I’m not reading the fucking articles cause I know how it spreads, and I’m asking you, do you Bizarro Cloudy?
Coronavirus
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I thought Montreal instituted weeks ago what London (England) will begin doing Monday (20 April 2020) -- disallowing passengers from boarding buses in the front.
AFP/ga reported:
"LONDON: London's transport authorities on Friday (Apr 18) announced new measures to protect bus drivers from coronavirus, as colleagues held a minute's silence for 20 who have already died.
Mayor Sadiq Khan, whose father was a bus driver, led tributes to the victims as authorities said passengers would no longer be able to use the front door near the driver.
"It breaks my heart that 20 London bus workers have lost their lives to #COVID19. It could easily have been my dad and his friends," Khan wrote on Twitter.
The seats at the front of buses closest to the driver have been roped off and drivers sit behind a clear protective screen.
In the new measure to be introduced from Monday, the front doors will now be kept shut with passengers asked to get on and off using the middle doors.
The RMT union reported that one bus operator in south-west England responded to its demands for more protection by fitting "what can best be described as a shower curtain" to the driver's cab.
Drivers complained that "the curtain is so flimsy members of the public have been pulling it to one side in order to speak to the driver" -- which risks greater contact with passengers.
Khan is also lobbying the British government to advise people to wear face masks on public transport, to try to stem the spread of coronavirus.
Ministers have expressed scepticism about the idea in the past, but say the issue is under review."
AFP/ga reported:
"LONDON: London's transport authorities on Friday (Apr 18) announced new measures to protect bus drivers from coronavirus, as colleagues held a minute's silence for 20 who have already died.
Mayor Sadiq Khan, whose father was a bus driver, led tributes to the victims as authorities said passengers would no longer be able to use the front door near the driver.
"It breaks my heart that 20 London bus workers have lost their lives to #COVID19. It could easily have been my dad and his friends," Khan wrote on Twitter.
The seats at the front of buses closest to the driver have been roped off and drivers sit behind a clear protective screen.
In the new measure to be introduced from Monday, the front doors will now be kept shut with passengers asked to get on and off using the middle doors.
The RMT union reported that one bus operator in south-west England responded to its demands for more protection by fitting "what can best be described as a shower curtain" to the driver's cab.
Drivers complained that "the curtain is so flimsy members of the public have been pulling it to one side in order to speak to the driver" -- which risks greater contact with passengers.
Khan is also lobbying the British government to advise people to wear face masks on public transport, to try to stem the spread of coronavirus.
Ministers have expressed scepticism about the idea in the past, but say the issue is under review."
I was wasting some time yesterday and saw these 2 videos that I recommend if you have time over the weekend.
ABC News: How covid-19 came to be and dealt with in the beginning at the epicenter Wuhan. We read the news from western media but probably don't know a whole lot about the situation in China. This video was an eye opener for me in some ways, and answered some of my questions. It's a long video, so watch it at 1.75-2x speed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrqXJYf1SU
Japanese medical experts simulate droplets from sneezing and talking to each other:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2azcn7MqOU
ABC News: How covid-19 came to be and dealt with in the beginning at the epicenter Wuhan. We read the news from western media but probably don't know a whole lot about the situation in China. This video was an eye opener for me in some ways, and answered some of my questions. It's a long video, so watch it at 1.75-2x speed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrqXJYf1SU
Japanese medical experts simulate droplets from sneezing and talking to each other:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2azcn7MqOU
Nopes! In this extremely boring pandemic confined era this expression does not exist anymore! You were educating yourself while not drinking. 2 exploit in itself!
Everything you just wrote is wrong.
Stop reading CTV news and thinking it is the same as a peer reviewed journal.
False equivalency, the means of transmission are completely different.
With today's technology you would think they will manage one... That being said the lockdown can't go on for... hell ... even a year is too much. They said it themselves. Life has to start again, be it June, July or something at the fartest. We can still watch out and be carefull but the whole panic mode of currently can't last forever. As you say living decades locked up... no thanks.
June? Are you fucking kidding me??? There's not a chance in hell that the border opens up in 2020 and if our government succumbs to the pressure and re-opens it too soon than I'M NOT VOTING LIBERAL AGAIN FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!!!
I have been in semi isolation since I returned Mar.19. Main reason is that nothing is open. If a pub was open with restrictions I would probably have a pint at night and a game of pool.
My daughter works at a PetroCanada dep, sees about 350 customers during her shift, from what she knows no one at a PetroCan has caught the virus.
Canada stats. Population 36,000,000, tested 528,000, cases 33,000, deaths 1,500 ( numbers rounded ).
People social distancing, feeling safe outside in lineups standing on their marks 2 meters apart while the wind is blowing 20 KPM ( find it very odd that wind direction and speed is never mentioned, perhaps necause the media never told anyone ). I was in a Costco lineup and all stsnding in their safe zones, wind was strong that day and mentuoned the wind to a person beside me, ssying that if I sneezed her plus the next 10 people would get the vapors, she looked like a deer caught in headlights, you could see fear in her face, no longer in her safe space.
In the IGA by my place, people lined up outside, wash hands before you get the sanitized cart, see people stocking the shelves, no masks or gloves, see people picking up produce then putting it back, put my items on the conveyor belt the cashier touches the items to scan them but will not touch my airmiles card? Weird.
Only essential stores allowed to be open but they allow McD, Tims etc plus restaurant food delivery to be open, sorry but they are a convenience not essential. Driving around Drummondville getting my essential McD coffee and the streets are busy like normal. Bicyclists are complaining about not going out not rezlizing how many people they will pass while breathing heavy ( moistly )
My points above are to show we are really not self isolating properly.
Personally I am for herd immunity, we have hindsight now thst shows the group most effected, keep them isolated and continue to financially support. The businesses and employees thst wsnt to work let them, no issues, if you want to stay at home fine, no issue either. Keeping us isolated will not make this go away, a cure will never be found, a vaccine will not stop the deaths ( flu has a vaccine and 500,000 die every year ). Once they decide to let us out no one will have antibodies and we will be back at square one.
And yes I know about the curve flattening but too mzny reports of empty ICU units ( friends daughter is a nurse snd her ICU unit is mostly empty ).
Right now Canada's economy is like the Titanic, five minutes after it struck the iceberg.* The passengers think that nothing much is wrong. The officers know that the ship is about to sink, and there aren’t enough lifeboats for everybody.
Our current standard of living, our appearance of economic normalcy, is being maintained by unsustainable debt. Governments cannot just send money to people indefinitely without inducing inflation. Do it at the current rate for a couple of months, and the result will be hyperinflation.
The enforced lockdowns of so many businesses has destroyed income. The billions in relief will destroy wealth. If you have guaranteed investment certificates, which are the safest financial instruments to own, they will soon lose large percentages of their value.* The equity markets will plunge, and even the housing market will implode because there won’t be enough solvent consumers to buy houses.
Take into account how many commit suicide due to bankruptcies and the amount of spousal abuse plus the second wave when no one has an immune system build up.
Sweden has not done a total shutdown, no groups of 50 or more and most all is open. They have the same problem as Quebec as 30% of their deaths are from senior homes. They prefer a few deaths over total bankruptcy, the total bankruptcy would bring up the death rate over time. Denmark and Norway are planning to follow Sweden last I heard. Leagualt also plans to open up soon, good for him, another plus in my books.
I am on the Transmountain pipeline, spring break now and back to work mid May ( late due to shitty spring ).
Dogs are happy as fuck I am back as they get walked about 5 hrs a day with nothing else to do.
There, my 5 week coronavirus post.
My daughter works at a PetroCanada dep, sees about 350 customers during her shift, from what she knows no one at a PetroCan has caught the virus.
Canada stats. Population 36,000,000, tested 528,000, cases 33,000, deaths 1,500 ( numbers rounded ).
People social distancing, feeling safe outside in lineups standing on their marks 2 meters apart while the wind is blowing 20 KPM ( find it very odd that wind direction and speed is never mentioned, perhaps necause the media never told anyone ). I was in a Costco lineup and all stsnding in their safe zones, wind was strong that day and mentuoned the wind to a person beside me, ssying that if I sneezed her plus the next 10 people would get the vapors, she looked like a deer caught in headlights, you could see fear in her face, no longer in her safe space.
In the IGA by my place, people lined up outside, wash hands before you get the sanitized cart, see people stocking the shelves, no masks or gloves, see people picking up produce then putting it back, put my items on the conveyor belt the cashier touches the items to scan them but will not touch my airmiles card? Weird.
Only essential stores allowed to be open but they allow McD, Tims etc plus restaurant food delivery to be open, sorry but they are a convenience not essential. Driving around Drummondville getting my essential McD coffee and the streets are busy like normal. Bicyclists are complaining about not going out not rezlizing how many people they will pass while breathing heavy ( moistly )
My points above are to show we are really not self isolating properly.
Personally I am for herd immunity, we have hindsight now thst shows the group most effected, keep them isolated and continue to financially support. The businesses and employees thst wsnt to work let them, no issues, if you want to stay at home fine, no issue either. Keeping us isolated will not make this go away, a cure will never be found, a vaccine will not stop the deaths ( flu has a vaccine and 500,000 die every year ). Once they decide to let us out no one will have antibodies and we will be back at square one.
And yes I know about the curve flattening but too mzny reports of empty ICU units ( friends daughter is a nurse snd her ICU unit is mostly empty ).
Right now Canada's economy is like the Titanic, five minutes after it struck the iceberg.* The passengers think that nothing much is wrong. The officers know that the ship is about to sink, and there aren’t enough lifeboats for everybody.
Our current standard of living, our appearance of economic normalcy, is being maintained by unsustainable debt. Governments cannot just send money to people indefinitely without inducing inflation. Do it at the current rate for a couple of months, and the result will be hyperinflation.
The enforced lockdowns of so many businesses has destroyed income. The billions in relief will destroy wealth. If you have guaranteed investment certificates, which are the safest financial instruments to own, they will soon lose large percentages of their value.* The equity markets will plunge, and even the housing market will implode because there won’t be enough solvent consumers to buy houses.
Take into account how many commit suicide due to bankruptcies and the amount of spousal abuse plus the second wave when no one has an immune system build up.
Sweden has not done a total shutdown, no groups of 50 or more and most all is open. They have the same problem as Quebec as 30% of their deaths are from senior homes. They prefer a few deaths over total bankruptcy, the total bankruptcy would bring up the death rate over time. Denmark and Norway are planning to follow Sweden last I heard. Leagualt also plans to open up soon, good for him, another plus in my books.
I am on the Transmountain pipeline, spring break now and back to work mid May ( late due to shitty spring ).
Dogs are happy as fuck I am back as they get walked about 5 hrs a day with nothing else to do.
There, my 5 week coronavirus post.
I see you rounded it out by adding a 0.....you meant 1,500 not 15,000 deaths.
dude!! Again,[FONT="]
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU GETTING YOUR #’s from!?!?![/FONT]
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[FONT="]Italy-175,925 confirmed cases, 23,227 deaths?[/FONT]
[FONT="]Spain-194,944 confirmed cases, 20,639 deaths?[/FONT]
[FONT="]USA- 740,746 confirmed cases, 39,158 deaths?
UK- 120,067 confirmed cases, 16,060 deaths?
like I had to re read, the date your post was mentioned to see if it was an old post I was reading by accident?
like is it me? Did I read and interpret this post incorrectly are are you with the understanding still that Europe is still where all the cases are[/FONT]
Good to read you back STN 
The problem with this virus is full free herd immunity is not an option as we do not know if we are immune. South-Korea is studying 200 cases of re-infected people (who tested positive after being cured). China is also investigating same thing but who can trust anything with them.
And I completely agree with you we may live another depression era. Which could take a few years to go back to our normal way of living. The important thing is being alive. Dead would be harder to go back to normalcy.
South-Soudan has 12 million population. They have 4 ventilators in the whole country. Maybe early on we should have closed that shit-whole country, spray the virus over them and study how herd immunity works with this new virus?
The problem with this virus is full free herd immunity is not an option as we do not know if we are immune. South-Korea is studying 200 cases of re-infected people (who tested positive after being cured). China is also investigating same thing but who can trust anything with them.
And I completely agree with you we may live another depression era. Which could take a few years to go back to our normal way of living. The important thing is being alive. Dead would be harder to go back to normalcy.
South-Soudan has 12 million population. They have 4 ventilators in the whole country. Maybe early on we should have closed that shit-whole country, spray the virus over them and study how herd immunity works with this new virus?
Whaaaaaaaaaaa?????
Dude Italy and Spain combined isn’t even @ half of total # of cases as USA and their deaths are maybe a little higher than USA?
it me or aren’t flights from Europe including Ireland and UK closed to USA?
Ok, I’m not gonna waste more time on your posts. Cause @ this point with all the nonsense your posting it seems deliberate. Gonna spend time doing something more productive and right now that includes dropping a likely 1kg deuce into the old American Standard in the loo
TNB what Patron's trying to say is that European countries have the worst death rate per ratio of population. And that is correct. Worst country is actually Belgium. I knew they should have closed their french frie shop! Italy and Spain have 4 times more death per million then USA. But they were the first one hit by this.
And very important the USA may has not seen the worst just yet. So comparison right now should be taken with a grain of salt and wait on a little bit.
And very important the USA may has not seen the worst just yet. So comparison right now should be taken with a grain of salt and wait on a little bit.
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