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Abuse denunciation: Le Rubicon and Carte Blanche Agency in Montreal

Fradi

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Or perhaps you wish to donate to the cause ! Wouldn't that be something !

Me and probably many others.
Yes it is something.
Fortunately I have had nothing but love and kindness from the women in my life and yes even from the escorts that I am seeing.

Yes, you are right I am emotional about it.
 

Baba Yaga

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Good morning Eager Beaver ,

I have give this possibility some thought. But based on the nature of the case , plaintive and defendant , law schools will look past this one its a given. There is only two possibilities here. Either a client that is an attorney will take this on the side for a minimal down payment and see if he can settle for a certain amount of money. However and most likely , nothing will result out of this.
 

Stephen500

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I practice law in the US, not Canada, but its not all that different. I've done lots of pro bono work in my career (when the hours are added up) and a lot of it was underwritten by a large international corporate law firm employing me, on behalf of groups who faced inceedible stigma and hate (mentally ill convicts, deqf people, many others. The firm also paid hundreds of thousands of expenses.

I also do a lot of pro bono work in my private practice since I left the firm, to the extent I can.

Lawyers have an ethicsl responsibility to make legal services available to underserved populations.

I would not take one person's word for it that there is no pro bono represetation for you, Julia, April, et al.

Assuming that no one would want to represent you, despite the justice of your cause, is just another example of dismissing you all as a bunch of silly hookers.
 

IanMoone8

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I agree with Julia, this should be a criminal case. The only people paying lawyers bills would be the abusers, not the victims. It’s bs when cases like this are brought to civil court. They just pay the victims off & keep doing the same thing.
 

Baba Yaga

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Good morning Shephen ,

No things are not that different . Expect for the amounts rewarded when the plaintive wins. Now that's different . You are correct and thanks for the insight . No lawyers will take this one on his shoulders. Just how much in assets are these guys worth ? The girls ? We all know the answer to that . The defendant ? We can speculate on that also. In short there is no money here .
 

Stephen500

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While "outing" the perpetrators on the internet with their real names seems the most effective way to punish and deter them from repeating.

But this is a business built on discretion. If MK and his associates were outed, does that start us down a slippery slope towards outing johns for perceived misconduct as well?

And a crimimal rather than civil case would run the risk of becoming a weapon in The hands of those who would ban the industry completely.

Not sure what the right answer is.
 

Stephen500

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In short there is no money here .

That is exactly the reason wby this cause is so deserving of pro bono representation, because the ordinary forces of the market for legal services would not result in market-rate representation. That is the rationale of pro bono representation. Pro bono-- "for good".

Plus, this is a "low bono" situation. The grievants are not without resources, and they could raise more funds. Pro bono is not all-or-nothing.
 

Julia Sky

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Im just going to interrupt this conversation to say I’m still puzzled at the idea that anyone would think violence and rape and pimping falls under "civil court".

Violence. Rape. Let that sink in.
 

Stephen500

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Im just going to interrupt this conversation to say I’m still puzzled at the idea that anyone would think violence and rape and pimping falls under "civil court".

Violence. Rape. Let that sink in.

The government prosecutes and controls a criminal prosecution. The government is not always your friend, or interested in justice. You control your own civil prosecution.
 

Baba Yaga

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Im just going to interrupt this conversation to say I’m still puzzled at the idea that anyone would think violence and rape and pimping falls under "civil court".

Violence. Rape. Let that sink in.

Open a blog Julia . With names, pictures and videos . Someone among you guys must have some sort of visual evidence ? Unless these evidence do show that at one point the girls were willing
participants disregarding the risk. And based on what I can read here these risk were disregarded. And that's very very unfortunate.

One thing is for sure . Both of these agencies are virtually doomed. On that aspect your thread is serving a purpose.
Everyone here does understand your grief.
 

Julia Sky

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Dude why do you keep talking like I’m one of the victims? I’m not, never did business with them, and I’m not the one who started the thread either. I’m only here to support these girls.
 

Fradi

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^^^^^^

What no questions anyone?

Three strange statements not one word of denial.
I certainly have one question.

Do you deny the allegations, otherwise what is the reason for these three bizarre posts.
Now is the chance to voice your version of events.
I would like to think we give everyone a fair chance to voice their version.
 

April Killian / Rose

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Im sorry i havent taken the time to read everyones answers yet.
Legal measure have been started.
For those who havent visited my twitter since my first post, there is 1 victim that chose now to make her testimony public. Its in french, i am translating it and posting the translation this evening. You can see it under the same thread. This woman gave me the same adress as the rubicon and carte blanche and also gave me his real name. Which i already had and confirms this has all been done by the same person. Each testimony described the same vennue, the same individual.
We have gathered testimonies from over 30 providers. 30. This isnt 2-3 raging girls in a corner pointing a finger. This is a massive, series of abuses.
We have juridicial plan. We have a team with us.
 

Gabrielle Laliberté

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Really, against April and us ? I would like to see the owner of Carte-Blanche and Le Rubicon explain the context to the police and the court.

No excuse, no denial + short and incomprehensible post who look like menace...

Then it's your defense ?
 

Fradi

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^^^^

Exactly.
Those 4 weird posts were just an attempt to scare and confuse people.
There are many of us that are 100% behind you ladies.
There is no room for this kind of behaviour towards women in any industry.
 
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