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How SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP it is :thumb:

So the mighty rouge hosers were such a great team that they played exactly three more games than Thee NYY this season, Guess that says the Yanks were pretty damned good then?

GO JAYS GO!


The Red Sox have been swept.............!!!!!!!!!!! Their pitching was a bit flawed but I did not see a devastating sweep and what, 7 runs in 3 games..????......................
 

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The Red Sox season was impressive offensively. Pitching was always very shaky. It has been clear the whole season it wasn't their turn to make a big challenge. However, despite Porcello giving up some bombs they were always in the games to the end. The real surprise is the dynamite offense came up short when it counted most.

GO CUBS!
 

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The Red Sox had an absolutely great September, but an absolutely awful October. They faltered badly at the end of the season, losing their final two games against the Jays and then being swept in three by Cleveland. Maybe clinching the division a couple of days prior to the Jays series didn't help. But they did try to win that series (vs Jays) and went with their best lineup and pitching matchup, so that ain't an excuse. But maybe clinching too early got them off their game a bit...maybe they lost their edge.

Although the Red Sox had a remarkable season, being knocked out of the playoffs so quickly has to hurt. I'm certain there's a lot of second-guessing going on right now. Were they right in giving all that money to David Price? Should they have coaxed David Ortiz to wait until the end of the season before he announced he'd retire after this season? Maybe delaying the announcement would have given him time to reflect on his future and possibly stay for another season. Should they have picked up more veterans? Other than Ortiz and Pedroia, this is a relatively young and inexperienced team. Should they have picked up an elite closer prior to the deadline? Who knows.

My guess is that John Farrell will be gone soon. Hitting isn't the problem, but pitching is. Will they finally part with Clay Bucholz? Will they make a run at a high-quality starter? Will they go after Aroldis Chapman? Will they make a run at signing Edwin Encarnacion to replace Ortiz? Time will tell.

As for the Yankees, the starting staff is aging and they're not 100% healthy. Gardiner and Ellsbury are no spring chickens either. My advice would be to bolster the outfield with more power. As of now, i'd say it's probably one of the weakest-hitting outfields in baseball. They also need to replace the now-retired Mark Texeira. Would they consider signing Edwin Encarnacion? Or will they stick with the kids? I'd also do something about third base and maybe use Didi Gregorius as trade-bait since they're strong at the shortstop position for the future. Should they try to trade Brian McCann? If so, who would be crazy enough to acquire him and pay him the salary the Yankees provided for him? Many questions.

The Jays will play Cleveland on Friday. It'll be a tough series for both teams. The attack is similar. Maybe the Jays have a bit more power. I give the Jays the edge in pitching, but Cleveland plays very well as a team, they're well managed and have been playing good baseball throughout the season. They also have Andrew Miller, one of the best relievers in baseball. I still can't understand the Yankees for trading him away when he still had a couple of years left to go on his contract. He's a gem!

I won't make a prediction. My heart is with the Jays, but i fear the Indians. It'll be a very entertaining series, and i hope the Jays will prevail and meet the Cubs in the World Series.
 

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They faltered badly at the end of the season, losing their final two games against the Jays and then being swept in three by Cleveland.

It hurts. No one is happy about losing an opportunity. But if we were going to get SWEPT, I don't mind so much it was engineered by Francona.

BTW: I heard Dave Dombrowski on WEEI. The big news is he said John Farrell is back as manager of the Red Sox next year. Few people believed that would happen, especially after a sweep given what people believed about Dombrowski's views and how many fans felt Farrell had made many poor decisions. WEEI commentators to a man thought Farrell was gone. So it's a BIG surprise.

But when I listened to Dombrowski answer questions it was almost surreal how calm, rational, well thought out, confident, and yet lacking any hint of conceit or arrogance. I've never heard anyone speak in such a way.

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Watching the Nats-Dodgers game I was very impressed with the at bat that Bryce Harper put on Clayton Kershaw which I think was the key at bat in the 3 run rally the Nats had. 2-20 career againt Kershaw, Harper fought off some very tough pitches, and laid off some other tough pitches, finally drawing a very hard earned walk to load the bases and eventually score the tying run. Those kinds of at bats win postseason games. I remember a walk by Wade Boggs similarly led to a game winning rally in the 1996 World Series. But Harper is only 23 years old and it's impressive to see such a professional at bat from a young player.
 

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BTW: I heard Dave Dombrowski on WEEI. The big news is he said John Farrell is back as manager of the Red Sox next year. Few people believed that would happen, especially after a sweep given what people believed about Dombrowski's views and how many fans felt Farrell had made many poor decisions. WEEI commentators to a man thought Farrell was gone. So it's a BIG surprise.

But when I listened to Dombrowski answer questions it was almost surreal how calm, rational, well thought out, confident, and yet lacking any hint of conceit or arrogance. I've never heard anyone speak in such a way.

Well, good for Farrell. The Red Sox had a heck of a season and it's not his fault that he didn't have better pitching on his staff. I applaud the former Expos GM for recognizing this and bringing back the former Jays skipper.
 

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Along with Showalter and Girardi, Francona is one of the 3 best managers in the AL.

I agree with Showalter and Francona, but Girardi??? What the hell has he done to deserve that honor? His teams always seem to miss the playoffs. He's certainly no Joe Torre!!!!

My picks for best 5 managers in the AL, in no particular order:

-Mike Scioscia
-Buck Showalter
-Terry Francona
-John Gibbons
-Ned Yost
 

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You sure are one of a kind MISTER Holliday :)


Girardi is a fantastic manager, bar none. Gibbons? really? The way you used to tell me how awful he was and would drive you to drink with his managing lol... you do change your mind a lot tho, maybe you will about Killery one day ;)

I agree with Showalter and Francona, but Girardi??? What the hell has he done to deserve that honor? His teams always seem to miss the playoffs. He's certainly no Joe Torre!!!!

My picks for best 5 managers in the AL, in no particular order:

-Mike Scioscia
-Buck Showalter
-Terry Francona
-John Gibbons
-Ned Yost
 

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You sure are one of a kind MISTER Holliday :)


Girardi is a fantastic manager, bar none. Gibbons? really? The way you used to tell me how awful he was and would drive you to drink with his managing lol... you do change your mind a lot tho, maybe you will about Killery one day ;)

You must have me mixed up with someone else. I've always liked John Gibbons and always believed he was perfect for this team. I'm his biggest defender. At least he's brought his team to the playoffs two years in a row. Joe Girardi? Meh!! Not impressed!

p.s. It's possible you are referring to my thoughts about John Farrell when he used to manage the Jays.
 

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Francona is unbelievable. Is that 5 in a row against two different teams, and this time I heard he had to use a replacement after losing two of his better starters. And both teams he's beaten have prolific hitters being totally stymied.

Could it be a Cubs vs Indians Series? That would be spectacular with two of my best pet favorites, almost a No-Lose situation.
 

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Francona is unbelievable. Is that 5 in a row against two different teams, and this time I heard he had to use a replacement after losing two of his better starters. And both teams he's beaten have prolific hitters being totally stymied.

Could it be a Cubs vs Indians Series? That would be spectacular with two of my best pet favorites, almost a No-Lose situation.

Relax. It's only been two games. The Jays only lost by a single run in both games and they were played in Cleveland. Now it's on to Toronto. Still lots of baseball left.
 

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Relax. It's only been two games.

It surprises me Cleveland has faced two powerful hitting teams and not been beaten in the playoffs yet despite some important injuries. Now Toronto must pull off the same astonishing feat the Red Sox did in 2004. No offense but I'd love two pet favorites to be in the Series. I love when tough luck teams get a real chance to get the ultimate prize.

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Andrew Miller is simply unhittable! Why the hell did the Yankees give him away?? He's absolutely phenomenal & a major reason why Cleveland is leading 3-0 in this series! I don't remember the last time a pitcher was so dominant!
 

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I'm always happy to see fans of teams who have had so little get another chance to win a championship. I'll favor the Cubs if they get there but congratulations to Cleveland and it's fans.
 

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Do you guys realize that if the Cubs win game 6 (or 7) and advance to the World Series it will pit the two teams with the longest World Series title droughts against each other? Cleveland since 1948 and Chicago since 1908. Which would mean one drought ends, one extends.
 

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Could it be a Cubs vs Indians Series? That would be spectacular with two of my best pet favorites, almost a No-Lose situation.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

Cubs win! Both of my favorite pet teams are in the Series. As I said this will be the No-Lose Series. Whoever wins will be breaking their long Series championship droughts. Whoever wins it will be FANTASTIC for baseball.

THAT CHAMPIONSHIP TOUCH:

Significantly, it's also probably the first time both World Series teams have had very deep winning connections to the Boston Red Sox organization. Both President of Operations Theo Epstein who has built the Cubs since signing with them in 2011, and Terry Francona manager of the Indians, had already combined to lead the Red Sox to TWO World Series Championships in 2004 and 2007. Now one of them will lead or have built their new teams into a World Series WINNER ending another extended championship drought as they had already done for Boston.

Many Cheers



 

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BOYZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

Is baseball still being played?

Good luck to the Cubbies, they deserve it and if they do not win it can you imagine the streets of Chi-town? The crime rate is already out of control in the presidents home town. That speaks volumes doesn't it?

Hopefully a 4 game sweep.
 

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Wow! I always remembered how long it's been since the cubs had won a World Series, but I had forgotten how long it's been since they had been to one. DAMN. 71 years. That's 1945. Crazy!

http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/10/who_will_win_the_world_series.html

One assessment of the Series:

Chicago has the talent, momentum and youth. Can it finally snap a 108-year-old losing streak? Here are 5 reasons why the Cubs can beat the Indians:


  1. The Cubs just clobbered Clayton Kershaw
  2. Chicago has a better rotation
  3. Chicago's bench is deeper and more versatile
  4. The Cubs' defense is out of this world
  5. Chicago juts got its mojo back
Never count out the underdog. Cleveland is thirsty for a championship and since LeBron just snapped the drought for the city's NBA fans, maybe the Tribe can too. Here are 5 reasons why the Indians can beat the Cubs:

  1. As an underdog, all the pressure is on Chicago — not Cleveland
  2. The Cubs have only one left-handed pitcher in their rotation
  3. And Chicago has arguably the best left-handed pitcher in the playoffs
  4. The Indians rank first in stolen bases
  5. Cleveland's rotation has been on fire

I prefer the Cubs. That's a hope not an assessment. But I'll be very happy for either of my pet favorites, especially since both teams have important Red Sox connections. On the Indians - Andrew Miller, Mike Napoli, Coco Crisp, Manager Terry Francona. For the Cubs - Jon Lester, John Lackey, President of Operations Theo Epstein.

Cheers
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Andrew Miller is simply unhittable!

yup, and Cubbies have seen nothing like him in the playoffs. San Fran had zero arms to bring in and the games got ugly for them when the starters went out. Game 4 was epic, it took 4 guys to get the first out in the 9th with Bochy sitting on a 3 run lead, sad.

Not much better for LA. That meatball by Blanton could have been the worst 2 out 0-2 pitch in NLCS history, and in a frickin tie game in the 8th. Whole different series if LA got out of that and extended the game with Chapman already in there in the 8th. anything could have happened. One damn pitch.

[video=youtube;s1jwY8XFieI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1jwY8XFieI[/video]

Some might say Cubbies are team of destiny doing what it takes, but looks to me like they've been kind of struggling and then getting let off the hook due to circumstance unlikely in WS, and it's not like their own pen has been too impressive outside of Chapman and even he gave up that big hit to A-Gon in that same 8th inning to blow the lead.

In the ALCS, the Jays looked like a freight train to me coming in off 6 straight wins doing most everything right and were stopped cold, as were the talented Sox. I can say conservatively that Jays & Sox are at least as good as Giants/Dodgers, & prob better... so the only rational explanation for the Cubbies being healthy favorites in the series is that people don't want to be on the wrong side of history? Or their big name all stars? Don't know, don't care. More often than not it usually seems to come down to depth of staff, or lack of. Great series to watch but the silly Vegas odds have forced my hand to take a side. Tribe in 5 or 6.
 
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