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I don't really understand what you mean by client bashing.... It's okay to say when someone is acting in a way that's not respectful. Also, I didn''t say people HAVE to give me "rewards"... but I put so much effort into advertising that sometimes a gift is appreciated. That's all. And obviously if you are generous to her as a client this is much different than someone who's actually never booked you and never will.. I interpreted the initial question that way.

I think it's fine for people to ask for wishlists and tips. Sending a specific client who isn't bothering you a wishlist is strange however.. For sure.
I think I didn’t make it clear and it is normal you misunderstood, my comments were not directed or had anything to do with you.
I don’t really concern myself with what other people do they can do as they like.

I meant I follow her because she is not into constant client bashing and complaining about clients, that part had nothing to do with gifts.
Some ladies think it is quite ok to non stop complain and bitch about their client basically about anything and everything. These ladies I wouldn’t go near and avoid them like the plague and certainly wouldn’t follow them, but you inadvertently come across them when reading someone who you are following.

It wasn’t about complaining about not getting gifts because someone follows you on Twitter.

I kind of find it strange for ladies to expect gifts simply because someone follows you on Twitter and reads your tweets.
Why would I be giving gifts to someone that I have never met and have no intention of meeting.
I won’t follow someone I have no intention of meeting either.

Gifts and tips when you actually see someone that is a whole different thing and I find that natural and it actually feels as good to give as to receive when you enjoy being with someone.

Twitter is a strange place I have never posted anything other than replying to the lady I am following and seeing occasionally yet I have over 90 followers all being women with the exception of one.
I didn’t have to guess why, when I looked it didn’t surprise me that they all wanted to sell me something mostly nudes lol.
 
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Question for the ladies about precum. How often to guys have it? I get it, a lot! It is sometimes embarrassing and have been asked it I already came. Some do not seem to mind at all, some recoil in disgust which kills the mood. How "normal" is it?
 

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Question for the ladies about precum. How often to guys have it? I get it, a lot! It is sometimes embarrassing and have been asked it I already came. Some do not seem to mind at all, some recoil in disgust which kills the mood. How "normal" is it?
You are normal; some have less, some have more. I lubricate less than most women but there's nothing wrong with my body. Normal is normal, there's no degree.
 

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There's findom but like it is such a niche kink that you have to say it somewhere on your profile or in a pinned post so people who are not into it don't follow you and then wonder what's going on when they get call out for not spoiling

I guess some people are expecting all their work to be paid which includes marketing and interaction on SM. Time is money is the mantra?
I don't personally feel like all my interactions should be paid at all, but some people push it.. I get expected to entertain certain gentleman for free and have very long conversations and they don't book me. Or they want to organize a 15 minute sexting or Skype session and organizing it lasts hours. I also get inappropriate messages and responses.. I'm not going to ask potential clients to pay for interacting with me, but it's more the fact that they don't want to book and want my attention that gets annoying at times.

Findom is completely different from a sp asking for a wish list or tips once in a while too. Some sps have consultation fees meaning they charge clients just to have conversations about their services. It's not something I would do personally but time wasters can be frustrating
 

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I think I didn’t make it clear and it is normal you misunderstood, my comments were not directed or had anything to do with you.
I don’t really concern myself with what other people do they can do as they like.

I meant I follow her because she is not into constant client bashing and complaining about clients, that part had nothing to do with gifts.
Some ladies think it is quite ok to non stop complain and bitch about their client basically about anything and everything. These ladies I wouldn’t go near and avoid them like the plague and certainly wouldn’t follow them, but you inadvertently come across them when reading someone who you are following.

It wasn’t about complaining about not getting gifts because someone follows you on Twitter.

I kind of find it strange for ladies to expect gifts simply because someone follows you on Twitter and reads your tweets.
Why would I be giving gifts to someone that I have never met and have no intention of meeting.
I won’t follow someone I have no intention of meeting either.

Gifts and tips when you actually see someone that is a whole different thing and I find that natural and it actually feels as good to give as to receive when you enjoy being with someone.

Twitter is a strange place I have never posted anything other than replying to the lady I am following and seeing occasionally yet I have over 90 followers all being women with the exception of one.
I didn’t have to guess why, when I looked it didn’t surprise me that they all wanted to sell me something mostly nudes lol.
There are accounts on Twitter made by sps who want to vent about their work if that's what you're referring to..

I have received gifts and tips from clients I've never met just because they live too far and they like my personality. It's always a nice surprise, but obviously not a common thing..
 
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Hypothetically. If you had a discrete relationship with a regular client and client’s SO found out and confronted you. How would you handle this ?
 

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There are accounts on Twitter made by sps who want to vent about their work if that's what you're referring to..

I have received gifts and tips from clients I've never met just because they live too far and they like my personality. It's always a nice surprise, but obviously not a common thing..
There is nothing wrong with venting and some have a sense of humour about how they do it and it is entertaining.and fine.

Then there are the obvious ones who never stop and you can easily tell they hate men and hate what they are doing these are the ones I am talking about that are toxic and I wouldn’t go near.

Why wouldn’t you accept gifts if it was offered even if they are from far away and you will never see them, it wouldn’t make sense and there is nothing wrong with it. Nobody is twisting their arm to do it.

When someone outright complains and calls men out on it and demands money and gifts that is cringe worthy and totally not ok.
 
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Hypothetically. If you had a discrete relationship with a regular client and client’s SO found out and confronted you. How would you handle this ?

Why would an escort have a relationship with someone who is already in a relationship? The sheer lack of self respect + respect for another woman in this scenario is something else haha.

If you meant our client-provider relationship, I would probably ignore the message from his partner as I'm only doing my job. I'd understand that she is hurt but ultimately this is their drama to deal with, not mine.

One time a girlfriend walked in on me sucking her man's dick, I silently got dressed, told her that I was sorry she had to go through that, wished her good luck and left. She was sweet about it though, while visibly upset at him and hurt, she complimented me on my looks and wished me a good day. I wish I'd offered to take her shopping on her man's dime, she was genuinely sweet and I felt bad for her.
 

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Nachoy's question reminds me of a real life situation where his exact question materialized. It was back in around 2009 or 2010 in New York City. I was a member of a very high end full service massage parlor located in Gramercy Park with another location in Hell's Kitchen. The MP had its own private message board. The owner posted on the message board a message intended for the wife or significant other of a member who had discovered her SO's activities on his computer due to his negligence in computer security. Tiger Woods type situation. From what the owner told me via PM at that time, it was a "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" situation. The enraged wife began calling the MP and excoriating the phone bookers, all young women, with all manner of insults. The harassment continued relentlessly for around a week and the phone girls (who were just college kids I think) were threatening to quit. So the message the owner posted was calm and rational and basically told the wife (who was reading the message board due to the security breach) that the MP was not responsible for her husband's behavior and that the behavior was the result of him not getting something he needed at home. I was very impressed with her message and told her so at that time. It was intelligent, well reasoned, forthright and likely 100% true.

The harassment stopped, eventually. I think it was maybe her anger ran out more than the message's impact, but the message likely helped.
 

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Why would an escort have a relationship with someone who is already in a relationship? The sheer lack of self respect + respect for another woman in this scenario is something else haha.
Well, my client-provider relationships are discreet ones, so to me that's what we are talking about. I would not handle the situation, I would not get involved and would let go!
 

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Well, my client-provider relationships are discreet ones, so to me that's what we are talking about. I would not handle the situation, I would not get involved and would let go!
But what if you were bombarded with phone calls as was the MP I posted about? Would you have handled the same way?

BTW that MP was very discreet. It was the member who wasn't. And that's why this would happen to any of you! This is common sense. It's the clients who will screw up.
 

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But what if you were bombarded with phone calls as was the MP I posted about? Would you have handled the same way?
I do not have a phone number so I would not get calls, and it's easy to block someone, or signal as spam and delete emails without even reading them. I want nothing to do with these situations, I don't need this in my life and I am happy it never happened so far (knock on wood).

It's the clients who will screw up.
It is. They are so anal about discretion, yet are the ones allowing notifications and message previews on locked screen.
 

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There is nothing wrong with venting and some have a sense of humour about how they do it and it is entertaining.and fine.

Then there are the obvious ones who never stop and you can easily tell they hate men and hate what they are doing these are the ones I am talking about that are toxic and I wouldn’t go near.

Why wouldn’t you accept gifts if it was offered even if they are from far away and you will never see them, it wouldn’t make sense and there is nothing wrong with it. Nobody is twisting their arm to do it.

When someone outright complains and calls men out on it and demands money and gifts that is cringe worthy and totally not ok.
I think I understand your point of view, because I actually genuinely like my clients.. A lot of clients treat me better than men I've dated in my personal life before. I know that sounds wild, but it's true. I also love meeting people that I wouldn't meet otherwise. That's really valuable for me, and a huge part of why I like being a SP. There are difficult things about what we do, sometimes we are not well treated, so I get why many providers need to vent... But obviously not all guys are like this. :)
 
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Hypothetically. If you had a discrete relationship with a regular client and client’s SO found out and confronted you. How would you handle this ?
I would have a really hard time with this. I am aware that some clients who are regulars have SO's, but it's not the same thing as having an arrangement or ''discreet relationship'' like SD SB dynamic. I would not want a SD who is married, unless his wife knew what he was up to.
 

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One time a girlfriend walked in on me sucking her man's dick, I silently got dressed, told her that I was sorry she had to go through that, wished her good luck and left. She was sweet about it though, while visibly upset at him and hurt, she complimented me on my looks and wished me a good day. I wish I'd offered to take her shopping on her man's dime, she was genuinely sweet and I felt bad for her.
I'm so sorry this happened. I would have been so upset. :(
 

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I think I understand your point of view, because I actually genuinely like my clients.. A lot of clients treat me better than men I've dated in my personal life before. I know that sounds wild, but it's true. I also love meeting people that I wouldn't meet otherwise. That's really valuable for me, and a huge part of why I like being a SP. There are difficult things about what we do, sometimes we are not well treated, so I get why many providers need to vent... But obviously not all guys are like this. :)
I honestly don’t see why a client would not go out of his way to be nice and kind to an SP.
What kind of experience is he expecting to have if he is being rude or disrespectful.

Besides it is extremely dangerous to get a BJ from someone who is totally pissed off at you.
 

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Do you feel any difference in the level of sexual excitement with new client versus regular returning client ?
 

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I honestly don’t see why a client would not go out of his way to be nice and kind to an SP.
What kind of experience is he expecting to have if he is being rude or disrespectful.

Besides it is extremely dangerous to get a BJ from someone who is totally pissed off at you.
Clients are not always nice but I would say lately I've mostly met lovely gentlemen
 
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