Ask us anything part 3

[LeDodo]

Yes but that's still not what I'm talking about. If someone has small breasts that's usually clear on photos so why complain about it in reviews? I see such comments as "you can see in photos, she has x body type, 0/10" ...

Why did he go see her if he doesn't like her body type? If you don't like older women why did you see someone who says she's 45 in her ad and complain "she looks her age"?

That's what my question is about. If a SP isn't your type there's no point in seeing her, unless you're ready to have an open mind.

I also think it's weird that if a booking didn't go well due to various factors the reviewer would go out of his way to insult the SP.. it's cruel and weird..

Yes shaming a SP after a booking that didn't go well is utterly cruel and weird.
We can see the same type of behavior in like Google reviews. Like people giving one star when something they didn't like and exaggerating everything. That's also why one needs to be careful with reviews as you need to make your own idea based on the averaged comments (if there is enough). Because it's easy to give subjective views instead of objectively on services itself. Unfortunately online reviews have open doors to unaccountable violence/bullying

 

[LC18]

Maybe I'm too trusting (naive) for all this idk

I just (so far) have trouble finishing with condoms. So if a service doesn't include bbbj and daty/dato it just doesn't interest me too much.

I think it’s normal to be at first but lucky for you, you’re at the perfect place to educate yourself on the matter

 

[Alucard87]

No the message isn't that you're too naive, Lena was joking and trying to show a flaw in your reasoning. Most providers take hygiene very seriously, that's the point. If you want a GFE service then go to an agency or hire an independent provider.

Thank you, perhaps I chose the wrong words. My expectations might be off. I know what the reality is that being "first" doesn't guarantee anything. I've seen other reviews here where cleanliness was a big issue, and that can happen with anyone. I think I just don't want to go to a MP and was trying to justify my way out of it. I had been looking at La MTL and some of the girls (most) advertise full service.

I think it’s normal to be at first but lucky for you, you’re at the perfect place to educate yourself on the matter

Yes ma'am

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Thank you, perhaps I chose the wrong words. My expectations might be off. I know what the reality is that being "first" doesn't guarantee anything. I've seen other reviews here where cleanliness was a big issue, and that can happen with anyone. I think I just don't want to go to a MP and was trying to justify my way out of it. I had been looking at La MTL and some of the girls (most) advertise full service.

If I were you I would take reviews with a grain of salt.. Sometimes reviews are very harsh, unnecessarily so. Also, full service isn't the same as GFE. Full service just means there is penetration. It usually just means CBJ and sex. At the spa where I worked most of us were full service but anything GFE related (kissing, bbbj, daty) was an extra. A lot of girls didn't offer any of these at all because they were really risk averse. I'd say that's even why some clients go to spas, they want completely safe services and they don't want to pay for someone's full GFE rate, which is usually higher.

 

[Nachoy]

Yes but that's still not what I'm talking about. If someone has small breasts that's usually clear on photos so why complain about it in reviews? I see such comments as "you can see in photos, she has x body type, 0/10" ...

Why did he go see her if he doesn't like her body type? If you don't like older women why did you see someone who says she's 45 in her ad and complain "she looks her age"?

That's what my question is about. If a SP isn't your type there's no point in seeing her, unless you're ready to have an open mind.

I also think it's weird that if a booking didn't go well due to various factors the reviewer would go out of his way to insult the SP.. it's cruel and weird..

there are people who are never satisfied, ever
Give them a sunny day instead of a raining day and they will find a way to complain that its too sunny for them
As a SP you cannot please everyone and I would say most encounters are going to be okay , but there going to a few that complain no matter what

 

[Lunaseraphim]

there are people who are never satisfied, ever
Give them a sunny day instead of a raining day and they will find a way to complain that its too sunny for them
As a SP you cannot please everyone and I would say most encounters are going to be okay , but there going to a few that complain no matter what

Agreed.

 

[LeDodo]

Do you play music or a playlist to set the mood? Candles? Rose petals?

 

[jeffmathers]

Well, I'm specifically thinking about reviews in which the provider looks like her photos.. Like for instance if someone is not curvy and doesn't have big boobs or a big butt, that's pretty easy to see. Why complain about it in a review?

On ne devrait pas manquer de respect aux travailleuses. C'est absurd de voir des gens s'indigner de l'impossibilité de répondre à leurs attentes. J'connais des travailleuses du sexe de grande taille qui disent avoir reçu de mauvaises critiques en disant « Elle était trop tall», alors qu'elle avait indiqué sa taille dans l'annonce et que le client lui avait demandé de porter des heels.

J' crois q beaucoup de gens sont misogynes et/ou amers d'avoir été rejetés par une personne physiquement attirante par le passé, et que c'est la seule façon pour eux de satisfaire leur ego blessé. J'aimerais q les travailleurs de tous les secteurs soient traités avec respect et humanité. Pourtant, nombreux sont ceux qui prennent plaisir à insulter les travailleurs.

 

[LC18]

Do you play music or a playlist to set the mood? Candles? Rose petals?

Music: always
Candles: sometimes
Flower petals: never

 

[LC18]

[Clients]

Please help me understand your logic.
A) Why do clients assume that we must see men from dawn til dusk? Then insist on being the first of that fantasy fuck-o-thon

It would be absolutely insane physically. You wouldn’t be able to sustain that lifestyle for a long period of time

B) Why do clients think that if you have free time, you’re not making money?
Bringing us back to point A, we should be fucking all day otherwise we’re broke

As if we can’t be booked for a 48 hours date with a client and not have to work for the rest of the month

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Do you play music or a playlist to set the mood? Candles? Rose petals?

Music yes, candles yes, rose petals would be messy..

 

[Lunaseraphim]

[Clients]

Please help me understand your logic.
A) Why do clients assume that we must see men from dawn til dusk? Then insist on being the first of that fantasy fuck-o-thon

It would be absolutely insane physically. You wouldn’t be able to sustain that lifestyle for a long period of time

B) Why do clients think that if you have free time, you’re not making money?
Bringing us back to point A, we should be fucking all day otherwise we’re broke

As if we can’t be booked for a 48 hours date with a client and not have to work for the rest of the month

Yes this is something I find kinda confusing because these assumptions lead to weird situations... One thing I find really mind boggling is how some clients think indy providers don't get business

 

[LeDodo]

[Clients]

Please help me understand your logic.
A) Why do clients assume that we must see men from dawn til dusk? Then insist on being the first of that fantasy fuck-o-thon

It would be absolutely insane physically. You wouldn’t be able to sustain that lifestyle for a long period of time

B) Why do clients think that if you have free time, you’re not making money?
Bringing us back to point A, we should be fucking all day otherwise we’re broke

As if we can’t be booked for a 48 hours date with a client and not have to work for the rest of the month

Maybe because for most of the people, working is from 9 to 5 and you're continuously working during working hours. Same goes for the free time, by assuming that if you're not working you're not earning money.

However I think the fact that they are not aware of the financials behind make them having those quick logic.

I guess that this logic fades when you understand that SP hourly rate is way higher than your 9/5 hence you have more "free time", you don't have a boss so you decide when to work or not. But everyone's financial burden, needs or goals are different so is the free time we have at the end of the day.

 

[LC18]

Maybe because for most of the people, working is from 9 to 5 and you're continuously working during working hours. Same goes for the free time, by assuming that if you're not working you're not earning money.

However I think the fact that they are not aware of the financials behind make them having those quick logic.

I guess that this logic fades when you understand that SP hourly rate is way higher than your 9/5 hence you have more "free time", you don't have a boss so you decide when to work or not. But everyone's financial burden, needs or goals are different so is the free time we have at the end of the day.

I like how you think and to be honest this makes so much sense. That 9 to 5 comparison is great

Edit: I think it’s often coming from men booking 30-60 mins date and thinking every other men does the same. They can’t imagine that someone would want to spend more time with one of us so they think that to make money we have to see 10 men for 30 mins each

 

[Giselle Montreal]

Edit: I think it’s often coming from men booking 30-60 mins date and thinking every other men does the same. They can’t imagine that someone would want to spend more time with one of us so they think that to make money we have to see 10 men for 30 mins each

That is so true. Some can't believe other clients really pay just to "eat" or "sleep" with us. They don’t realize what they’re missing during those long dates...

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Edit: I think it’s often coming from men booking 30-60 mins date and thinking every other men does the same. They can’t imagine that someone would want to spend more time with one of us so they think that to make money we have to see 10 men for 30 mins each

Yes I think that's it. Some men can't imagine that someone would book more than 30 or 45 minutes because that's what they always book.

It's rare that I get bookings under an hour nowadays, but when I do, I try to see more than one client admittedly because it's a pain to go to my incall (which is almost an hour away from my place by public transit), clean, get ready etc just for 30 minutes even if I understand some people don't have time for more and I want affordable options for everyone

That is so true. Some can't believe other clients really pay just to "eat" or "sleep" with. They don’t realize what they’re missing during those long dates...

I agree. The most fun bookings are longer than an hour. The 2-3-4 hour bookings, the dinner dates, etc. Not just for us but for the clients because the connection becomes deeper

 

[LC18]

I’m not interested in 30, 60 mins options anymore. Maybe I’m getting older (merb doesn’t like women that aren’t fresh out of high school)* but I don’t have the energy for those.

Like you Luna, I don’t live in my incall so I have to physically get there. I share it with other people so I have to set the space and mood. It’s a lot just to host for 30 mins.

It’s also not pleasant to be with someone for such a short period, I feel rushed. “I can’t talk too much or he will feel robbed”

I’ve removed all options under 90 mins including massages, I feel a lot lighter and excited about the upcoming dates

 

[Rebaynia]

Do you play music or a playlist to set the mood? Candles? Rose petals?

I'm outcall, their house, so it is often up to them if they wish to set up a mood. It adds the the atmosphere for sure.

 

[Rebaynia]

As if we can’t be booked for a 48 hours date with a client and not have to work for the rest of the month

Not to mention, as much fun as it can be on here, or on other social media sites, being out there and socializing, being present, and networking, is part of the job. I avoided and found social media, a major social drain for me before, now I have to maintain and keep up on sites I have been spending years either avoiding, or checking minimaly, to now have to try and keep up a regular presence.

On my own time I am an introvert, and have had to be social, even when all I want to do is avoid that there is an outside world that exists. Before becomeing an SP, I was happy to brag the silence of my phone, now in just a week there are so many contacts, I need to search people to find them, otherwise I could get lost in the scrolling.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I’m not interested in 30, 60 mins options anymore. Maybe I’m getting older (merb doesn’t like women that aren’t fresh out of high school)* but I don’t have the energy for those.

Like you Luna, I don’t live in my incall so I have to physically get there. I share it with other people so I have to set the space and mood. It’s a lot just to host for 30 mins.

It’s also not pleasant to be with someone for such a short period, I feel rushed. “I can’t talk too much or he will feel robbed”

I’ve removed all options under 90 mins including massages, I feel a lot lighter and excited about the upcoming dates

I'm totally fine with hourly sessions personally, but otherwise I'm starting to feel the same way as you. I've been considering removing my HH and 45 minute options because I'm nervous about the same things you are mentioning, every time. I have seen some lovely gentlemen who booked me for HH and 45 minute sessions so please don't get me wrong. But how I feel has changed, when I had lower rates & received from home, and when I worked at a spa, the expectations seemed much lower.

I think when people book a certain amount of time they have to understand what they are going out of it. If you book a HH yes you will be rushed, it's a quickie. Unless I have schedule constraints I am not what people here call a ''clock watcher''.. But I'm much more likely to spend a little bit of extra time with someone if they book over an hour. Otherwise if you are booking a half hour, it's a half hour. Same thing with 45 minutes it's not a way to get a full hour and pay less..