Coronavirus

[Fradi]

EB
You keep holding up the sensational six as an example.
I am glad they have tremendously improved but overall they are anything but sensational in fact 4 of your sensational list have the worst death rate in the whole US.
Yes it happened in the beginning but even Florida hasn’t gotten close to New Jersey and New Yorks death rate ( death rate per 100,000 population) in fact Quebec which is hovering around 68 is close to Florida’s death rate.

U.S. COVID death rate by state 2023| Statista

As of March 2023, Arizona had the highest COVID death rate in the U.S., with 455 deaths per 100,000 population. Hawaii had the lowest death rate.

www.statista.com

 

[EagerBeaver]

Make no mistake, no place got hit harder than NY, NJ and CT at the beginning of the pandemic, but no place has been better at controlling the virus since the first 2 months. It's because of good State level political leadership, a population responsive to that leadership, and tremendous medical care in all 3 states. It's not an exaggeration to say that NY, NJ and CT are the shining beacon States in the entire Western Hemisphere's Covid response. All States and Countries need to study and follow our lead. As Governor Cuomo said about the Tri State coordinated response, "history books will be talking about what we did for decades."

 

[Fradi]

EB,
Sorry but no. It is not time to follow states which have the worst record in the US.
It is great that you are so patriotic, but for once get real put aside your pride and face reality.
I wish it wasn’t so, half my family is in the US, but the US is leading the world in deaths, infections, it is a total cluster fuck what is still going on and now you have governors wanting to have 60,000 fans at a football game.
You have the Governor of New York undermining the Mayor every chance he gets. He had a huge hand in thousands of elderly dying in senior homes just like Quebec and Ontario had here.
You can try and spin this any way you want but all statistics all evidence points to exactly the opposite.

History books will be talking about it for years what a fuck up took place in the US during this pandemic, let’s hope they will also be talking about how the US came up with a vaccine that saved the world from more years and millions upon millions of deaths.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Would disagree with you Fradi,
Lots of guys talk about being able to run around and do whatever they want and that you will get the virus either way and that it won’t kill you. In NY, NJ, CT there is so little virus circulating people are enjoying a lot. And there’s little virus floating around. Not same case in other states. I couldn’t agree more with a lot of what Eb wrote.

 

[Fradi]

TNB,
I guess we are going to disagree then, which is fine.
Does the fact that for now things are better in these states bring back all the people that have died.
Quebec had infections down to 60-70 a day and several days in a row with O deaths just a month ago and now it has spiked.
This is not over yet it is not time for anybody to be patting themselves on the back especially not States that still overall have the worst record.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Sorry, lol didn’t mean to compare Canada in anyway to USA, lol when it comes to federal covid response, lol. Believe me. No comparison. But what I will say, where I agree with EB is that these states are examples where they did get it right.

 

[Fradi]

I don’t disagree on that count either, and I am glad they got it right and hope they keep on getting it right.
I just don’t believe in holding people up as shining examples when they still have the worst record.
Learn from it, yes by all means
My point is thousands of people have died does it matter to their loved ones that they died before or after they woke up and
figured out what to do.
I am not all that proud of our Health Minister Aruda either, there is a reason Quebec is the New York of Canada anyway we spin that it won’t change either, obviously some provinces did a better job than we did.
I just don’t have this patriotic cloud over my eyes and always try to spin some way to hold up my country as the greatest.
Sometimes people, and sometimes countries fuck up and we need to own it and learn from it.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Fradi, has nothing to do with patriotism, I have simply stated the facts. We can't bring back the people that died, nor can anyone, but the point is what happened when things got crazy bad here and what theses States did to respond. It was a model response and I say this having lived and worked through all of it here, as an essential employee, and having also recently traveled through every state from Florida to Connecticut and in between.

 

[Fradi]

EB,
Let’s hope these States continue to make the right decisions and are able to hold down the numbers and the rest can follow in their footsteps.
I think we can all agree on that and let’s hope that the US or any other country comes up with an effective vaccine to end this nightmare that we are all living and we can get back to talking more about which SP we like and be able to visit our loved ones like we did before.

 

[Zaeballo]

It is very heartening to hear from the posters above that NY City and areas nearby are essentially virus-free now, thanks to the excellent job done by the governor. It is a little less heartening though to learn that the said governor is so clueless about that achievement that he has decided to reimpose lockdown restrictions in a large part of the state.

The restrictions will affect large swaths of New York City, as well as nearby Rockland and Orange counties, with closures of nonessential businesses and limits on mass gatherings in certain hot spots.

New York Sets New Lockdown Restrictions Where Coronavirus Has Resurged

New York will reimpose lockdown restrictions in parts of the state that have seen recent surges in coronavirus cases, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said, and warned of wider limitations if infection rates continued to rise.

www.wsj.com

 

[The Nature Boy]

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It’s not an entire city lockdown. The amount of new virus cases in NYC is still well below 10%. These interventions are taking place to keep it that way. I’m not a Cuomo fan, by no means.

 

[IamNY]

It is very heartening to hear from the posters above that NY City and areas nearby are essentially virus-free now, thanks to the excellent job done by the governor. It is a little less heartening though to learn that the said governor is so clueless about that achievement that he has decided to reimpose lockdown restrictions in a large part of the state.

The restrictions will affect large swaths of New York City, as well as nearby Rockland and Orange counties, with closures of nonessential businesses and limits on mass gatherings in certain hot spots.

New York Sets New Lockdown Restrictions Where Coronavirus Has Resurged

New York will reimpose lockdown restrictions in parts of the state that have seen recent surges in coronavirus cases, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said, and warned of wider limitations if infection rates continued to rise.

www.wsj.com

What's interesting about the new lockdown areas or "clusters" as they are now called is that they are primarily in Orthodox Jewish communities. This is a very religious group of people. The new lockdowns are limiting attendance to their synagogues at 25% and/or only 10 people. This is causing a major problem their community. Especially with holidays coming up:

Members of Orthodox Jewish community protest for a second night in Brooklyn over new Covid-19 restrictions | CNN

Members of New York City's Orthodox Jewish community protested for a second night in Borough Park, Brooklyn, on Wednesday in response to strict new coronavirus-related restrictions.

www.cnn.com

 

[The Nature Boy]

Babes please, it’s TG weekend

 

[cloudsurf]

It is good news that overweight Chris Christie has survived.

Chris Christie released from hospital after Covid-19 treatment

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said he was released from the hospital Saturday morning following treatment for the coronavirus.

www.cnn.com

Do we know what type of treatment he got ? Was it the same as Trump?

 

[Zaeballo]

“Doctors gave Christie the anti-viral drug remdesivir, according to CNN, the same treatment that President Donald Trump was provided when hospitalized with Covid-19 at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.”

In addition to remdesivir, Trump was treated with Regeneron's experimental antibody cocktail. No word if Christie got the same.

 

[IamNY]

It is good news that overweight Chris Christie has survived.

Chris Christie released from hospital after Covid-19 treatment

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said he was released from the hospital Saturday morning following treatment for the coronavirus.

www.cnn.com

CNN doesn't use the word "overweight" anymore, it's been replaced with the overused phrase "morbidly obese". It scares people more efficiently.

 

[EagerBeaver]

CNN doesn't use the word "overweight" anymore, it's been replaced with the overused phrase "morbidly obese". It scares people more efficiently.

I have noticed that as well, also used for Trump. I read medical records for a living and it is the correct medical term that is used for persons who are a certain amount over the weight for persons of their height, age and sex. The term is used frequently in medical records because a significant percentage of Americans are morbidly obese. I think Christie's weight may be more concerning than Trump's based on my subjective visuals of the 2. This being said, I have clients who are much more morbidly obese than either of these 2. I have a client, ex college football defensive end, who carries over 400 pounds on a 6'4" frame. He is in his 40s and has had so many knee operations I have lost count- at least 12. Persons with chronic morbid obesity that is severe usually develop knee problems from the heavy load. He also had gastric bypass surgery but cannot keep the weight off. I am guessing his diet is not great (cheeseburgers, cheese doodles and lots of fried chicken is my guess), but I think he also battles genetics. He also has type 2 diabetes. Wonderful upbeat guy, but I worry about his health down the road.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Both trump and Christie are obese, Christie more so. He’s the prototypical guy u would think would be needing oxygen and working harder to breathe if he got covid. Both got remdesivir started waaaaaay earlier than any average person who gets covid. An average person who gets covid gets remdesivir started not when they are hours after diagnosis by a positive test or hours after mild symptoms start (remember Christie drove himself to hospital) but the average person gets it started after they are admitted in hospital, which has a different set of criteria for admission unless ur governor or president. Both trump and Christie were out in a matter of days, did fine. Kinda makes you wonder if remdesivir was able to be started earlier on others how much it would help, like if you could take it in oral form kinda like a tamiflu within 48 hours of start of symptoms or positive test result

 

[The Nature Boy]

Interesting compare and contrast from two blokes DJT’s age

Trump-aged Covid survivors on the president and the pandemic

Two Republicans with very different recovery stories to the president's - and differing views on him too.

www.bbc.com

 

[The Nature Boy]

Lol, totally makes the SNL depictions of him seem quite legit

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