I'm reading The Great Influenza by John M. Barry. A book that goes into incredible detail regarding the Spanish flu pandemic in the early 1900's. What I've found interesting is that although the pandemic was a hundred years ago many of the same tactics to contain the disease are exactly what we are doing today, a hundred years later. The medicine and treatments have evolved, but masks, social distancing, isolating, quarantine, etc. haven't changed at all. It was written in 2005 and it's incredibly detailed. What I also found interesting is that now that I am currently living through a pandemic I can really relate to all the stories. Highly recommended.
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Nature Boy,
Do you really think that things would be all the much different? Your post assumes that everyone is paying attention, when in reality the exact opposite is true. There were going to be people that were not going to listen no matter who their leader was. It's true that none of the things Trump did helped matters, but had someone else been in charge there still would have been that huge pool party in the Ozarks and countless other stupidities. Furthermore we are seeing that Trump had very little influence over what each State chose to do. However, as of right now, almost nobody in the USA has been successful in fully containing the virus despite countless different approaches.
Do you really think that things would be all the much different? Your post assumes that everyone is paying attention, when in reality the exact opposite is true. There were going to be people that were not going to listen no matter who their leader was. It's true that none of the things Trump did helped matters, but had someone else been in charge there still would have been that huge pool party in the Ozarks and countless other stupidities. Furthermore we are seeing that Trump had very little influence over what each State chose to do. However, as of right now, almost nobody in the USA has been successful in fully containing the virus despite countless different approaches.
I am reading The Andromeda Strain by Michael Crichton. Although it's a novel and was a major national bestseller that launched Crichton's highly successful career when published in 1970, it is more topical now than when it was published and blends scientific fact with fiction. The same kinds of mistakes that were made in containing an alien microorganism from a meteor that caused the pandemic in that book are now being made 50 years later. I read the book 30 years ago and now that I am reading it again, I think its even more pertinent and topical now than it was in 1970.
She was tested a out a month ago for a new job she got.
Some of you may have forgotten about flattening the curve and what it is meant to do, drag this out. From what I have been reading is if you are meant to get this virus you will get it be it today or in two months, it makes sense a spike will happen once things open up but as long as hospitals are not overrun it should make no difference ( unless you expect to stay indoors forever )
Read about the Florida numbers last night...WOW.
Why is Como not taking any heat from this? He really blew a few of his calls, caused a lot of deaths.
Read about the Florida numbers last night...WOW.
Why is Como not taking any heat from this? He really blew a few of his calls, caused a lot of deaths.
I agree I don’t think it would be much different with any President.
Day to day activities are run by the governors and it seems no two states can agree on anything.
Unfortunately it is a giant shit show which is not unique just to the United States.
Brazil, Sweden, the UK are not dealing with it much better to name a few. It took Boris a bout with reality to change his mind that it is no worse than the common flu and it won’t just disappear.
All politicians have their own greed and ambition in the forefront and that is why I think they are all scum and the trick is always to choose between who is going to screw you less.
Day to day activities are run by the governors and it seems no two states can agree on anything.
Unfortunately it is a giant shit show which is not unique just to the United States.
Brazil, Sweden, the UK are not dealing with it much better to name a few. It took Boris a bout with reality to change his mind that it is no worse than the common flu and it won’t just disappear.
All politicians have their own greed and ambition in the forefront and that is why I think they are all scum and the trick is always to choose between who is going to screw you less.
I suggest not having a mass gathering inside with thousands of people in Tulsa for starters
I suppose this applies to the mass gatherings on UK beaches recently with young hooligans beating the crap out of each other also.
Not much distancing or mask wearing was going on in the news video that I saw yesterday.
I am not disagreeing with you just pointing out that this whole shit show is not unique to the US or just Trump supporters.
Whether you are lawfully protesting or going to a political rally the first amendment is clear whether it’s during a pandemic or not:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
No one is telling you not to have a rally but do it safely. And for sure the media shoulda given all the BLM more shit for these protests being super spreader events But do not compare a protest out of out rage from a guy literally getting lynched to a planned deliberate planned political rally, dude, lol, wtf?? And don’t use the 1st amendment as justification
Wasn’t necessarily comparing the two, just pointing out that they are both perfectly within their rights to do so. The first amendment gives them that right. Common sense is something else and it’s not covered under the first amendment.
I guess you meant not anymore there isn’t.
When you almost die yourself it puts things into perspective.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-protocols/index.html
Dear Donald begins to take the coronavirus seriously. It's no longer just a simple flu virus, isn't it Mr. Trump?
If he had to catch Covid-19, his election campaign would fall.
Mr. Biden stay in your basement. You don't have to do rallies.
Trump is capable of doing it, and putting himself in the trouble.
Dear Donald begins to take the coronavirus seriously. It's no longer just a simple flu virus, isn't it Mr. Trump?
If he had to catch Covid-19, his election campaign would fall.
Mr. Biden stay in your basement. You don't have to do rallies.
Trump is capable of doing it, and putting himself in the trouble.
No fradi, there never was a denial! There was a debate about how to deal with it! What’s happening in the states is straight up denial!
In the states there is less of a debate and more of politicization about the virus that you don’t see anywhere other than Brazil. I don’t think the media is responsible for it like patron says, I don’t think they help, but certainly not responsible.
Wear a f’ing mask
Tell people “hey, we r still in 1st wave, still
Gotta be cautious and practice common sense”
There’s some starters of what I’d suggest. Saying your f’ed if you do and F’ed if you don’t is a coppin out. Someone has to be the asshole, DJT doesn’t wanna do it. @ least in Texas is man enough to admit he may have done shit wrong and I get the economic repercussions, but you see what happens when u gotta admit adults to a children’s hospital in Houston. Desantis in Florida is another example of denial following trumps lead
Correct, that's why the looting and the tearing down of statues during a pandemic is illegal.
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Stupidity is not restricted to the US.
This is something none of the worlds leaders have faced before and none were really prepared for it, how do you prepare for something like this.
Lets not forget that for a while we were the New York of Canada, our own health minister or doctor Oruda has made some pretty classic bungles of his own like telling everyone that wearing masks is not important and is of little value.
I don’t think he is the right person for the job his ego gets in the way like many other politicians.
This is something none of the worlds leaders have faced before and none were really prepared for it, how do you prepare for something like this.
Lets not forget that for a while we were the New York of Canada, our own health minister or doctor Oruda has made some pretty classic bungles of his own like telling everyone that wearing masks is not important and is of little value.
I don’t think he is the right person for the job his ego gets in the way like many other politicians.
To date in Florida = 140,000 confirmed cases with 3,400 deaths. Which gives 2.4%. And only during this weekend in Florida, 18,500 new cases.
The United States is in a very bad situation.
Governor DeSantis finds it less funny than in April when with Trump, they hit each other on the shoulder, saying "We did a good job"
The United States is in a very bad situation.
Governor DeSantis finds it less funny than in April when with Trump, they hit each other on the shoulder, saying "We did a good job"
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