2016 Official Major League Baseball Thread
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Smuler - I love the DH. However, I agree with your statement completely. For me this is the number one reason against the DH. If that knucklehead had to bat how many guys would he have thrown at?
On second thought, I don't think it would matter to Ventura. He's such a hothead. I believe last year, in a moment of self reflection, he even admitted so much that he has a screw loose.
The players union loves the DH because it extends the careers of guys who are very good hitters who just cannot see grass. David Ortiz would be the classic example of this. He couldn't play in the NL except as a pinch hitter but he is such a good hitter his bat needs to be in there every day. There are other guys like this. If you lose the DH they become an extinct species.
My other reason for supporting the DH is that the vast majority of pitchers are automatic outs and their at bats are often comical. I prefer watching a competitive at bat and not easy 3 and 4 pitch strikeouts.
My other reason for supporting the DH is that the vast majority of pitchers are automatic outs and their at bats are often comical. I prefer watching a competitive at bat and not easy 3 and 4 pitch strikeouts.
Oh God, EB, I hate it when the automatic-out making pitcher enters the batters box. He has a coat on with only a sleeve on his throwing arm and the other dangling. He sac bunts with two outs and no one on base. They intentionally walk three batters to get to him. What a complete bore. Yawn
I'm all for the DH rule also. Let's face it, every position player in MLB got there because they could hit. If they absolutely can't hit, they're back in the minors.
Pitchers made it not because of their bat, but because of their ability to pitch. Many of them couldn't even hit in the Little Leagues, and now they are expected to hit? Nuts!!!!!
As for Ventura, even his own teammates are getting fed up with his act and his own manager even admitted to this last night. If i'm the GM, the time to trade him is now. He's become an uncontrollable distraction around the team. While i'm not crazy about Machado either (although he's a heck of a player!), i was glad to see him land one good punch to skinny Ventura's jaw last night.
Pitchers made it not because of their bat, but because of their ability to pitch. Many of them couldn't even hit in the Little Leagues, and now they are expected to hit? Nuts!!!!!
As for Ventura, even his own teammates are getting fed up with his act and his own manager even admitted to this last night. If i'm the GM, the time to trade him is now. He's become an uncontrollable distraction around the team. While i'm not crazy about Machado either (although he's a heck of a player!), i was glad to see him land one good punch to skinny Ventura's jaw last night.
It's not true if it was meant DHs generally don't have the skill to play in the field. That may be true for many but not some. By the same token some players may be great fielders but hit poorly. The DH position offers the chance to strengthen the team overall instead of having to chose between a better fielder or better hitter.
DHs should also have an equal chance to go to the Hall of Fame. So they aren't there in the field. Starting pitchers miss at least 120 games a year. Both are legit specialties.
DHs should also have an equal chance to go to the Hall of Fame. So they aren't there in the field. Starting pitchers miss at least 120 games a year. Both are legit specialties.
The vast majority of regular AL DHs - the David Ortizes, Alex Rodriguezes and Kendrys Moraleses- are of no value to their teams as fielders at any position and of great value to their teams as hitters. Some can be spotted in the field here and there, but are the kinds of players you hope don't have to field that much. You also don't want them getting hurt, as many are aging players who can tear tendons and cartilage if they have to make sudden lateral movements.
A few years ago Marcus Thames was a right handed DH for the Yankees who was raking lefty pitching but he was an absolutely dreadful outfielder. I recall a game where the Yankees tried to sneak him into RF and get another righty bat in at DH, which was another aging player deemed even less grass worthy than Thames was.
Early in the game a fly ball was hit to Thames and he circled it in a comical fashion before letting the ball drop without getting a glove on it. As I recall it led to a run or runs. Thames was never allowed to see grass after that play and was a strict DH and his career with the Yankees ended shortly thereafter. He is now a co-hitting coach for the team. But at that time he could rake lefties, and you need bats like that on your team. So the Yankees ended up using him in a DH platoon and I forget who the lefty DH was.
I like the DH on balance for all the above noted reasons but it is a problem that pitchers are not accountable to other AL teams. However retaliation can still be had against the catcher or designated retaliatee.
A few years ago Marcus Thames was a right handed DH for the Yankees who was raking lefty pitching but he was an absolutely dreadful outfielder. I recall a game where the Yankees tried to sneak him into RF and get another righty bat in at DH, which was another aging player deemed even less grass worthy than Thames was.
Early in the game a fly ball was hit to Thames and he circled it in a comical fashion before letting the ball drop without getting a glove on it. As I recall it led to a run or runs. Thames was never allowed to see grass after that play and was a strict DH and his career with the Yankees ended shortly thereafter. He is now a co-hitting coach for the team. But at that time he could rake lefties, and you need bats like that on your team. So the Yankees ended up using him in a DH platoon and I forget who the lefty DH was.
I like the DH on balance for all the above noted reasons but it is a problem that pitchers are not accountable to other AL teams. However retaliation can still be had against the catcher or designated retaliatee.
Let me give you an example. Pascual Perez liked to throw at people..Dick Williams made it a point that every time he stepped up to the plate after hitting another Padre batter that day, that he would be hit. He was thrown at EVERY TIME he stepped into the box
How did Pascual react- once, by holding the bat in his hand like a weapon when he thought Terry Kennedy was going to knock his head off
And the other time, while his teammates " fought for him "- he tried to run into the dugout/clubhouse so his ass wasnt kicked
Here is a written explanation of the day, along with a video
After this day- Pascual stopped throwing at people
http://www.talkingchop.com/2014/10/...ursday-braves-padres-brawl-1984-classic-fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZgw-ujI8UI
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Smuler
This sounds like a ringing endorsement for a certain cheater from chowduh town to get into the Great Hall. Hopefully he either 1. Fails a drug test this season or 2. Some insider writes a book soon, so he does not tarnish Cooperstown.
Has anyone else besides moi noticed Dave Ortiz's stats this season? At 40 years old???
Here is a stat that rumples would love but is very troubling to see for someone that is 40 years old and not (supposedly, wink wink) on roids, Poopies OPS is right now at a career high of 1.150, far higher than he has ever had before, at 40!!!.....yea, he is clean
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Has anyone else besides moi noticed Dave Ortiz's stats this season? At 40 years old???
Here is a stat that rumples would love but is very troubling to see for someone that is 40 years old and not (supposedly, wink wink) on roids, Poopies OPS is right now at a career high of 1.150, far higher than he has ever had before, at 40!!!.....yea, he is clean
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Among MLB starting pitchers, only Noah Syndegaard has a faster average fastball than Nathan Eovaldi's 96.8 mph. The two fastest starting pitcher's fastballs in baseball are on display in NYC. If you consider Aroldis Chapman having the fastest fastball among relievers by a lot, the 3 fastest fastballs in baseball are all in NYC.
They were saying on YES that Jered Weaver has over 1100 pitches this year less than 85 mph, the most of any major league pitcher outside of knuckleballers Dickey and Wright. I would have been embarrassed if the Yankees had not raked his weak ass shit to at least the tune of his 5.30 ERA, and they came through. I think the Angels are bringing up some weak-ass mediocre lefty from the minors to face the Yankees tomorrow (every team that has played the Yankees this year has brought up minor league, weak ass lefties to face the righty-deficient Yankees). As I told CCF the only way to stop this comical parade of mediocre minor league lefties is to beat their asses.
Right at this moment CC Sabathia's 2.28 ERA is 3rd in the American League. It's his lowest ERA after 10 starts in his career. This after 7 shutout inning taming the Tigers tonight.
His vacation to the drunk tank seems to have been quite beneficial. I'm happy for him and hope other alcoholics who need help will follow suit.
Actually CC started pitching better at the end of last season with his alcohol issues and it's because he was fitted with a special knee brace. The Yankees pitching coaches noticed he was not landing properly after his delivery and since he has had the brace the last month of last season and the first 10 starts of this season, he has been like the old CC. He also showed up in spring training in what was (for him) good shape. He will never be a thin man but the key is not carrying around vast amounts of excessive weight. Many guys can be successful with extra weight as long as they don't balloon like Pablo Sandoval. Sandoval has a compulsive eating disorder according to his trainer with the Giants and needs help.
Gee Whiz Iggy. I do not want to be confused with a Yankee hater but the offense is loaded with no-names.
I do realize that they probably have the top pen in baseball and you better beat them in the first 6 innings. And the starters are pretty good but they need some bats.
Jays beat the O's in a sluggfest!!! Twins beat the Red Sox in extra innings! Tigers beat the Yankees and that bum Pineda!!!
It's a great day for baseball!!! :rockon:
It's a great day for baseball!!! :rockon:
a 2 hitter and a shut out. The kid is for real. This is quite a story. The announcers were comparing him to Verlander at this age and with this experience. Verlander was no where near as polished as Fulmer.
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