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EB, I always appreciate your opinions and analysis. But we are a country of people who are mobile, and many have 2nd homes in states like FL. It’s not practical for a country to determine entry based on a state of residence, which can be easily manipulated.
 

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Yes Robert, I don't think your chances of coming to Montreal are 0%, but as long as it doesn't improve in USA, forget it.
I hope the borders will remain closed for a long time.

It's clear Robert that I have a lot of sympathy for you.

To say that before I thought of going there for 6 months a year, but now never, never.
Coming to Montreal, I think it would be possible by plane. With planes equipped with Hepa filters, the wearing of the mandatory mask, as well as compliance with Canadian instructions, and the obligation of a quarantine of 14 days.
 
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RobertNYC you may be correct that there’s a zero chance of crossing the border into Canada anytime soon. But, I would point out that NY was looking really bad only 30 days ago and now we are the poster child of success. If the rest of the governors get their shit together it’s quite possible they can turn it around.
 
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yup, with the eu closing its gates to the us, canada is not going to open the border to the us anytime soon. as a nyer, i want a trudeau -cuomo submit where they decide to let nyers into canada- would be a poke in the eye for trump. of course, trump would counter by not letting us back into the us. maybe not a bad thing, i wouldnt mind riding out this pandemic in montreal.
 
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i want a trudeau -cuomo submit where they decide to let nyers into canada-

How about the CT and NJ governors also being invited to the summit you are proposing? Since they have acted in unison with Cuomo on Coronvirus rules and making them uniform in the Tristate area, which was initially the hardest hit area in the USA, but is now showing the most improvement. I think you need to show Ned Lamont some love.
 
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We would first have to determine if your NY Tough. (slogan our governor says all the time)
 

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We would first have to determine if your NY Tough. (slogan our governor says all the time)

When you listen to Lamont he doesn't sound like he can pass that definition, but I have to say most of his decisions have been pretty good and our State's numbers look pretty good. I think he and Cuomo get along well, talk on a regular basis and have healthy exchanges of ideas. One sore point for Lamont is the fast reopening of the CT casinos, which he had no legal power to stop since they are sovereign nations that can do whatever the hell they please. While Lamont bitched and moaned endlessly in the local medias and urged CT residents to refrain from going to the Casinos (a call I have heeded- the only thing I miss is the food there), some have seen his message as hypocritical because of the colossal amount of money the State of CT gets from the casinos (25% of their revenue). That money is MUCH NEEDED at this time so the issue of Lamont's criticism of the quick reopening was somewhat awkwardly received.
 
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How about the CT and NJ governors also being invited to the summit you are proposing? Since they have acted in unison with Cuomo on Coronvirus rules and making them uniform in the Tristate area, which was initially the hardest hit area in the USA, but is now showing the most improvement. I think you need to show Ned Lamont some love.


sorry i was being selfish
 

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https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1715123/texas-deconfinement-reouverture-economie-coronavirus-covid-19-augmentation-cas

Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced on Thursday new measures to curb and manage the epidemic in his state, including putting the next steps to reopening businesses on ice.

Texas was one of the first states to revive economic activity after the nationwide containment was imposed.
A decision that the Democrats also blame the Republican governor, whose state is experiencing a marked upsurge in COVID-19.

If Republican governors start to think human. OUACH Trump.
 

The Nature Boy

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That quarantine is the stupidest f’ing Thing. Even Cuomo couldn’t properly explain it and just continued on with his comical little sparring with his brother. I’ll still take Andrew over the knitwitt who is running Texas, now he decides to tell people to stay home. Who will drink @ the bars and live music venues in Austin and Houston?

Desantis in Florida just got dropped on his head many, many times
 

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...Tristate area, which was initially the hardest hit area in the USA, but is now showing the most improvement.

There is an obvious connection of course. In order to do better you should go through the worst first… i.e. build a substantial layer of immune people.
 

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There is still not a substantial amount of immune people enough to account for the tristate’s success, it’s not a ton of immune people, which accounts for their low #’s
 

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There is still not a substantial amount of immune people enough to account for the tristate’s success, it’s not a ton of immune people, which accounts for their low #’s
I am lazy to look for the exact reference, but I read that 20% of immune people slows spread dramatically because this 20% usually include the most mobile people. There is now data that 10 times more people show signs of the past infection than tested positive. Multiply positive tests in NYC by ten and you will have more than 20%
 
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I don’t understand all those #’s u put up? If people in that tri state area of NY/NJ/CT stop wearing masks and start caring less about social distancing the #’s shouldn’t go up then?
 
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I noticed that we are almost the only ones who don't respect the government directives?
 

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I believe that 38-40% of the deaths in the tri state area were senior citizens in nursing homes and they really didn’t need to die that way. Nursing home patients that tested Positive for Covid 19 were sent back from The hospitals to their nursing homes and the nursing homes just weren’t prepared to isolate them correctly. Then the disease spread like crazy.
 

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I just had the Covid Test done at a drive through Covid Specimen Collection Station in CT. Apparently they are no longer doing the deep nasopharyngeal swab. The Covid technician told me the new test was easy and "I was in luck." She took a cotton swab and stuck it into each nostril about a half inch and then swirled it around the walls of the nostrils as if she was mixing a drink. Kind of tickled actually. Not painful and not even uncomfortable. Ticklish. I will get results tomorrow. This is a mandatory test as I am having a minor medical procedure done on Monday.
 
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Can you imagine how great it would be if a daily dose of cannibis was the cure by preventing entry of the virus.

Therapeutics are coming along nicely, but there is obviously a lot if risk once someone gets the virus, and vaccines are still a ways off, obviously.

The goddamn hilarity that would ensue if daily cannabis saved the world and the police/military had to guard and protect the valuable marijuana and hemp crops that were put into emergency production would be priceless. Trump and Fauci smoking pot during the press conference as encouragement while Pence looks on and deeply frowns would be the kick-off.



i (unknowingly) have been part of the phase 3 trials for this treatment. will let you know how it works out.
 
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