Coronavirus

[EagerBeaver]

Great Waloo:

The EU is going about it all wrong. Trump is not in charge of Covid 19 regulation, the Governors of the individual States are. They should restrict travel from the States that deserve it. For example Connecticut, where I live, we are a responsible State and whereas we were badly hit at the beginning of the pandemic, now we have declining cases despite massive testing. I am getting tested at one of the many drive through Covid testing stations myself on Saturday (mandatory due to a minor medical procedure I am having on June 29). So hopefully I continue our trend here.

On the other hand those red necks in Alabama and Florida should have their non-evolved Neanderthal asses banned by the EU. They have behaved like nothing is wrong. The Governor of Florida is an idiot and he should be treated like one.

 

[IamNY]

EB,

Agree with your comments above. I'm from NY and like yourself, played by the rules set out by my state to significantly reduce our cases and hospitalizations. Managing travel within our borders is one thing, I think it would be a huge challenge for other countries to pick and choose which states are permitted to travel abroad. Instead they paint us with a broad brush to include the responsible states with the ones with horrible governors that just don't get it. I wasn't a fan governor Cuomo, but I am now, his leadership and guts have really changed that opinion with the way he took care of NY during this crisis.

 

[sene5hos]

On the other hand those red necks in Alabama and Florida should have their non-evolved Neanderthal asses banned by the EU. They have behaved like nothing is wrong. The Governor of Florida is an idiot and he should be treated like one.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/politics/donald-trump-ron-desantis-florida/index.html

Trump and Florida's DeSantis talk reopening plans and share mutual congratulations.

IT WAS 2020/04/28

It's too late….. (yesterday 37,000 new cases in USA).

Trump and DeSantis, among the worst duets.
They dance well together.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Maine's 14 day quarantine rule is still in effect, the hotel told me, but If we can get Covid tested within 72 hours prior to our trip and produce a negative test result, we will be allowed to roam freely outside the hotel without the cops being called. I am told Maine may revisit the rule before August as the Maine hotel industry is applying maximum pressure for rescission of the quarantine rule. Stay tuned. I may have to have a second Covid Test beyond the one I am getting this weekend.

 

[RobertNYC]

Back to an earlier point. I think the chance of my Sept or Oct trip to Montreal is pegged about 0% right now based on latest US data and public sentiment about resurgence. No way they’re opening border in next 2-3 months based on latest US data, especially while other countries put the US in quarantine.

 

[RobertNYC]

EB, I always appreciate your opinions and analysis. But we are a country of people who are mobile, and many have 2nd homes in states like FL. It’s not practical for a country to determine entry based on a state of residence, which can be easily manipulated.

 

[sene5hos]

Yes Robert, I don't think your chances of coming to Montreal are 0%, but as long as it doesn't improve in USA, forget it.
I hope the borders will remain closed for a long time.

It's clear Robert that I have a lot of sympathy for you.

To say that before I thought of going there for 6 months a year, but now never, never.
Coming to Montreal, I think it would be possible by plane. With planes equipped with Hepa filters, the wearing of the mandatory mask, as well as compliance with Canadian instructions, and the obligation of a quarantine of 14 days.

 

[IamNY]

RobertNYC you may be correct that there’s a zero chance of crossing the border into Canada anytime soon. But, I would point out that NY was looking really bad only 30 days ago and now we are the poster child of success. If the rest of the governors get their shit together it’s quite possible they can turn it around.

 

[gll]

yup, with the eu closing its gates to the us, canada is not going to open the border to the us anytime soon. as a nyer, i want a trudeau -cuomo submit where they decide to let nyers into canada- would be a poke in the eye for trump. of course, trump would counter by not letting us back into the us. maybe not a bad thing, i wouldnt mind riding out this pandemic in montreal.

 

[IamNY]

Read this a little while ago and thought it was interesting:

Quebec Isn't Going To Share Daily COVID-19 Numbers Anymore

Dominique Anglade called the decision "incomprehensible."

www.mtlblog.com

 

[EagerBeaver]

i want a trudeau -cuomo submit where they decide to let nyers into canada-

How about the CT and NJ governors also being invited to the summit you are proposing? Since they have acted in unison with Cuomo on Coronvirus rules and making them uniform in the Tristate area, which was initially the hardest hit area in the USA, but is now showing the most improvement. I think you need to show Ned Lamont some love.

 

[IamNY]

We would first have to determine if your NY Tough. (slogan our governor says all the time)

 

[EagerBeaver]

We would first have to determine if your NY Tough. (slogan our governor says all the time)

When you listen to Lamont he doesn't sound like he can pass that definition, but I have to say most of his decisions have been pretty good and our State's numbers look pretty good. I think he and Cuomo get along well, talk on a regular basis and have healthy exchanges of ideas. One sore point for Lamont is the fast reopening of the CT casinos, which he had no legal power to stop since they are sovereign nations that can do whatever the hell they please. While Lamont bitched and moaned endlessly in the local medias and urged CT residents to refrain from going to the Casinos (a call I have heeded- the only thing I miss is the food there), some have seen his message as hypocritical because of the colossal amount of money the State of CT gets from the casinos (25% of their revenue). That money is MUCH NEEDED at this time so the issue of Lamont's criticism of the quick reopening was somewhat awkwardly received.

 

[gll]

How about the CT and NJ governors also being invited to the summit you are proposing? Since they have acted in unison with Cuomo on Coronvirus rules and making them uniform in the Tristate area, which was initially the hardest hit area in the USA, but is now showing the most improvement. I think you need to show Ned Lamont some love.

sorry i was being selfish

 

[sene5hos]

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1715123/texas-deconfinement-reouverture-economie-coronavirus-covid-19-augmentation-cas

Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced on Thursday new measures to curb and manage the epidemic in his state, including putting the next steps to reopening businesses on ice.

Texas was one of the first states to revive economic activity after the nationwide containment was imposed.
A decision that the Democrats also blame the Republican governor, whose state is experiencing a marked upsurge in COVID-19.

If Republican governors start to think human. OUACH Trump.

 

[The Nature Boy]

That quarantine is the stupidest f’ing Thing. Even Cuomo couldn’t properly explain it and just continued on with his comical little sparring with his brother. I’ll still take Andrew over the knitwitt who is running Texas, now he decides to tell people to stay home. Who will drink @ the bars and live music venues in Austin and Houston?

Desantis in Florida just got dropped on his head many, many times

 

[minutemenX]

...Tristate area, which was initially the hardest hit area in the USA, but is now showing the most improvement.

There is an obvious connection of course. In order to do better you should go through the worst first… i.e. build a substantial layer of immune people.

 

[The Nature Boy]

There is still not a substantial amount of immune people enough to account for the tristate’s success, it’s not a ton of immune people, which accounts for their low #’s

 

[minutemenX]

There is still not a substantial amount of immune people enough to account for the tristate’s success, it’s not a ton of immune people, which accounts for their low #’s

I am lazy to look for the exact reference, but I read that 20% of immune people slows spread dramatically because this 20% usually include the most mobile people. There is now data that 10 times more people show signs of the past infection than tested positive. Multiply positive tests in NYC by ten and you will have more than 20%

 

[The Nature Boy]

I don’t understand all those #’s u put up? If people in that tri state area of NY/NJ/CT stop wearing masks and start caring less about social distancing the #’s shouldn’t go up then?