EB we know livedit is a troll and hopefully a mod will ban him and delete his threads. With the blue done for the "group " they need to get their kicks somewhere. I am guessing there are still a couple more handles here that are waiting to troll.
livedit has already been banned. For some unknown reason, the mods often leave a banned members posts up after the banning. I'm with you that lovemaker's, er livedit's, posts should be deleted.EB we know livedit is a troll and hopefully a mod will ban him and delete his threads. With the blue done for the "group " they need to get their kicks somewhere. I am guessing there are still a couple more handles here that are waiting to troll.
Sorry but this is the USA and I pay exactly $253.89 per month on a new Honda Accord. That is a 3 year lease, I did put some money down but it was the same as the last few cars. That is $420 per month less than what I paid on the BMW lease. These are the facts. I just made my lease payment a few nights ago.
I don't doubt you that prices may be different down south, but I have a question.
Since mortgage interest is deductible in the US, why would you not just take out a HELOC and pay the car cash (instead of leasing).
(The answer just came to me....you use the car for work and your payments are already deductible?)
I am reimbursed for mileage by my employer at the rate of .565 per mile which is what the IRS allows. My employer then claims the deduction. You cannot deduct expenses for which you are reimbursed.
I get a deduction for my mortgage interest payments - I have a mortgage on my condo.
This doesn't really answer Sam's question. Why not buy the car for cash and take the allowed deduction on the interest on an HELOC?I get a deduction for my mortgage interest payments - I have a mortgage on my condo.
This doesn't really answer Sam's question. Why not buy the car for cash and take the allowed deduction on the interest on an HELOC?
Do you realize that the cash value of the lease is about $21,000 and that the HELOC interest deduction is minimal? I would pay more in interest than what I would get by way of a deduction - it would not be a dollar for dollar wash, as he is apparently assuming. I have also run all of this by my accountant and he has never suggested that I do other than what I am doing.
I also don't think it is allowed because of lease prepayment penalty provisions. And if something happens to the car such as being totalled or stolen, you would be on the hook and you would lose the value of the remaining lease, not Honda. Typically on a lease Honda retains title to the vehicle. They will not want to shoulder any loss that happens after you have paid the value of the lease. I think you would then have to pay Honda the balance in addition to eating what you have lost. So if the loss happens on day 1 you eat the $21,000, plus you pay Honda the residual value which might be another $12,000, plus you are looking for a new car. Collision insurance only will give you market value, not all of your up front payments.
Again, Beav, you haven't answered Sam's question. He isn't suggesting a single-payment on the lease. I believe he's wondering about the logic of purchasing the car outright.
Again, Beav, you haven't answered Sam's question. He isn't suggesting a single-payment on the lease. I believe he's wondering about the logic of purchasing the car outright.
Do you realize that the cash value of the lease is about $21,000 and that the HELOC interest deduction is minimal? I would pay more in interest than what I would get by way of a deduction - it would not be a dollar for dollar wash, as he is apparently assuming.
100% of the interest. At least in the USofA in which I pay taxes.How much can you deduct?
If there were no advantages to leasing nobody would ever do it.
After my 3rd vehicle purchase and always trading in my old vehicle my purchase payment was $220.00 per month for 2 years and then it was all mine. Just like buying or renting a house, what do you get after renting over 20 years........... Nothing.
They are a lot more than that but to me worth it.
tiannas said:As a single parent I have no idea how much my daughter has cost, I know it's a lot. But like STN, to me it's absolutely worth it.
Geez..... all Halloween Mike wanted to know was how to become Rich
Your post begs the question of what exactly do you have at the end of 100,000 miles.
You keep a car for 100,000 miles? That is about 8 years of driving for the average driver and if you go over 16,000 miles a year they charge by the mile and not cheap, for a 3 year lease you would be allowed 48,000 miles and if you owned it would still have warranty which would make it more valuable on trade in, if you go over in km like by 52,000 as you say 100,000 km ouch for the extra charges. So if you had 6 vehicles ( 3 purchase and 3 lease ) at 100,000 miles each that is 48 years of driving and now at the end you own nothing.
The lease is set up ( for the majority ) for people who want to live past their means ( want new flashy stuff but can not afford to purchase ).