Coronavirus

[The Nature Boy]

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/04/19/piers-morgan-advice-for-trump-rs-full-stelter-vpx.cnn

Very interesting interview. Piers Morgan is right on target.

on that note I’m utterly perplexed as to why Biden to date hasn’t had a single “socially distanced” press conference in the same fashion as Trump and Cuomo have been havin @ it? He’s prob scared people will criticize him for having a press briefing. Not much of a concept of a “Shadow Government” in USA. He better do something to get some music out there so far he’s been riding on luck and not much of a campaign

 

[EagerBeaver]

IMHO the majority of bankruptcies from the coronavirus will be from the small business owners and the non essential workers who have been without income through This whole thing.

As part of the stimulus deal, small business owners got a loan from the federal government that converts to a grant (if conditions are obeyed) that will carry most small businesses through the end of June. After that if it is not back to business as usual, they/we are all in trouble.

 

[IamNY]

Yes, but as with most government free money stimulus it goes to the wrong people and the people that should be receiving it get fucked.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...s-brokerages&usg=AOvVaw1T4HuMy9LM_5eUe4izt2bG

 

[EagerBeaver]

Over 41,000 Now Dead in USA

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/health/coronavirus-us-maps-and-cases/

 

[ShyMan]

ShyMan if you have a JD you should know this........

EB. You are not entirely correct. I know people who are independent contractors who have no health insurance because they cannot afford to pay the premiums, even through Obama Care. I have a buddy who works multiple jobs as an independent contractor--and drives Uber now and then--who does not buy health insurance for him and his family because the premium is too expensive; he called around to find the lowest prices for pharmaceutical medicines his wife and children needed during last flu season and he paid out of pocket. He does not qualify for medicare because he makes "too much" money.

I don't know the statistics but I understand there are millions of Americans who have no health insurance for one reason or another.

 

[EagerBeaver]

The prior posts implied that the poor would be driven into bankruptcy. The poor have Medicare. Independent Contractors have the option of Obamacare. It's true that it is not cheap. But many have it and the poorer ones who qualify, have Medicare.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Just out of curiosity Doc Holliday, I presume you want to ban all inbound travelers from Europe to Canada, also? Most countries in Europe, particularly Western Europe, have numbers worse than the U.S. If so, I do wonder what happens to Air Canada.

For the time being, yes! But Europeans are testing & social distancing so they'll get out of this thing before the US will. Trump is now encouraging some states to re-open now & you already have anti-distancing/closings demonstrations going on in some states. Demonstrators are backed by far right-wing money and i have a feeling that they'll eventually get their way, especially with Trump backing them. Some Florida beaches were re-opened yesterday. And testing in the United States still sucks & until testing there is greatly expanded it'll continue to be a catastrophe & the body count will continue piling up!

Right now i can't even cross into Quebec! You think i'd want Americans to cross into Canada right now?? So until they stop fucking things up & dramatically reduce the number of infections there's no way i'd re-open the border!

 

[EagerBeaver]

Exactly! The airlines, cruise lines, hotels & the millionaires shouldn't be getting a fucking penny!

And none of these businesses are getting a penny on the small business loan program. It's for small businesses.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/19/mnu...-on-second-round-of-small-business-loans.html

The real problem is that the government is just printing and giving away money and the resulting debt is not sustainable. This has already been discussed ad nauseam.

 

[Man911]

And none of these businesses are getting a penny on the small business loan program. It's for small businesses.

Sure, it not enough for them. Big company Will get more money.
They don't need loan program. If They want money or something else they call directly the Prime minister.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Apparently, and this morning is the first time I read about, it's true that some businesses have claimed loan monies that they are not entitled to, including Shake Shack, which is giving the money back:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/business/shake-shack-ppp-loan-sba/index.html

The way the program works is that you are supposed to apply through banks. It is not clear to me why Shake Shack or these other companies are filing loan applications or why the banks would be processing them in the first place.

 

[jalimon]

Love this pic !

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/ass...nter-protest-coronavirus-0419-exlarge-169.jpg

 

[ShyMan]

^^^^^^

These protesters could provide us with early indications of what could happen as society opens later, hopefully in stages. If these protesters get sick in the next two weeks, we will get some confirmation of what our level-headed leaders have been warning against and projecting.

Japan's sex industry could also serve as a useful example.

A Hong Kong news outlet reported on 20 April 2020 (local time):

https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/trav...industry-stays-open-amid-pandemic-workers-and

"In Tokyo, the adult entertainment industry is very much built around immediate, face-to-face convenience. Stressed salarymen can pop into a hostess club to chat with a young woman – for a fee – or rent a 40-minute booth in a pinsaro, or oral sex bar, for around 6,000 yen (US$55)."

["In Japan, oral sex is not considered prostitution."]

"Unlike other countries where stricter measures have been enforced, the Japanese government has requested, not told, many businesses to close. This has left sex workers and adult-industry business owners in a “grey zone”: do they stay open and try to maintain clients while risking their health? Or shut entirely and face losses?"

“We’ve been making sure patrons wash and sanitise their hands and clothes before entering the venue,” says Britney Jane, an American in her 20s who has lived in Japan for five years and works at an S&M club in Osaka."

"Yu, 27, from Tokyo, has a friend working at a pinsaro in the city. Most pinsaro comprise a single open room with sectioned-off booths, where clients are serviced by a rotating roster of hosts. Yu says that clients are given nothing more than a wet towelette with which to clean their genitals before the service starts."

“My friend told me she is trying to cut her days back,” she says. “She’s in the upper echelon of girls in the bar, so she has regular clients and the freedom to do that.”

"Some of the newer girls, or girls who moved to Tokyo to make money, aren’t so lucky and have little choice in terms of who they serve."

“Many of those girls who move to Tokyo from elsewhere live in a flat provided by the owner of the bar, which means they do not have a lot of autonomy,” Yu says, adding that their bosses want these more vulnerable girls to work as much as possible."

 

[The Nature Boy]

These protesters need the fuckin hose, preferably with antiseptic spray shooting out. Btw, having a tough time trying to understand how the second amendment comes into all of this? Please explain someone? :noidea:

 

[EagerBeaver]

Oil prices crash below $0 a barrel!!!!! Record low!!! Due to Coronavirus!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html

 

[jalimon]

Just saw a protester against confinement in the US with a sign that read "End the virus not the economy".

I am flabbergasted by that. That dude who wrote that simply has no brain. How in hell can you think like that?

Science is not able to end the virus at the moment. Is that too difficult to understand?

 

[Reppy]

Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid or the ignorant.

All the jokes about certain segment of the American population were all jokes...until now, and you realize that it all turned out to be serious issues...not a laughing matter anymore :/

 

[Batista Mason]

Japan is offering financial aid to sex workers.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/19/asia/japan-sex-workers-coronavirus-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[The Nature Boy]

What the fuck is up with the guns???? Really, I don’t get it. How is this tied to the virus? I can see the argument that social distancing and other mitigation efforts impinge on civil liberties, but wtf is up with people wearin commando gear and semi’s?

 

[jalimon]

Natureboy you are not American and it shows.

It's really simple all attempts of removing any kind of freedom to Americans is also an attempts against the second amendment. That is how fucked up they are.

 

[donbusch]

A study led by one of China’s top scientist Prof. Li Lanjuan indicates that the coronavirus strain infecting New York & many parts of Europe is a lot deadlier than the dominant strain commonly found in other parts of the US like Washington state. This could help explain the varying death rates across different regions.

If true, this is bad news as the previous consensus among many scientists was that mutations of the coronavirus were likely to be inconsequential.

More than 10,000 strains of the coronavirus have been sequenced by scientists around the world using a standard method but Prof. Li Lanjuan used a more costly & timing consuming method known as ultra-deep sequencing that highlighted the difference.

Her paper’s currently in preprint meaning not peer reviewed yet so let’s see if these results can be replicated by other scientists.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci...tions-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study