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CLOUD 500

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I get the daily memories posts on Facebook and this is a post from exactly two years ago. Look at the red circled posts. Also notice the post of Trudeau sandwiched in the middle. This is how they made people fall for it. They literally pushed every single nonsensical word that they could think of at you. No matter how much they contradicted themselves, it did not matter. They were on a mission to just scramble your brains, and it worked. Look how many people fell for it. Now, we are where we are. Here is proof that they were inventing numbers to justify forced masks, vaccine passports, and lockdowns. And they are still doing it but the good thing is many people are waking up to this bs. You will see in fall cases will magically go up and they will make the hospital situation sound apocalyptic. However many devout Liberal voters see government as their God and will obey them no matter what.

Edit: I am adding the original links to the article. Really bad journalism. They did not even bother to check it because they know there are so many gullible people who think whatever the government says is the Lords Gospel Truth.


 

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They just cannot let go. Too much money to be made out of it. I am certain Trudeau is upset that his plans did not work, so they are trying to keep the "fear" floating. "COVID is still here" is their new slogan to keep that fear alive.
I wonder what does living with COVID mean if COVID disappeared.
I mean if we are to live with it, it certainly must still be around, or it won't be living with it, will it?
As always, they take something real and logical, and twist it in a way to make it scary to be able to harvest it ($).

I think you're giving Trudeau too much credit. I seriously doubt the capacity of any 1 person to dream up such grand plan or conspiracy. For one reason: how do you keep it quiet? Such a grand plan requires mass collaboration and obedience from the conspirators, which is damn near impossible. Politics is a bucket of pirahnas - everybody is constantly biting. Expose 1 little bit, make a tiny mistake and you're fish food.

The more likely explanation is that it's just a government trying to do the best it can, like you and me.
 

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As I understand it, since covid doesn't exist, Omicron variants don't exist either o_O
Covid exists and Omicron exists, however it is no where near as dangerous or deadly as previous strains.
It is now just a more dangerous flu than all the others and the world is learning to live and cope with it.
Perhaps you should do the same and stop with the doom and gloom scenarios.
People now have the freedom and option to protect themselves with vaccines that still work to prevent serious illness and death and there is more than a fair amount of natural resistance also as most of us are getting to the point of knowing many people who have had and recovered from Covid not just a few like in the beginning.
Time to get back to trying to live a normal life and stop all this BS fear mongering, it has destroyed enough businesses, economies and lives already.
For government it is also time to live up to their promises of improving health care for all especially the elderly and stop the BS lip service they continually deliver to the people.
Mr. Yo Yo should shut the fuck up about language debates and concentrate on the health of Quebecers, it doesn’t matter what fucking language you speak when you are hurting and in the hospital, you need help.
 
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As I understand it, since covid doesn't exist, Omicron variants don't exist either o_O
You did not bother to read or even look at the picture. That was taken two years ago. Did you not see the contradiction? I never said covid does not exist, it does but the government politically hijacked it like they did with climate change to push their agenda. Same tactic, covid alarmism and climate alarmism always a doom and gloom situation. Fear is an effective control tactic. You cannot be that blind but you are driven by emotion and ideology.
 
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For government it is also time to live up to their promises of improving health care for all especially the elderly and stop the BS lip service they continually deliver to the people.
Mr. Yo Yo should shut the fuck up about language debates and concentrate on the health of Quebecers, it doesn’t matter what fucking language you speak when you are hurting and in the hospital, you need help.
They are partially closing several ERs. Legault's priority has been with identity politics vs what really matters like healthcare. Millions spent on the language police and Bill 96 but no will for healthcare. Legault is more interested in whether you speak French at home. This is the problem we have, politicians driven by ideology. But when the time comes he is ready to force vaccine passports and curfews.

 

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think you're giving Trudeau too much credit. I seriously doubt the capacity of any 1 person to dream up such grand plan or conspiracy. For one reason: how do you keep it quiet? Such a grand plan requires mass collaboration and obedience from the conspirators, which is damn near impossible. Politics is a bucket of pirahnas - everybody is constantly biting. Expose 1 little bit, make a tiny mistake and you're fish food.

The more likely explanation is that it's just a government trying to do the best it can, like you and me.
It is "They" not "Him". The way politics work is through groups of interests. The markets are divided between big corporations in many industries. We all know about the Petroleum Cartel, the Gun Industry, the Tobacco Industry, etc... Every decade or so, you get some sectors dominating over others, or having more influence. COVID is not a conspiracy (or at least in the sense that a group planned its release, then the Vaccine). COVID happened, the world got scared, the Pharmaceutical industry, using the Media, and all the influence they had, shaped decision making to their favour. This is not "conspiracy", it is "Opportunism". Trudeau, Biden, and some other politicians, I believe, got involved in one way or another (invested, paid off, or any other way) to this industry, and stand to gain financially from the Vaccines (my opinion of course).
I cannot understand their behaviour in any other context. Politicians are sharks, they are not benevolent people that will do their "best" in a good sense.
The Vaccine's success has only been established in the media. Nothing practically has shown that the Vaccine has changed the Outcome. The Omicron was transmitted by the Travelling Vaccinated, and yet they kept pushing the Passport. When vaccinated died, they defended the Vaccine by stating it is not 100 percent immune.
Did you see any statistics on how many Non Vaccinated got the COVID and did not Die? I bet you it will be higher that 99 percent.
 
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It is "They" not "Him". The way politics work is through groups of interests. The markets are divided between big corporations in many industries. We all know about the Petroleum Cartel, the Gun Industry, the Tobacco Industry, etc... Every decade or so, you get some sectors dominating over others, or having more influence. COVID is not a conspiracy (or at least in the sense that a group planned its release, then the Vaccine). COVID happened, the world got scared, the Pharmaceutical industry, using the Media, and all the influence they had, shaped decision making to their favour. This is not "conspiracy", it is "Opportunism". Trudeau, Biden, and some other politicians, I believe, got involved in one way or another (invested, paid off, or any other way) to this industry, and stand to gain financially from the Vaccines (my opinion of course).
I cannot understand their behaviour in any other context. Politicians are sharks, they are not benevolent people that will do their "best" in a good sense.
The Vaccine's success has only been established in the media. Nothing practically has shown that the Vaccine has changed the Outcome. The Omicron was transmitted by the Travelling Vaccinated, and yet they kept pushing the Passport. When vaccinated died, they defended the Vaccine by stating it is not 100 percent immune.
Did you see any statistics on how many Non Vaccinated got the COVID and did not Die? I bet you it will be higher that 99 percent.
You described cronyism and this would not exist if there was a true free market and government did not have so much power. All those special interest groups are enabled by the government and corporations exist because of the government (limited liability). The government is to be blamed. That is why no government should ever have so much power. In my book the vaccines are a fail but the government is spewing whatever nonsense to justify their political narrative. The purpose of a vaccine is to prevent disease but the vaccine does not do that. Can we even call it a vaccine? The smallpox vaccine eliminated smallpox. Trudeau got his doses yet he got infected twice in the last six months. Does not make much sense to me. The media is funded by the government to spread their political agenda. The government benefited a lot from covid mandates (they made a lot of money, you do not know how many have shares in pharmaceutical companies or how many got bribed by the pharmaceutical companies). As long as yes man government people exist, this hoax will keep going on.
 

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The purpose of vaccine is to prevent severe disease. And it does it with and efficacy of 98% versus the virus it was designed against. PRETTY SUCCESSFULL!
Repeating what the government says does not make it is correct.
 
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^^^^^
Because the government said it, does not make it facts. Some are only interested in conforming rather then opening their eyes to reality. Easy to live in denial I guess.
 
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The purpose of vaccine is to prevent severe disease. And it does it with and efficacy of 98% versus the virus it was designed against. PRETTY SUCCESSFULL!
So basically you are saying anybody that is not vaccinated has a 2% chance of not having a severe disease, which of course is complete BS.
Yes vaccines work but not to the point that you are claiming or the government. Right now the majority of cases that are ending up in hospital are those that are over 60 and triple vaccinated, and the majority of deaths are the same and yes again some have underlying conditions that are contributing heavily.
The over 60 population was always the worst hit with every variant of Covid.
There are less people dying now not only because of vaccination but because Omicron while more contagious is far less deadly and less likely to land you in hospital that is also a fact.
So let’s not tell half facts and half truths.
 
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I never denied it but reading and comprehending is not one of your forte.
Unbeatable in posting and pasting though, doesn’t matter whether it is relevant or not or makes sense or not a clear case of quantity over quality lol.
There is no denying that vaccinations are of benefit to keep you from being hospitalized or dying 98% all due to vaccines that is ridiculous.
Basically probably less than 5% would die or end up seriously sick right now from Omicron vaccinated or not and most of those again would be over 60 with underlying conditions.
 

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Indeed and excellent at pushing the Liberal agenda. If it is not a Liberal stance not matter how damaging it is, he will use wokeness to twist what you wrote. But now after two years the narrative must end. Omicron is just like a cold and destroying the economy and mental health is not justifyed anymore. The original strain was definitely deadly but the other variants are much less lethal. It is the same pattern the Spanish flu followed, first strain was deadly but the other ones not so dangerous. See how all airports are over crowded, ppl are going crazy wanting to travel. I just do not understand what is politicians problem with people having their freedom and choosing what is best for them. The same goes for abortions, sex work, and covid mandates.
 

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Coming out ahead in this grim contest is no big prize but I'd take it nonetheless. No doubt mistakes were made, but I am thankful a lot of Canadians get to live another day. Could be someone's grandpa, or someone else who doesn't have to live with long covid. We made it.


Canada handled key aspects of the response to the COVID-19 pandemic better in the first two years of the health emergency than most G10 countries

Researchers from the University of Toronto and Unity Health Toronto compared COVID-19 infection, death, excess mortality and vaccination rates, social and public health restrictions and economic performance to determine how the G10 countries performed.

The countries — including Canada, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States — were chosen due to similarities in their economic and political models, per-capita income levels and population size.

Canada's rate of COVID-19 deaths was also second-lowest among countries included in the study, at 919 deaths per one million, as was its excess mortality rate, which incorporates the number of deaths during a period of crisis like the COVID-19 pandemic compared to the expected number of deaths in nominal conditions. Only Japan's COVID-19 death and excess mortality rates were lower, despite the country's lower vaccination rates, less severe restrictions and older population.
 
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If the US had done as well as us, 600,000+ Americans would be alive today. No doubt we all had to make sacrifices, but I am thankful a lot of Canadians get to live another day. Could be someone's grandpa, or someone else who doesn't have to live with long covid.
Didnt know it was a competition, congratulations.
 
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