Ask us anything part 3

[Lunaseraphim]

Isn’t that a waste of time in your part?
Why not just chat at while at incall/outcall location where it’s more private ?

I don't want to answer for Lena but an incall or outcall is for the gfe or pse service and that involves chatting and hanging out unless it's a very short booking.

Social time should be outside in a neutral environment in my opinion. Sometimes people book 2 or 3 hour incall dates and obviously a big part of the booking is talking.

They don't ask us to charge for social time for part of the booking that's indoors..

I've had ppl tell me "come to my hotel for 4 hours and I'll pay you 2 hours for social time and 2 hours gfe" lol.. it's not how it works. I sometimes make exceptions and adjustments if a meal and a refreshment are included. But spending such a long time in a room or incall space without an activity can be hard, and social time should not include any type of intimacy.

 

[LC18]

I would not see a client for free no matter the activity he’s offering.

I can offer discounts if it’s something I really really want to do but never for free.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Another good point is that a lot of clients actually only want social time. This is why I have a social rate personally, even if not all SP's have one. Really often clients will ask to meet you for free at a coffee shop or a park instead of screening lol. It's just not acceptable to ask for that in my opinion, even if I would understand if another SP did it. A couple weeks ago, a client booked me for 2-3 hours of social time at a bar. One of the goals was to see if we would be a good match in terms of intimacy and he wanted to discuss certain scenarios. It turns out he had needs that I couldn't fulfill, but we still had a lot of fun and great conversations. I've had clients book me just to go see a movie or to go to the restaurant before, because they enjoyed the companionship they knew I would provide.

 

[Jaxan]

Guessing the answer depends alot on the client (new or familiar), duration, and social activity. But in general, do you prefer bookings that are 100% social, 50/50 social/gfe, or 100% gfe? Also taking into consideration the difference in rates/income you will receive.

 

[Rebaynia]

Guessing the answer depends alot on the client (new or familiar), duration, and social activity. But in general, do you prefer bookings that are 100% social, 50/50 social/gfe, or 100% gfe? Also taking into consideration the difference in rates/income you will receive.

I don't have a social discount...
And just because a booking is private, doesn't instantly make it gfe. Gfe is an atmosphere of closeness, not a list of sexual acronyms. You can have sex and not have an ounce of closeness, but that is not gfe.
Just because I haven't done social time, doesn't mean I won't do it, but I need to know the person privately before I am willing to be out on public with them. (Yes I know how backwards that sounds.)
So my preference I guess is 100% gfe/and social privately behind closed doors. But would be up to being taken out by a regular.

 

[Nachoy]

What advise would you give to clients that are married and not getting enough sex at home and desire to have more sex with SO?

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Gfe is an atmosphere of closeness, not a list of sexual acronyms.

From your point of view maybe. From the very beginning the usage of GFE implied a certain level of services. Only recently some providers have started to use it as to lure customers into booking them and from there they tried to redefine the meaning of it. We now see clients claiming that for them GFE is not about acronym neither, I don’t care about those simp, I call bs on their claim.

Personally I stick to the original meaning and will certainly ask a few questions before deciding to book a girl pretending to offer a GFE experience.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Guessing the answer depends alot on the client (new or familiar), duration, and social activity. But in general, do you prefer bookings that are 100% social, 50/50 social/gfe, or 100% gfe? Also taking into consideration the difference in rates/income you will receive.

It depends on what you mean by this. A lot of SP's have a fixed rate for dinner dates, but I charge the dinner as social time personally, which might change in the future. When you say 100% gfe do you mean sexual activity the whole time.. because that rarely happens, and very often socializing is part of GFE. Personally, I do enjoy longer dates that involve social time. I like getting to know clients. I do enjoy social dates. The reason I'm saying this isn't because I don't like the intimacy, I do, and I take that aspect very seriously, but what I like the most about being an escort is getting to know new people and spending time with them. Obviously I like getting any type of booking.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

And just because a booking is private, doesn't instantly make it gfe. Gfe is an atmosphere of closeness, not a list of sexual acronyms.

I understand what you mean 100%. Really often I have bookings that happen in a way that make me think the person was not looking for GFE, and more for a list of acronyms. It's okay and part of the job but it makes me wonder. Most clients book me because they enjoy the companionship and conversations and they like my energy.

 

[Rebaynia]

What advise would you give to clients that are married and not getting enough sex at home and desire to have more sex with SO?

I would suggest romance her, talk to her, see what your SO is desiring or missing to be in the mood with you.
There are many reasons someone may not be in the mood.
Hormones, feeling over worked, feeling taken advantage of, feeling undesired, then there can be sexual disconnect, not on the same page for desires, incompatible expectations in the bedroom, unappreciated, sex feeling like a chore because she isn't feeling pleasure i the exchange... ect. The list goes on what the problem/s can be. It just often as humans it is easier to sit back and blame the other person, rather than look at how we can do our own part in correcting the issues.
And it's more than just talk, but actually correcting issues. Complaining she isn't putting out isn't going to help, and only make sex a chore to her, but to find out what will get her to want it from you is golden. A relationship is an active work over time to keep it alive, by both parties involved. When either stops trying, it's only a matter of time before both stop trying.

 

[Jaxan]

It depends on what you mean by this. A lot of SP's have a fixed rate for dinner dates, but I charge the dinner as social time personally, which might change in the future. When you say 100% gfe do you mean sexual activity the whole time.. because that rarely happens, and very often socializing is part of GFE. Personally, I do enjoy longer dates that involve social time. I like getting to know clients. I do enjoy social dates. The reason I'm saying this isn't because I don't like the intimacy, I do, and I take that aspect very seriously, but what I like the most about being an escort is getting to know new people and spending time with them. Obviously I like getting any type of booking.

I was just being lazy, when I was using the GFE term, I was just trying to define the non-social rate/time spent, of course whatever that means is different depending on the SP.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

From your point of view maybe. From the very beginning the usage of GFE implied a certain level of services. Only recently some providers have started to use it as to lure customers into booking them and from there they tried to redefine the meaning of it. We now see clients claiming that for them GFE is not about acronym neither, I don’t care about those simp, I call bs on their claim.

Personally I stick to the original meaning and will certainly ask a few questions before deciding to book a girl pretending to offer a GFE experience.

I'm not saying that GFE doesn't involve those acronyms. I don't think you should call other clients simps and insult them, it's really not nice to judge other people's needs honestly. As a GFE companion, YES, I do provide the acronyms normally associated with GFE and even more. But it's a certain energy and atmosphere too, and yes, some gentlemen are looking for that.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

I don't think you should call other clients simps

Well when I see a cat I call it a cat,, I don’t try to be nice or rude, I just name things as they are. Not here to please everyone.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Well when I see a cat I call it a cat,, I don’t try to be nice or rude, I just name things as they are. Not here to please everyone.

It's very subjective honestly. I have a cat and I don't call her a simp cause she likes spending time with me (this is a joke in case anybody is wondering)

Not everyone is looking for the same thing through booking SP's. Your needs are just fine, and so are other people's.

 

[Workingman]

It's very subjective honestly. I have a cat and I don't call her a simp cause she likes spending time with me (this is a joke in case anybody is wondering)

Not everyone is looking for the same thing through booking SP's. Your needs are just fine, and so are other people's.

I'd much prefer being considered a simp as opposed to whatever he is.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

I'd much prefer being considered a simp as opposed to whatever he is.

Feel free to elaborate on whatever you think I am! I would be more than happy to hear it!

 

[Fradi]

I think the Capt has a point that GFE was standing for a certain type of service and what is included in it.
It was an easy way for a client to know what he can expect and I don’t see anything wrong with that.
Personally that and looks may be what I use to choose a companion but it is certainly not the reason I will keep seeing her.

I am quite easy to please so acronyms are not a must I am more into the sensual and easy going experience where some relaxed conversation over wine may be as important as the physical gymnastics..

I am not the language police either I look at what is meant by what someone writes and not just the actual words.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I think the Capt has a point that GFE was standing for a certain type of service and what is included in it.
It was an easy way for a client to know what he can expect and I don’t see anything wrong with that.
Personally that and looks may be what I use to choose a companion but it is certainly not the reason I will keep seeing her.

I am quite easy to please so acronyms are not a must I am more into the sensual and easy going experience where some relaxed conversation over wine may be as important as the physical gymnastics..

I am not the language police either I look at what is meant by what someone writes and not just the actual words.

I'm well aware that I can't advertise gfe without offering those services don't worry! That wasn't my point and I don't think that was what Rebaynia was talking about, either. We were just saying that the experience is MORE than just a set of acronyms.

That being said very often I get asked for services that are not part of the acronyms included in gfe and some have complained that I didn't offer them, and it's annoying.

(Example 2 reviews, one here and one elsewhere, saying I didn't dt the client which is not supposedly part of gfe and they actually never asked for it during the booking process OR during the appointment. I modified my ad to say it's ymmv and not always possible but i never even said I did it in the first place. Or ppl asking me to perform dato on them or do weird role play... My gfe service involves more than the usual acronyms sometimes but I'm very clear about what I do and don't do. I think im generous tho)

You also said it. Yes you will see a provider considering the fact that some acronyms are included but other reasons make you go back to a specific person and you enjoy the dates for many reasons not just the sexual part of the service.

 

[Fradi]

You also said it. Yes you will see a provider considering the fact that some acronyms are included but other reasons make you go back to a specific person and you enjoy the dates for many reasons not just the sexual part of the service.

Yes the ladies I see repeatedly I would be happy to drive to Costco lol, or anywhere else and to have them as a friend even if they stopped being escorts and they know it.

 

[Nachoy]

Sexual acts can be wide and varied
So including all certain acts in a category of either PSE or GFE is too simplistic in my view
I get a chuckle from these exchanges.
Disclaimer I’m not meeting escorts and doing SBs.
For me the ultimate girl friend experience is a SB that I take out for dates. Chat casually during dinner, hold hands and go shopping. Go together on trips and then have porn star sex when alone Best of both worlds in my opinion

I feel the word Simp is thrown around too casually by dudes who want to feel alpha to their counterparts staking their claim that “my dick is bigger than yours”.
Or maybe I’m wrong
And it’s the pot calling the kettle black.