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Are the new indy agencies really independent?

Are the new indy agencies really independent?

  • Yes, I believe these indies banded together

    Votes: 15 25.0%
  • no, this smells like some agency owner is behind them

    Votes: 19 31.7%
  • A mixture of both

    Votes: 10 16.7%
  • I have no clue and I do not care

    Votes: 16 26.7%

  • Total voters
    60

player_82

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I believe Kiki is 100% independent but I guess Kiki will still need to pound it on me that she is an indy just to be sure....:D

I wonder if she is up for the challenge. ;)


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we have said repeatedly that we are merely friends
with benefits......;)
 
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General Gonad

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My apology to Kiki

player_82 said:
I believe Kiki is 100% independent but I guess Kiki will still need to pound it on me that she is an indy just to be sure....:D

Listen, I just spoke with Kiki and YVO is right, I owe her a public apology. She was distressed and told me she is 100% independent. Now, Mods, can I change the second choice to read it smells like some owner is behind them? If not, I have to delete the whole thread. Mods, please help.

GG
 

General Gonad

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I forgot to mention that Kiki told me she would be at tomorrow's GT. Have fun!:)

GG

P.S. Mods, check your PMs.
 

YouVantOption

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General Gonad said:
Listen, I just spoke with Kiki and YVO is right, I owe her a public apology. She was distressed and told me she is 100% independent. Now, Mods, can I change the second choice to read it smells like some owner is behind them? If not, I have to delete the whole thread. Mods, please help.

GG

Thank-you GG. i was on the other line when you were speaking to her, and am very appreciative that you are doing this, as is she. She was very very upset by this. This shows character, and for that I salut you. Thaks again.

P.S. you still owe me a drink, but we'll buy a round or two as well if you show tomorrow.

YVO & KKDH
 

General Gonad

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YouVantOption said:
P.S. you still owe me a drink, but we'll buy a round or two as well if you show tomorrow.

YVO,

Sorry but I owe you nothing. I owe Kiki an apology for using her agency name in my second poll option. I hope the Mods correct this. As for the GT, I am not going to be there. The last thing I want to do is drink with Kiki - one of the sexy babes that I never got to meet!:p I can't risk a relapse. Have fun tomorrow.

GG
 

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This just in...Classxxx is now renamed itself "ClassINdyxxx". :cool: Im sure all their girls are getting their full share of the $200 rate. :rolleyes:
 

General Gonad

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breadman said:
This just in...Classxxx is now renamed itself "ClassINdyxxx". :cool: Im sure all their girls are getting their full share of the $200 rate. :rolleyes:

LMAO!!!:D:D:D I always bug Mike on the phone and ask him why he charges these ridiculous rates. "Come on man, do you know how much these ladies can get in the U.S.":rolleyes: I felt like telling him, yeah, so why are they working for you?:confused:

GG
 

Robin

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I think the difference between an agency and a guild of independents should be the same as the difference between a bank and a credit union. Even if there are paid phone operators and webmasters involved, the SP's should be collectively governing the organization, making the business decisions and sharing the profits. I'm not sure which of the "indy agencies" fit this model.
 

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General Gonad said:
Listen, I just spoke with Kiki and YVO is right, I owe her a public apology. She was distressed and told me she is 100% independent. Now, Mods, can I change the second choice to read it smells like some owner is behind them? If not, I have to delete the whole thread. Mods, please help.

GG
The 2nd poll option has been changed. Maybe next time you can avoid naming names, and this way you won't need a public apology. :rolleyes:

M7
 

General Gonad

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Mod 7 said:
The 2nd poll option has been changed. Maybe next time you can avoid naming names, and this way you won't need a public apology. :rolleyes:

Thanks Mod7, I will be more careful. I also desperately want to avoid being banned again now that I am on your good side.:rolleyes:

GG
 

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naughtylady

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roxanna said:
They ask you for a weekly fee instead of taking a pourcentage of your money each time you get in the car after a call.

Not with purrfect playmates. I do not pay any weekly fee.
Just curious, which group are you reffering to? What happens if they do not send you any business in a given week? Do you still owe them a fee?

Ronnie,
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Vulcan

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We shouldn't generalize!

I hate these kind of polls because people tend to generalize and put every one in the same mold when it would be more appropriate to comment on each case one by one.

There are probably agencies that qualify in each of the categories offerred and it is not fair to those that don't fit the patern to put them all in the same basket.

I thought that ladies were moving Indy to have better control over their working conditions: ie. schedule, selection of clients, and value of the services provided. On that last criteria, value cannot be summarized by a list of letters describing the range of services but should rather refer how it makes you feel after a session. This depends of the chemistry between two people and is what should be driving the value and hence the rate. Those that do not agree with a rate quoted can always look elsewhere.

It is probably unfair to the ladies for us to always try to hassle for a better deal than the neighbor. In any case, it sure must not flatter their ego.

I don,t see anything wrong for the ladies to pool together their resources and help each other. There are much more chances that this is a true regrouping of Indies when it is run by a lady of the trade rather than by a man.

IMHO if the girls can continue to take appointements on their own, they are part of a grouping of Indies and if they have to be exclusive then they are definitely part of an agency, whether they are called such or not.

Vulcan
 

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Using such services doesn't make SP's less independent than they claim to be, that's the principle. The reality, on the other hand, might instruct otherwise:

Just-ass-weet said:
Sorry, these are all agencies
 
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naughtylady

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Just-ass-weet said:
but working with a booking agency, or advertise on one of those style of websites, sorry - it is a no-brainer... they are not Indies. Sorry Ronnie, sorry Judy, or Wild or anyone else... but an Indy is someone who takes care of all her own stuff. Her reputation is not linked with other ladies or with a website.

xoxox
Anik

Anik, you obviously do not know how purrfect playmates works. We do take care of our own stuff, talk to the clients ourselves book our own appointments... In fact the clients are interested in me are refered to my web site for more details

Purrfect Playmates exists to advertise in the agency section because many gents do not ever look at indy's and this gives us exposure to them and allows those gentleman to decide if any of us suits their taste.

Ronnie,
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Just-ass-weet

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Please Ronnie, do not try to insult my intelligence since you did call me yourself to join your little group so I am very much aware of the set-up and throroughly not impressed at all. Sorry to be so blunt, but really, I realize that montreal ladies have little better to do than to attack one another like savages. And I thought the guys could be classless (rolleyes)

Anik

naughtylady said:
Anik, you obviously do not know how purrfect playmates works. We do take care of our own stuff, talk to the clients ourselves book our own appointments... In fact the clients are interested in me are refered to my web site for more details

Purrfect Playmates exists to advertise in the agency section because many gents do not ever look at indy's and this gives us exposure to them and allows those gentleman to decide if any of us suits their taste.

Ronnie,
Naughtylady
 
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naughtylady

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Just-ass-weet said:
Of the ones quoted above, only 1 advertises in the Mirror (and none anywhere else)... yes, all advertise here....
xoxox
Anik

Purrfect Playmates advertises on 22 sites...

Ronnie,
Naughtylady
 

naughtylady

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Just-ass-weet said:
Please Ronnie, do not try to insult my intelligence since you did call me yourself to join your little group so I am very much aware of the set-up and throroughly not impressed at all. Sorry to be so blunt, but really, I realize that montreal ladies have little better to do than to attack one another like savages. And I thought the guys could be classless (rolleyes)

Anik

Anik, you did not have time to talk about it with me; you were leaving to go out of town... we never went over any details... I am not trying to insult your intelligence but I never had a chance to discuss it with you.

Ronnie,
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naughtylady

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OK so I am no longer independant because I joined together with a bunch of friends so that we can post ads in the agency section of various advertising sites???? :confused:

I still earn the exact same thing on every call whether they call Purrfect Playmates first or just call me. I still represent myself because the client has to talk to me before I see him. I still have my own site and my own clients. The clients I meet through Playmates ads are my clients and contact me direct for futur dates.

Playmates is a way to gain extra visibility through ads placed in the agency sections of sites; places where as an indy I could not have access to.

Ronnie,
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Just-ass-weet

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What could have been discussed? 60$ a call (in light of your post # 52 - maybe you need to have a talk with your "boss"???)? 22 advertising opportunities? Only 2 of them paid for (okay maybe even 3 or 4)? And that allows me to be associated with a group of woman, who if they misbehave or act inappropriately, my rep goes with it? Come on Ronnie. I know you are smarter than all of that, and in all actuality, I keep asking myself, what the heck happened to you that you would associate yourself and your GOOD name with an agency that has a horrid website, and whos' front person has been banned here and lacks respect for other people. I can assure you, that you have LOST some business because of your association with that agency.

You were an INDY at one point, now you're part of Purrrfect - see the difference?

I hope you don't see this as me attacking you, I like you, I just don't feel that you can be considered truly Indy anymore.

xoxox
Anik

naughtylady said:
Anik, you did not have time to talk about it with me; you were leaving to go out of town... we never went over any details... I am not trying to insult your intelligence but I never had a chance to discuss it with you.

Ronnie,
Naughtylady
 
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