounds per square inch. It happened with the science of the Wells report that would later be shredded. And it’s happened again over the phone. It’s only when you go back and examine the Wells report and study Goodell’s written decision more closely that you discover the phone was never demanded as evidence. You also discover Footnote No. 11.
Goodell’s own buried footnote says that during the appeal before him, Brady and his agents furnished comprehensive cellphone records, including records of 10,000 text messages, and offered to help find and reconstruct all relevant communications.
Goodell rejected the offer as “not practical.” Actually nothing would have been easier. Brady’s phone records showed he communicated with just 28 league-affiliated people. It was clear from the phone numbers which of them were Patriots employees in a position to manipulate game balls. It should have been a simple matter to discern whether Brady destroyed relevant communications with them.
“My question to Wells is: Do you have information that there were communications missing?” Dowd asks. “And didn’t you conclude you had enough?”
Goodell chose to ignore Brady’s offer and put it in a footnote. Why? Because he has been badly embarrassed this year and wanted a big headline case instead of admitting that the league had again made mistakes?
Look, there is no doubt Brady expressed his preference for a softer ball to the Patriots’ equipment people. All quarterbacks are neurotics on that score, and equipment managers would feel obliged to please. But that is quite different from an orchestrated criminal-level “scheme.” And it’s a salient fact that none of this affected the outcome of a 45-7 game in which virtually all of the scoring came in the second half with re-inflated balls.
“I still don’t know what this is about,” Dowd says. “Where is the advantage?”
The first instinct on hearing Brady “destroyed” his cell is to blast him for arrogance and stupidity and call him guilty. But then, because it’s Goodell in charge, the questions creep in. Wasn’t it Brady himself who voluntarily disclosed he got rid of his old cell and upgraded? Does it really make sense that Brady would intentionally destroy a phone it was agreed he wasn’t obliged to turn over?
In fact, none of it has ever made sense.
Just the FACTS,
Merlot
Honest fans,
Losing faith in Roger Goodell and the NFL after Deflategate | The MMQB with Peter King
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/08/06/roger-goodell-nfl-deflategate-dez-bryant-fight-chip-kelly
1. I think the more I read about Deflategate, the less faith I have in the NFL. I’m not saying Tom Brady and the Patriots are totally innocent, but no sensible person would describe the league’s proof as being anything close to “beyond a reasonable doubt.” And just because the CBA doesn’t say it has to be doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be. I’m not big on calling for someone’s firing, but Roger Goodell went after the sport’s grandest star (maybe ever) and this decade’s most accomplished franchise. In doing so, he created a gargantuan distraction for both during Super Bowl week. Then he allowed the misinformation from that distraction to percolate for many months, damaging the brand of all parties involved (including, indirectly, the league’s). This is the antithesis of “protecting The Shield.” Barring a turn of events in this Deflategate saga—and with the way things have gone, there very well could be another turn of events—Goodell should lose his job.
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!
Merlot
Losing faith in Roger Goodell and the NFL after Deflategate | The MMQB with Peter King
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/08/06/roger-goodell-nfl-deflategate-dez-bryant-fight-chip-kelly
1. I think the more I read about Deflategate, the less faith I have in the NFL. I’m not saying Tom Brady and the Patriots are totally innocent, but no sensible person would describe the league’s proof as being anything close to “beyond a reasonable doubt.” And just because the CBA doesn’t say it has to be doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be. I’m not big on calling for someone’s firing, but Roger Goodell went after the sport’s grandest star (maybe ever) and this decade’s most accomplished franchise. In doing so, he created a gargantuan distraction for both during Super Bowl week. Then he allowed the misinformation from that distraction to percolate for many months, damaging the brand of all parties involved (including, indirectly, the league’s). This is the antithesis of “protecting The Shield.” Barring a turn of events in this Deflategate saga—and with the way things have gone, there very well could be another turn of events—Goodell should lose his job.
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!
Merlot
Honest fans,
Hurley: Sure Seems Like Brady Is Going To Beat Goodell In Court
By Michael Hurley, CBS Boston
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/08/...like-brady-is-going-to-beat-goodell-in-court/
We’ve read the transcripts. We’ve (strangely) read Tom Brady’s private emails. And now that we have our wits about us and have had ample to think about it, we can say this: Tom Brady is going to win in court.
There was some doubt before. Very rarely does a judge rule to overturn the decision of an arbitrator, we were told. But has Judge Richard Berman done one thing to hint he’s leaning toward favoring the NFL? And has so convoluted and embarrassing a case ever come before him?
No, and no. If anything, the judge has acted in ways that have helped the union thus far, with no decision being bigger than the one to make public the transcripts of Brady’s appeal hearing.
We now know the full arsenal of each side.
Brady has dozens upon dozens of on-the-record, under-oath denials of any awareness of or participation in any activity that violates any rule.
The NFL has only its same flawed case, one that can be ripped to shreds by even armchair attorneys whose entire legal experience amounts to owning a keyboard and watching Law & Order once (hello).
The NFL has no big play, no ace in the hole. In fact, the league came away from the public release of the transcripts looking worse. We know that Tom Brady was punished based on a document which does not apply to players and is never distributed to players. We know the league has to perform mental gymnastics in order to differentiate the Vikings/sideline heaters situation with the alleged acts in New England. We know that the NFL rooted its decision entirely on the Wells report, which rooted its basis in science performed by Exponent, and we know that Exponent’s methodology was simply wrong.
All Roger Goodell has is the hope that his lawyers can interpret the CBA in such a way that convinces Judge Berman that the entire process took place on the up and up.
But anyone who reads the transcripts from that “appeal hearing” knows that it was an affront to modern human society. Page 278 of the document noted that upon seeing how the proceedings were taking place, a kangaroo hopped out of his seat and bolted from the meeting room, disgusted by the farce that was taking place in front of his little kangaroo eyes.
It was a sham of the highest order, with NFL lawyers arguing to and for the NFL, with Goodell checking in from time to time to show he lacked knowledge of basic facts. Every single point made by Jeffrey Kessler on behalf of Brady and the NFLPA was summarily dismissed by Goodell as irrelevant, false, or a lie.
Not one person who reads that transcript could come away thinking Goodell ruled fairly and impartially. Even Goodell himself would come to that conclusion — that is, if he had the attention span to read the whole thing. That’s a shaky proposition, considering his comments during the proceedings demonstrated that he struggled to keep up throughout the hearing.
So no, Brady will not agree to settle and take a one-game suspension, as some of us had suggested as being a reasonable compromise as recently as Tuesday afternoon. Nope. Brady won’t be suspended at all.
The NFL spent an incredible amount of time and effort over the past six and a half months toward winning the public relations battle. On that account, they won. Huzzah.
But Kessler and the NFLPA has focused its energy on winning the case. At 5:53 on June 23, Kessler realized he had won.
It was at that exact moment that Kessler, after sitting in a room with the NFL’s brain trust for eight hours, knew exactly who and what he was dealing with.
“I would like to propose on behalf of the Union that we can release this transcript of this today,” Kessler told the room. “I would like the NFL to think about that. That’s our proposal. Despite that, I’m not talking about any of the underlying things, but at least the transcript. I think there is a great public interest in this and in the interest of transparency, that would be something that we would like to see done. So I will submit my proposal for the NFL to consider as to whether that’s possible or not.”
Gregg Levy, an attorney who represented the NFL and oversaw the proceedings (because Goodell is not a lawyer and needed assistance), upheld the integrity of the NFL by flatly rejecting this proposal in an effort to keep the public at large from seeing how they operate.
After attorney Daniel Nash, also representing the NFL, told Kessler that the agreement stated the transcripts would remain confidential, Levy abruptly put an end to the conversation and initiated a break to the proceedings.
Excerpt from pages 344/345 of the Tom Brady appeal hearing transcript.
Excerpt from pages 344/345 of the Tom Brady appeal hearing transcript.
Five minutes — you and your proposal can go take a hike.
The NFL and Goodell knew that if these transcripts went public, the world would see just how shoddy a job they do in these hearings, how despite everybody going through the motions, the outcome was determined long before anybody arrived in the room.
Tom Brady will win in court. And thanks to Judge Berman’s order to unseal the transcripts of the hearing, Brady and the NFLPA also scored an additional victory in delivering another devastating blow to any credibility Goodell claimed to have.
:thumb:
Merlot
Hurley: Sure Seems Like Brady Is Going To Beat Goodell In Court
By Michael Hurley, CBS Boston
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/08/...like-brady-is-going-to-beat-goodell-in-court/
We’ve read the transcripts. We’ve (strangely) read Tom Brady’s private emails. And now that we have our wits about us and have had ample to think about it, we can say this: Tom Brady is going to win in court.
There was some doubt before. Very rarely does a judge rule to overturn the decision of an arbitrator, we were told. But has Judge Richard Berman done one thing to hint he’s leaning toward favoring the NFL? And has so convoluted and embarrassing a case ever come before him?
No, and no. If anything, the judge has acted in ways that have helped the union thus far, with no decision being bigger than the one to make public the transcripts of Brady’s appeal hearing.
We now know the full arsenal of each side.
Brady has dozens upon dozens of on-the-record, under-oath denials of any awareness of or participation in any activity that violates any rule.
The NFL has only its same flawed case, one that can be ripped to shreds by even armchair attorneys whose entire legal experience amounts to owning a keyboard and watching Law & Order once (hello).
The NFL has no big play, no ace in the hole. In fact, the league came away from the public release of the transcripts looking worse. We know that Tom Brady was punished based on a document which does not apply to players and is never distributed to players. We know the league has to perform mental gymnastics in order to differentiate the Vikings/sideline heaters situation with the alleged acts in New England. We know that the NFL rooted its decision entirely on the Wells report, which rooted its basis in science performed by Exponent, and we know that Exponent’s methodology was simply wrong.
All Roger Goodell has is the hope that his lawyers can interpret the CBA in such a way that convinces Judge Berman that the entire process took place on the up and up.
But anyone who reads the transcripts from that “appeal hearing” knows that it was an affront to modern human society. Page 278 of the document noted that upon seeing how the proceedings were taking place, a kangaroo hopped out of his seat and bolted from the meeting room, disgusted by the farce that was taking place in front of his little kangaroo eyes.
It was a sham of the highest order, with NFL lawyers arguing to and for the NFL, with Goodell checking in from time to time to show he lacked knowledge of basic facts. Every single point made by Jeffrey Kessler on behalf of Brady and the NFLPA was summarily dismissed by Goodell as irrelevant, false, or a lie.
Not one person who reads that transcript could come away thinking Goodell ruled fairly and impartially. Even Goodell himself would come to that conclusion — that is, if he had the attention span to read the whole thing. That’s a shaky proposition, considering his comments during the proceedings demonstrated that he struggled to keep up throughout the hearing.
So no, Brady will not agree to settle and take a one-game suspension, as some of us had suggested as being a reasonable compromise as recently as Tuesday afternoon. Nope. Brady won’t be suspended at all.
The NFL spent an incredible amount of time and effort over the past six and a half months toward winning the public relations battle. On that account, they won. Huzzah.
But Kessler and the NFLPA has focused its energy on winning the case. At 5:53 on June 23, Kessler realized he had won.
It was at that exact moment that Kessler, after sitting in a room with the NFL’s brain trust for eight hours, knew exactly who and what he was dealing with.
“I would like to propose on behalf of the Union that we can release this transcript of this today,” Kessler told the room. “I would like the NFL to think about that. That’s our proposal. Despite that, I’m not talking about any of the underlying things, but at least the transcript. I think there is a great public interest in this and in the interest of transparency, that would be something that we would like to see done. So I will submit my proposal for the NFL to consider as to whether that’s possible or not.”
Gregg Levy, an attorney who represented the NFL and oversaw the proceedings (because Goodell is not a lawyer and needed assistance), upheld the integrity of the NFL by flatly rejecting this proposal in an effort to keep the public at large from seeing how they operate.
After attorney Daniel Nash, also representing the NFL, told Kessler that the agreement stated the transcripts would remain confidential, Levy abruptly put an end to the conversation and initiated a break to the proceedings.
Excerpt from pages 344/345 of the Tom Brady appeal hearing transcript.
Excerpt from pages 344/345 of the Tom Brady appeal hearing transcript.
Five minutes — you and your proposal can go take a hike.
The NFL and Goodell knew that if these transcripts went public, the world would see just how shoddy a job they do in these hearings, how despite everybody going through the motions, the outcome was determined long before anybody arrived in the room.
Tom Brady will win in court. And thanks to Judge Berman’s order to unseal the transcripts of the hearing, Brady and the NFLPA also scored an additional victory in delivering another devastating blow to any credibility Goodell claimed to have.
:thumb:
Merlot
Tom Brady will not win in court and even if he did it would not happen until after his suspension is over, see you on October 11 Tom Shady.:nod:
It's said that during Miami's Intersquad scrimmage coming up that Terrell Sims, the DL coach, is going to principally using his 3rd string defensive line in order to go easy on Tannehill's Offense. The reason quoted is that they're so deep at DL that the only competition is at 3rd string. Can you imagine being that coach handling what can only be described as a "Monster" defensive line. The other thing it tells me is that the OL is still quite weak. Hope Tannehill is not going to spend his weekends on his back this Fall.
The Fins have pretty much the same issue in the Secondary. They've built it so deep that they're expected to overpower the Offense. They're still playing musical chairs at strong & weak side LBs though.
The Fins have pretty much the same issue in the Secondary. They've built it so deep that they're expected to overpower the Offense. They're still playing musical chairs at strong & weak side LBs though.
Honest fans,
https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/emails-between-tom-brady-and-ex-expose-how-they-126106801202.html
A recently released email between Tom Brady and Bridget Moynahan shows that the two are skilled at co-parenting their son Jack. (Photo: Getty Images)
New England Patriot Tom Brady is at the center of controversy these days, especially since a number of his personal emails were unsealed this week as a part of the “deflate-gate” scandal. But one issue that’s not up for dispute: The dad of three’s solid skills when it comes to co-parenting his oldest son.
Brady, who has two children with wife and supermodel Gisele Bundchen, also has a 7-year-old son, Jack, with ex-girlfriend and Blue Bloods actress Bridget Moynahan. And, as evidenced by one of the leaked emails, an October exchange between the former couple about Jack’s reading skills, the two are clearly winning at co-parenting.
This is why you never turn over your phone. While it's complimentary it's still a gross invasion of privacy that has nothing to do with this issue, and you can be sure the haters won't be screaming that Brady is a great father.
Jets' Antonio Cromartie: Goodell 'gonna make his own rules as he goes'
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...-make-his-own-rules-as-he-goes-172645009.html
The Patriots-Jets rivalry is one of the NFL's most bitter. These teams hate each other and Antonio Cromartie has been one of the most vocal Patriots blasters on the Jets. Yet even he gets the real problem. Goodell is protecting Goodell not looking for fairness or the truth.
Even a New York Jet can sympathize with Tom Brady.
New York Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie came on ESPN on Thursday and said Brady should not be suspended for deflate-gate. A $25,000 fine would be sufficient according to Cromartie, via New York Newsday. That's not the most popular opinion. A lot of players — I'm sure they've all read the Wells report and Brady's testimony — have basically said Brady got what he deserved, if they've discussed it at all. Fellow Jet Darrelle Revis, a Patriot last year, went down that road.
Cromartie's specific take on Brady's punishment wasn't that important. His words on NFL commissioner Roger Goodell were, however.
"Nobody is safe," Cromartie said on ESPN, via Newsday. "No matter who you are, Roger will do what he wants to do. ... It don't matter what the rules say, he's gonna make his own rules as he goes."
That's a key point that many players who have criticized Brady don't get. If the NFL is willing to sell out their most popular player for some good PR or pandering to owners upset the Patriots keep beating them or whatever reason the NFL had to turn this into a fiasco, what chance do they have?
Players should be upset that Brady's legacy and reputation were damaged based on the whims of a commissioner whose "every single action, conclusion or determination was designed to find a path to that original belief of guilt," in the words of Yahoo's Dan Wetzel (who pointed out Goodell's missteps very well here.) Players should be nervous about the harsh actions of the NFL office on an issue (deflated footballs) that never mattered to the league before, with still no bit of evidence to tell us what Brady's role was in deflate-gate, if there was any.
The collective-bargaining agreement doesn't expire for a long time, and the union has rarely been able to stand firm and fight, in equal parts over not wanting to miss paychecks and public pressure that always falls back to the ridiculous assertion that players are just being greedy. But players should look at how Goodell treated Brady and others based on his absolute power in the CBA that the union didn't fight hard enough to take away. They need to understand that's just going to continue until they dig in.
One of the biggest constantly trash-spewing Jets said this.
Cheers,
Merlot
https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/emails-between-tom-brady-and-ex-expose-how-they-126106801202.html
A recently released email between Tom Brady and Bridget Moynahan shows that the two are skilled at co-parenting their son Jack. (Photo: Getty Images)
New England Patriot Tom Brady is at the center of controversy these days, especially since a number of his personal emails were unsealed this week as a part of the “deflate-gate” scandal. But one issue that’s not up for dispute: The dad of three’s solid skills when it comes to co-parenting his oldest son.
Brady, who has two children with wife and supermodel Gisele Bundchen, also has a 7-year-old son, Jack, with ex-girlfriend and Blue Bloods actress Bridget Moynahan. And, as evidenced by one of the leaked emails, an October exchange between the former couple about Jack’s reading skills, the two are clearly winning at co-parenting.
This is why you never turn over your phone. While it's complimentary it's still a gross invasion of privacy that has nothing to do with this issue, and you can be sure the haters won't be screaming that Brady is a great father.
Jets' Antonio Cromartie: Goodell 'gonna make his own rules as he goes'
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...-make-his-own-rules-as-he-goes-172645009.html
The Patriots-Jets rivalry is one of the NFL's most bitter. These teams hate each other and Antonio Cromartie has been one of the most vocal Patriots blasters on the Jets. Yet even he gets the real problem. Goodell is protecting Goodell not looking for fairness or the truth.
Even a New York Jet can sympathize with Tom Brady.
New York Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie came on ESPN on Thursday and said Brady should not be suspended for deflate-gate. A $25,000 fine would be sufficient according to Cromartie, via New York Newsday. That's not the most popular opinion. A lot of players — I'm sure they've all read the Wells report and Brady's testimony — have basically said Brady got what he deserved, if they've discussed it at all. Fellow Jet Darrelle Revis, a Patriot last year, went down that road.
Cromartie's specific take on Brady's punishment wasn't that important. His words on NFL commissioner Roger Goodell were, however.
"Nobody is safe," Cromartie said on ESPN, via Newsday. "No matter who you are, Roger will do what he wants to do. ... It don't matter what the rules say, he's gonna make his own rules as he goes."
That's a key point that many players who have criticized Brady don't get. If the NFL is willing to sell out their most popular player for some good PR or pandering to owners upset the Patriots keep beating them or whatever reason the NFL had to turn this into a fiasco, what chance do they have?
Players should be upset that Brady's legacy and reputation were damaged based on the whims of a commissioner whose "every single action, conclusion or determination was designed to find a path to that original belief of guilt," in the words of Yahoo's Dan Wetzel (who pointed out Goodell's missteps very well here.) Players should be nervous about the harsh actions of the NFL office on an issue (deflated footballs) that never mattered to the league before, with still no bit of evidence to tell us what Brady's role was in deflate-gate, if there was any.
The collective-bargaining agreement doesn't expire for a long time, and the union has rarely been able to stand firm and fight, in equal parts over not wanting to miss paychecks and public pressure that always falls back to the ridiculous assertion that players are just being greedy. But players should look at how Goodell treated Brady and others based on his absolute power in the CBA that the union didn't fight hard enough to take away. They need to understand that's just going to continue until they dig in.
One of the biggest constantly trash-spewing Jets said this.
Cheers,
Merlot
Geno Smith out for 6-10 weeks due to fractured jaw suffered from sucker punch by teammate in non-football arguement
NY Jets QB Geno Smith out with fractured jaw
NY Jets QB Geno Smith out with fractured jaw
New England = Boston Red Sox, Garoppolo= 0 TD, 1 INT.:lol:
This team is absolutely terrible, can we just say:yield:
This team is absolutely terrible, can we just say:yield:
:lol: And, that's the end. Justice. All you haters can stick it where the sun don't shine. :thumb:
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http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...-england-patriots-wins-appeal-nfl-deflategate
Tom Brady wins Deflategate appeal against NFL, judge rules
NEW YORK -- A federal judge erased New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's four-game suspension Thursday for a Deflategate controversy that the NFL claimed threatened football's integrity.
U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell went too far in affirming punishment of the Super Bowl-winning quarterback, criticizing him for dispensing "his own brand of industrial justice." Brady has insisted he played no role in a conspiracy to deflate footballs below the allowable limit at last season's AFC Championship Game.
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http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...-england-patriots-wins-appeal-nfl-deflategate
Tom Brady wins Deflategate appeal against NFL, judge rules
NEW YORK -- A federal judge erased New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's four-game suspension Thursday for a Deflategate controversy that the NFL claimed threatened football's integrity.
U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell went too far in affirming punishment of the Super Bowl-winning quarterback, criticizing him for dispensing "his own brand of industrial justice." Brady has insisted he played no role in a conspiracy to deflate footballs below the allowable limit at last season's AFC Championship Game.
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Sad day for honest football fans and for honest people in general, I guess lying and destroying evidence and being uncooperative during an investigation is grounds for a reinstatement according to judge Berman, let's hope that this stupid decision gets overturned in an appeal and that dishonest rotten cheater serves his suspension during the year, sad.
Dishonesty at it's best-
http://deadspin.com/the-full-story-of-tom-bradys-destroyed-cell-phone-1722190784
Dishonesty at it's best-
http://deadspin.com/the-full-story-of-tom-bradys-destroyed-cell-phone-1722190784
I suppose that this includes "honest" people who brag on this forum about not paying their gambling debts, Stiffer.t. Thank you for the laugh at your inflated irony.
The NFL investigators admit to not being sure if the footballs were even deflated or lost air pressure due to the cold temperature and if Brady knew about it. Even if he knew about it, there is nothing in the NFL contract which states that a player can be suspended for knowing that someone else cheated.
Of course, despite having admitted to hating Brady and the Patriots long before the 2014 season and not having spent weeks interviewing everybody concerned and looking over thousands of pages of evidence, your opinion is somehow objective and more informed than the judge. Do you also have an opinion about the value of the cosmological constant?
Lots of other players have admitted to over or under inflating footballs. Some teams have been known to open or close doors on one side of the stadium or open the roof only some of the time to attempt to alter the wind to their advantage + all sorts of other tricks to secure an edge. I hate no professional athletes nor teams as I don't claim to know any well. I, like many, am satisfied that the pressure of some of the footballs was not a determining factor in the Colts game.
I don't understand why you feel obliged to show that you are a sore loser.
The footballs were deflated(illegally) by Patriot employees on instructions from Brady to suit his gripping of the balls , end of story, of course you would never believe it unless he video taped it himself and showed it to the world.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/tom-brady-cheater-new-england-patriots-wells-report-deflategate
BTW- One week until the start of the NFL season, anxiously awaiting your legendary picks.:lol:
:lol: anon_vlad speaks truth. Another poster on a sports thread that makes sense! Oh my!
New Yorkers hating Brady's guts... OK, fine, I get it. Especially Jets fans. But everyone else?? You have no dog in this fight. Lol, especially Canadians!! Get over it!
New Yorkers hating Brady's guts... OK, fine, I get it. Especially Jets fans.
But everyone else?? You have no dog in this fight. Lol, especially Canadians!! Get over it!My money making winning picks for week 1.
Oakland + 3 over Cinncinatti.
Buffalo + 3 over Indianapolis.
Jets - 1 over Cleveland.
Philadelphia -1 over Atlanta.
My sure shot pick of the week is Pittsburgh +6.5 over the worst team in the AFC East New England who will finish in dead last place(39 year old QB with a 36 year old washed up Reggie Wayne as their main WR minus the best DB in Football Darelle Revis and a depleted secondary, first to last just like the Red Sux, you just watch!!!.
Point spread will be adjusted as we get closer to game day.
He sure does, did you see his picks last year.:lol:
Oakland + 3 over Cinncinatti.
Buffalo + 3 over Indianapolis.
Jets - 1 over Cleveland.
Philadelphia -1 over Atlanta.
My sure shot pick of the week is Pittsburgh +6.5 over the worst team in the AFC East New England who will finish in dead last place(39 year old QB with a 36 year old washed up Reggie Wayne as their main WR minus the best DB in Football Darelle Revis and a depleted secondary, first to last just like the Red Sux, you just watch!!!.
Point spread will be adjusted as we get closer to game day.
He sure does, did you see his picks last year.:lol:
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