Coronavirus

[IamNY]

You know the vaccine doesn't prevent you to get covid right? It only helps that you don't get severe symptoms. But you still get it and still are contagious. #Newsflash

That's incorrect. From the CDC's website:

COVID-19 vaccination will help keep you from getting COVID-19​

• All COVID-19 vaccines currently available in the United States have been shown to be highly effective at preventing COVID-19. Learn more about the different COVID-19 vaccines.
• All COVID-19 vaccines that are in development are being carefully evaluated in clinical trials and will be authorized or approved only if they make it substantially less likely you’ll get COVID-19. Learn more about how federal partners are ensuring COVID-19 vaccines work.
• Based on what we know about vaccines for other diseases and early data from clinical trials, experts believe that getting a COVID-19 vaccine may also help keep you from getting seriously ill even if you do get COVID-19.
• Getting vaccinated yourself may also protect people around you, particularly people at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19.
• Experts continue to conduct more studies about the effect of COVID-19 vaccination on severity of illness from COVID-19, as well as its ability to keep people from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19.

 

[ravenazrael]

That's incorrect. From the CDC's website:

COVID-19 vaccination will help keep you from getting COVID-19​

• All COVID-19 vaccines currently available in the United States have been shown to be highly effective at preventing COVID-19. Learn more about the different COVID-19 vaccines.
• All COVID-19 vaccines that are in development are being carefully evaluated in clinical trials and will be authorized or approved only if they make it substantially less likely you’ll get COVID-19. Learn more about how federal partners are ensuring COVID-19 vaccines work.
• Based on what we know about vaccines for other diseases and early data from clinical trials, experts believe that getting a COVID-19 vaccine may also help keep you from getting seriously ill even if you do get COVID-19.
• Getting vaccinated yourself may also protect people around you, particularly people at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19.
• Experts continue to conduct more studies about the effect of COVID-19 vaccination on severity of illness from COVID-19, as well as its ability to keep people from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19.

Hmmm well... they are lying

 

[Zaeballo]

A year and a day ago:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1217043229427761152

 

[purplem]

Trump, early in 2020: "A lot of people think it goes away in April...with the heat."

 

[sene5hos]

Trump, early in 2020: "A lot of people think it goes away in April...with the heat."

Has trump ever said something true?

 

[IamNY]

Trump, early in 2020: "A lot of people think it goes away in April...with the heat."

He absolutely said that, but he wasn’t alone, many of the Covid geniuses thought the same thing.

Temperatures & Coronavirus: Can COVID-19 Survive the Heat?

Can Coronavirus survive the heat? Could warm weather stop COVID-19 from circulating? Find out if the weather and heat can reduce or possibly end the Coronavirus outbreak.

www.webmd.com

 

[IamNY]

Check out California's Covid cases nearing 3 million and an estimated 1 out of 3 people have been infected:

1 in 3 L.A. County residents have been infected by coronavirus since pandemic began, new estimate shows

Officials believe 1 in 3, or more than 3 million of L.A. County's 10 million residents, have been infected with the coronavirus, including 13,000 who have died.

www.latimes.com

 

[cloudsurf]

He absolutely said that, but he wasn’t alone, many of the Covid geniuses thought the same thing.

That is so absolutely dumb. When the Pandemic was starting out during our winter , it was out of control in the hot weather of Iran. Starting to get out of control in the summer of Brazil and South Africa. Only stable geniuses like trump would predict that the weather would control the outbreak. Gimme an other shot of Clorox.

 

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you sound pretty sure but it is not know whether there are silent spreaders with the pfizer or moderna vaccine since that was not tested. with many vaccines that is not the case. if what you say turns out to be true, then how will we achieve herd immunity-- which of course is what we are hoping for by getting a large percentage of the population vaccinated.

It is well known with all the vaccines that even if you are "immunized" and your system is ready to fight efficiently, this fight is not instantaneous. When you are "immunized" there are 2 systems protecting you. First you have a certain amount of antibodies circulating within your blood. When they find the antigen (the virus in this case) they trap it and, second, they present it to specialized lymphocytes (white cells, that were programmed upon vaccination) that will then produce much more antibodies and sort of eat the antigen. The reaction goes on and on up to the victory when there are no more circulating antigens. Afterward, the quantity of circulating antibodies will go down again, but your system is on guard for the next infection. The herd immunity is reached when a large majority of the population has this "safety watch" protection. So you may catch the virus, amplifies it a bit, and pass it but you may not notice it as you will not have any symptoms and will not be sick. Assuming you pass it to an "immunized" one, it will be the same for him. But if you pass it to a "non-immunized one" then this person could be sick. Herd immunity is just a statistic question. There are thousands of virus circulating but because we are immunized or they are not harmfull we do not notice them. Some virus even protect us as they are harmless but have similar proteins to other harmfull ones. In contact with the first ones, we have a kind of immunity toward the second dangerous ones. Just remember that those reactions take time and even if you are protected from sickness you can still pas the virus to and unprotected people. You understand that this is a simplified explanation giving you and idea of how the system works. In real life, immunology is a complex but wonderfull and efficient sytem but not fullproof... That is why we are still at war against HIV and cancer. Hope that it's help.

 

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That's incorrect. From the CDC's website:

COVID-19 vaccination will help keep you from getting COVID-19​

• All COVID-19 vaccines currently available in the United States have been shown to be highly effective at preventing COVID-19. Learn more about the different COVID-19 vaccines.
• All COVID-19 vaccines that are in development are being carefully evaluated in clinical trials and will be authorized or approved only if they make it substantially less likely you’ll get COVID-19. Learn more about how federal partners are ensuring COVID-19 vaccines work.
• Based on what we know about vaccines for other diseases and early data from clinical trials, experts believe that getting a COVID-19 vaccine may also help keep you from getting seriously ill even if you do get COVID-19.
• Getting vaccinated yourself may also protect people around you, particularly people at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19.
• Experts continue to conduct more studies about the effect of COVID-19 vaccination on severity of illness from COVID-19, as well as its ability to keep people from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19.

The problem is you don't get what is written. COVID is the disease, not the virus. The virus is Sars-Cov-2. So yes the vaccines prevent the disease but do not prevent you from getting the virus, amplifying a bit within your lungs (before your immune system eliminates all virus within you) and passing it to others. That is why, even vaccinated and immunized (it takes usually about 2-3 weeks to get a reliable immunity and often 2 doses to get a robust lasting one) we will be asked to continue to wash our hands, wear a mask (to protect others) and social distances. When we will get to herd immunity (6-9 months, who knows...) we could get back to a new normal that could be different from the one pre-COVID. Notice the words "believe" and "may" in the citation. Everything in the CDC statement is actually true. Vaccines (Pfizer, Modena and Astra-Zeneca) demonstrated to prevent severe illness. Nothing more, nothing less, for the moment. We can be hopefull but we must stay realistic.

 

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To get a rough idea of the complexity of immune system and how it works, here is a link. It is quite easy to understand but remember this is a very tricky area and we are still trying to understand how it works and sometime doesn't work so well... This is not up to date as it is from 2014 but it's enough for the purpose here. It is short and simple to understand.

Immune system

The immune system remembers every germ it has ever overcome.

www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au

 

[IamNY]

That is so absolutely dumb. When the Pandemic was starting out during our winter , it was out of control in the hot weather of Iran. Starting to get out of control in the summer of Brazil and South Africa. Only stable geniuses like trump would predict that the weather would control the outbreak. Gimme an other shot of Clorox.

Your right, it is completely dumb to think only Trump felt this way. Don't be so hard on yourself.

Temperatures & Coronavirus: Can COVID-19 Survive the Heat?

Can Coronavirus survive the heat? Could warm weather stop COVID-19 from circulating? Find out if the weather and heat can reduce or possibly end the Coronavirus outbreak.

www.webmd.com

 

[IamNY]

The problem is you don't get what is written.

It's what we have to go by. Maybe the CDC needs to ask peoples opinions on a Canadian escort review board. [...]. Providing links to what your talking about would be helpful for us common folk.

 

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It's what we have to go by. Maybe the CDC needs to ask peoples opinions on a Canadian escort review board. [...]. Providing links to what your talking about would be helpful for us common folk.

[...]. I allready put a link from Australian government explaining in simple words how immunology, our biological defense system, works. If you don't get it find some help. [...]. Stay safe!!! And by the way, I know very well what I'm talking about it is my field of expertise and training others.

 

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How immune system works. I post the link again as some asked for it:

Immune system

The immune system remembers every germ it has ever overcome.

www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au

 

[EagerBeaver]

Man Found Living For 3 Months In Secure Area of O'Hare Airport; Was Afraid of Covid:

Aditya Singh: Man found 'living in airport for three months' over Covid fears

Aditya Singh was reportedly afraid to fly due to Covid-19, so lived in Chicago's O'Hare airport.

www.bbc.com

 

[sene5hos]

Yesterday in USA

1 day = 4,367 deaths
Total = 406 190 deaths

Biden has a lot of work to do.

 

[Zaeballo]

At least Fauci is back in the saddle, so our American friends can breathe a sigh of relief.

Biden has sent letters to retract Trump's withdrawal to the U.N. secretary-general and to WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, Fauci said, addressing Tedros as "my dear friend."

Tedros responded on Twitter, "Thank you my brother Tony for leading the delegation" at the executive board meeting and for announcing the renewed U.S. support for the WHO.

With friends like these who needs enemies.

 

[purplem]

Thankfully the majority of Americans always had much more faith in Fauci and science than in Trump and bleach.

 

[sene5hos]

Prime Minister Boris Johnson says he’s seen evidence that the new variant of coronavirus first detected in the U.K. might be deadlier than the original strain.
Britain is experiencing a surge in coronavirus cases with average deaths over 1,200 in the last week.