Il semble bien dans le meilleur des scénarios que la reprise normale se fera en Juin ici comme aux States.......même Trump ----qui a retardé fin Avril la distanciation---semble finalement de cet avis.....son medical task force a finalement réussi à lui faire entendre raison........ cela nous permettrait enfin de retourner tranquillement à une vie normale et profiter de l'été.
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i think trump was listening to EB's pulmonologist instead of the experts. by early march there was a chorus of epidemiologists warning of dire consequences and trump was still saying "its very mild" "i'm not concerned at all" it will go away. just stay calm. it will go away" of course even when people are dying, he is still entirely focused on trump "I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president." total buffoon. unfortunately, its not funny.
Thanks for posting and summaries! Much appreciated. I’ll get through them. Let’s hope if prior infection doesn’t provide long term immunity subsequent infections will be milder.
Cloud it's clear any scientist who were still doubting about the severity of the virus early March are completely disconnected from their practices field. That can also happen to older scientist who watch too much Fox and do not read enough publication from their own medical association.
Exactly. And doctors are human also & quite often wrong in their diagnostics. That's why people go to other doctors for second & third opinions. A few weeks ago the doctor at my job site wrote a memo trying to reassure everyone that the virus was 'very difficult to get from others'. I wrote a note on the memo which said "yeah, right...dumbass!" People who saw the memo chuckled at my note but i was being serious.
The problem at the time is that many doctors hadn't fully done the research as much as other regular people (such as myself) had done & simply relied on word-of-mouth from colleagues & what they heard on tv (e.g. Fox News). Trust me, doctors make a lot of mistakes also. They're profession often involves judgement & making a decision and they aren't always the right ones. They're human beings.
Republican Senator Rand Paul is a physician and he didn't wait to mingle with others, have dinner with colleagues & hang out at the gym for a week or two before he got his test results which indicated he had tested positive for COVID-19.
Leaving China, Russia and Iran asides as I do not trust these country at all. The USA seems to be by far the worst hit country of all. The US is testing less (per capita) then many other country yet still have the fastest positive infection cases by far. If you look at the rate per day it's very scary. Next was Italy. And Italy has one of the best healthcare system in the world, easily on par with the USA.
It’s not just Italy, northern Italy, Milan and especially Bologna have some of the best physicians and facilities anywhere.
What is the scene in MTL? R people listening to the stay @ home order or are you seeing people out and about other than groceries and the pharmacy?
Are there contingency plans for auxiliary hospital facility sites?
their changing some of the football and cricket pitches to hospitals soon here in UK
What is the scene in MTL? R people listening to the stay @ home order or are you seeing people out and about other than groceries and the pharmacy?
Are there contingency plans for auxiliary hospital facility sites?
their changing some of the football and cricket pitches to hospitals soon here in UK
there is a difference between clinicians and scientists. most clinicians have never been involved in research and may not be on top of recent research findings. also, they may be more swayed by anecdotal evidence than a scientist who has been subject to the rigors of actually "proving" something. fauci is a scientist and has been involved in research his entire career. he is surely on top of much of the research and would also know which experts in the research community to contact for advice.
This was NOT early March, as I said earlier, it was back in December. And I posted his opinion in the thread at the time it was made and nobody had any reaction to it back then. You included. I think the medical opinions changed from December to March, but it's my opinion that if the medical opinion had been universal back in December, we would be a lot better prepared for what happened. In any event we were not, so the finger pointing now doesn't solve anything. We have to move forward. And figure this thing out.
Fauci is both clinician and researcher I believe, he’s an infectious disease dr. Still sees patients I’m pretty sure. Clinicians or doctors have to maintain continuing education requirements that test them often on latest research and treatment trends or else they can’t maintain their certification with respective boards.
Clinicians who blew off covid-19 prob did so because they have never seen shit like this before. U can be a physician, extremely intelligent but have a mindset when ur not used to seeing anything anyone else has ever seen.
Its like Ivy League educated lawyers and judges who will tell you Trump did nothing impeachable, lol. Not trying to be political, but like covid-19, it’s shit no ones ever seen
Clinicians who blew off covid-19 prob did so because they have never seen shit like this before. U can be a physician, extremely intelligent but have a mindset when ur not used to seeing anything anyone else has ever seen.
Its like Ivy League educated lawyers and judges who will tell you Trump did nothing impeachable, lol. Not trying to be political, but like covid-19, it’s shit no ones ever seen
Quebec is doing a good job of restricting social interactions. The death rate is relatively low so far.
I went to a local grocery outlet last week and the measures taken where quite strict and stringent.
There was a security guard making sure that you sanitize your hands. Another sanitized your cart and only 1 peron was allowed in every minute. 2 meter distancing was mandatory at the cash where plexi-glass separations protected cashiers and customer from infecting each other. Everyone wore gloves and sanitizers were at every cash.
The border with NY is closed to all but essential travel. In any case, as I said... supply chains must remain operational.
If the supply chain didn't remain operational where would Quebec be getting its produce from right now?
Short term I really doubt it would be a big issue EB. The real problem is if the border remain close Agriculturist (or do we say cultivator?) will not be able to bring in the 15k mexican that come work in the fields in Quebec each year. That worries them much right now.
Que dire des pauvres américains qui sont maintenant premier dans le monde pour le nombre de cas de Coronavirus.
C'est Trump qui doit être content, il est le premier !!
J'ai peur que si Trump ne décréte pas des mesures sanitaires sévères applicables très rapidement à tous les États, il y a de très forts risques que la pandémie se généralise au lieu d'être confinée dans certaines grandes villes.
C'est Trump qui doit être content, il est le premier !!
J'ai peur que si Trump ne décréte pas des mesures sanitaires sévères applicables très rapidement à tous les États, il y a de très forts risques que la pandémie se généralise au lieu d'être confinée dans certaines grandes villes.
Legault was saying in the press conference that quebecers would have to work the field
Wait before you make Trump tweet and praise about it! Iran probably has half a million case. China? Source say they got many more then reported.
Serious? Shoot! Well since we will all be without jobs we could go together Fly? We could talk pussy while picking up berries
As if first responders and healthcare professionals didn`t have a though and dangerous job as is....what is happening in India is insane.
Doctors in parts of India are being shunned , threatened and chased out of their homes because their neighbours fear that they carry the virus and will spread it around the hood,
Close relatives of mine are in the health and first responder sector and I worry about their health every minute of the day.
Many of the escorts that I`ve met over the years are also in the health profession as a their other job. I hope they all stay safe.
Doctors in parts of India are being shunned , threatened and chased out of their homes because their neighbours fear that they carry the virus and will spread it around the hood,
Close relatives of mine are in the health and first responder sector and I worry about their health every minute of the day.
Many of the escorts that I`ve met over the years are also in the health profession as a their other job. I hope they all stay safe.
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