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Nope!!! Subjects his secret service to this bullshit. U think that car has autonomous driving? Putin would hack that shit in a heartbeat
 

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I saw these three eminent scientists and doctors (from Oxford, Stanford and Harvard) on Laura Ingraham's show tonight. I agree with their main points.

In sum, their argument is to protect the vulnerable (older folks and some others) and everyone else should go back to normal life while taking reasonable precautions.

Covid experts: there is another way
Three eminent epidemiologists met in Massachusetts to plan a better response to the pandemic
BY SUNETRA GUPTA, JAY BHATTACHARYA AND MARTIN KULLDORFF
unherd.com

As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical, and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice.

Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed.

Fortunately, our understanding of the virus is growing. We know that vulnerability to death from COVID-19 is more than a thousand-fold higher in the old and infirm than the young. Indeed, for children, COVID-19 is less dangerous than many other harms, including influenza.

As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity.

The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection.

Adopting measures to protect the vulnerable should be the central aim of public health responses to COVID-19. By way of example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent PCR testing of other staff and all visitors. Staff rotation should be minimized. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home. When possible, they should meet family members outside rather than inside. A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches to multi-generational households, can be implemented, and is well within the scope and capability of public health professionals.

Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.

Great Barrington, Massachusetts, 4th October 2020
 

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The post above is the text from the "Great Barrington Declaration." It was signed by the three eminent doctors and scientists named in the above post and a number of other prominent co-signers from the medical and scientific community in the U.S. and around the world (including epidemiologists). See the declaration site for their names and affiliations.
 

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There will always be pros and cons.

Having said that, I don't agree with this report. 3 specialists are for almost everything, it's not a good idea. Maybe few, but not all.

It's on that will make them full of additional patients.

My statement is as valid as anyone.
 

The Nature Boy

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was this
1. De Blasio s plan?
2. Cuomo s plan
Or
3. A de Blasio plan Cuomo is saying he thought of or deblasio plan deblasio cant initiate since he’s not governor per Cuomo
 

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The governor runs the state. The tweet, if you read it, was from the governor and it applies to the state of NY.

my question is where does looting and vandalizing place on the graph? But that’s a question for another thread.
 

The Nature Boy

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Yea but cuomos absolutely given shit to deblasio. He’s been an asshole to him. Deblasio will say “we need to and plan to do this.” Cuomo the cunt will say “he caaaaaaaant do thaaaaaaat. I’m the governor.......onnnnly iiiiiii can saaay we can do thaaaaaat.”

Next day, Cuomo will introduce identical initiative to what deblasio stated @ one of his press conferences, lol!

@ least when Cuomo would ask DJT for anything, Trump would give him whatever he wanted. Fuck, trump wouldn’t even try and claim credit, he would straight up say “whatever he asked, we gave him”

I think deblasio s gettin a tough break and cuomos not helping

Not sure where I see goin with the looting stuff?? Was out of left field
 

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NY has had many protests over the past several months. Some are peaceful, but many escalate into looting, vandalizing, arson, attacks, etc. Many of them aren’t wearing mask, social distancing, etc. and most of it goes unpunished. But we need to quickly shut down houses of worship, businesses and schools. That‘s where I was going with that one.
But yes, the governor of NY and the mayor of NY are not on the same page and they clearly dislike each other.
 

The Nature Boy

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I think anyone looting a Trader Joe’s or target isn’t gonna give a shit about BLM or let alone wearing a F’ing mask.

It’s funny how you said protest “escalate” into riots and looting. There’s a lot of evidence that the protests do deteriorate into violence. I would use as an example that 17 yo shit head who thought it’s his duty to protect businesses with a semiautomatic. Yes, he was attacked, he was instigated, true, but when u stand around looking like a shit head with a semiautomatic, u may intimidate people.

However there’s a lot of evidence that the looting, and riots are being started by people who have no affiliation with BLM, lol.

It’s funny how a black dude running out of a target with a Samsung 65 inch is a BLM antifa affiliate, but the boys carrying torches and yelling “Jews will not replace us” have absolutely nothing to do with Trump?

Anywhoo since this is a covid thread,

Protest are reactionary. Sure they coulda found another way to show civil
Disobedience that may have been pandemic friendly but these movements were in a reaction to something. I don’t see them as in the same context as having campaign rallies which are planned, and coordinated

Schools, churches, and business can be open if the level of virus is down, but everyone has to play a part. You can’t have half the group saying it’s a hoax, fuck masks, I’m gonna do what I want. These fuckers make it hard for everyone else

Steven Miller tests positive. Now I feel even worse for his wife
 

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Protest are reactionary. Sure they coulda found another way to show civil
Disobedience that may have been pandemic friendly but these movements were in a reaction to something. I don’t see them as in the same context as having campaign rallies which are planned, and coordinate.
No doubt. Since the virus is obviously aware of that important distinction as well, the "peaceful" protests should go on non stop.
 

The Nature Boy

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Yes, as does your president
 

sene5hos

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Florida, really allowing NFL teams to have full capacity of fans in the stands?


From what I understand is that the people of FLORIDA absolutely want to have COVID.

Quickly the elections for, yes that we continue the Football, but WITHOUT SPECTATORS.

I have never seen more stupidity in my life.

Quick, quick let's reach the 300,000 dead.
 
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IamNY

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From what I understand is that the people of FLORIDA absolutely want to have COVID.
I don't see it that way. People will do what their leaders tell them to do. If their governor is telling them it's safe and we can all go to watch a live NFL game, you cant really blame the people that live there.
 

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I don't see it that way. People will do what their leaders tell them to do. If their governor is telling them it's safe and we can all go to watch a live NFL game, you cant really blame the people that live there.
But is it safe?
 

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But is it safe?
It's funny, the other poster shits on Floridians and your asking me if it's safe. You can tell from my original post I didn't feel right about it. I'm just posting something related to coronavirus in the coronavirus thread. Your both so wound up from the political threads that your missing what I actually posted.
 
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The Nature Boy

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TGW,
No, I don’t know? What is rate of infection?

Look @ some north east states, they are lit up in red on infections rate maps, but in some states ur only goin from 1% to 2%, so still not bad, but gotta watch
 
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