Ask us anything part 3

[MCTJ]

question for clients.

what are your expectations for a gfe service, and what are your expectations for a pse service?
earlier i got a request from a member of the forum asking me for pse, although it's not on my ad lol.. there are reasons why i don't offer pse (one thing is that greek seems to be expected) but sometimes i'm not entirely sure what it even means.

GFE: client expects a certain level of sexual intimacy that is typical of a BF/GF relationship. Kissing, cuddling, BJ,DATY,FS and some emotional intimacy, to the extent that's possible with a given escort.

PSE: from my experience reading this board, client has a mental checklist of acronyms that include one or more of the following: CIM, COF, Greek. He may also be under the impression that fucking for 30-60 min straight is absolutely normal (it's not).

 

[Lunaseraphim]

This is a difficult question as the expectations vary depending on region, but generally speaking internationally across the majority of venues GFE is a more romantic experience (like a girlfriend) and signifies that extended periods of french kissing will be expected and permitted. Some providers don't like to do this and so using "GFE" denotes those who will.

PSE can mean more and different things and is much more provider specific, but most often means that anal is on the menu.

Now, again this is globally vs here in Montreal, and there is a variety of people interpreting these terms in different ways, so that can't be taken as gospel for everyone. As always it's best to be clear in what everyone's expectations are beforehand

I was asked for pse without greek yesterday and when I said the abbreviations I offer and said all my ads say I'm gfe, the person did not answer.

 

[S.S neo]

I was asked for pse without greek yesterday and when I said the abbreviations I offer and said all my ads say I'm gfe, the person did not answer.

It's interesting because according to your definition, sometimes my gfe clients will act like i'm offering pse, particularly guys who book short sessions.

I’ve read your page and the services you offer. Other provider would put some of the services in PSE (dato, bls.69, cimsw) or even in the kink category (domination, DT)

So i guess it’s all in the ‘vibe’ of how it is done. You can give a sensual bbbj until cimsw while the guy is comfortably sitting in a couch(GFE) or give the bbbj while on your knees asking the guy to give you cimsw while holding your head (pse) ...

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I’ve read your page and the services you offer. Other provider would put some of the services in PSE (dato, bls.69, cimsw) or even in the kink category (domination, DT)

So i guess it’s all in the ‘vibe’ of how it is done. You can give a sensual bbbj until cimsw while the guy is comfortably sitting in a couch(GFE) or give the bbbj while on your knees asking the guy to give you cimsw while holding your head (pse) ...

Then why did the person not answer me once I said I offer GFE only? lol that's also the difference. I don't want someone to hold my head or slap me or pull my hair or do that type of thing.

 

[S.S neo]

Then why did the person not answer me once I said I offer GFE only? lol that's also the difference. I don't want someone to hold my head or slap me or pull my hair or do that type of thing.

Probably because he read your acronyms and thought about a porn scene he saw and wanted to know if you could recreate it :-(. or maybe he’s just a timewaster ...

 

[minutemenX]

Then why did the person not answer me once I said I offer GFE only? lol that's also the difference. I don't want someone to hold my head or slap me or pull my hair or do that type of thing.

For me PSE means availability of CIM, DT, and anal with no surcharge. Rough play, domination etc. are different categories and need to be negotiated separately even if the girl advertises PSE.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Probably because he read your acronyms and thought about a porn scene he saw and wanted to know if you could recreate it :-(. or maybe he’s just a timewaster ...

This is so annoying, because I'm already generous enough to add extra acronyms to my gfe service lol. I also think it's weird that I'm constantly if I offer DT or greek despite only advertising GFE, and listing all acronyms.

Anyhow, next question?

 

[LC18]

Whatever you offer, you’ll always find people that will be happy with just that there’s no need to change or try to please everyone.


Those that actively seek unannounced services from someone are not only setting themselves up for disappointment but also probably aren’t the clients you want to meet anyways.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Whatever you offer, you’ll always find people that will be happy with just that there’s no need to change or try to please everyone.


Those that actively seek unannounced services from someone are not only setting themselves up for disappointment but also probably aren’t the clients you want to meet anyways.

indeed!

 

[RockerGuy]

GFE:
"Ohhh, I love to feel you inside me ... kiss me"


PSE:
"Fuck me harder you dirty bastard"

This is great! To me, PSE is gonna come with some extra services above and beyond GFE, but it's more the mindset and the style of the session.

I have induged in a lot of PSE and some didnt come standard with anal, or anal was an extra. So I never assume that PSE means anal will be automatically on offer, and ask about it as well. I even had a PSE that was unspeakably kinky in some ways, but it didnt seem like COF/CIM was a possibility. Still a stellar session.

 

[Jaxan]

That's not very specific tho.

That's the issue, there is no standard, and the terms can mean different things to different people. Maybe best to specify services you provide and what your restrictions are, rather than generalize with GFE/PSE, as that can lead to varying expectations from client to client.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

That's the issue, there is no standard, and the terms can mean different things to different people. Maybe best to specify services you provide and what your restrictions are, rather than generalize with GFE/PSE, as that can lead to varying expectations from client to client.

i agree! that's why i think sometimes these terms can be a bit misleading. i do think that for a lot of clients, gfe involves a certain level of emotional intimacy and a ''softer'' vibe.

 

[Sylar]

For me GFE / PSE also depends on the look and vibe of the person. I would have a hard time booking a SP for GFE who has that cliche stripper look. I know that this is my personal bias, but yeah... The other way around is more feasible.