Coronavirus

[minutemenX]

The US now has about 33% of the world's Coronavirus cases, despite having barely 4% of the world's population. In particular, even socialist Canada, with our vastly inferior medical system, is doing much better proportionately. .

OK. Let’s compare Quebec and the US

US- number of cases is 675000 per 328 M of population, i.e. 2057/M
Quebec- 16798 cases per 8.5 M. i.e. 1976/m
Deaths rate: US, 105.3/M, Quebec 81/M
Where is the MUCH BETTER difference?

 

[EagerBeaver]

There is another expression made famous by a prior US President.....The buck stops here. Something not in Trump`s vocabulary.

Harry Truman. Cuomo's statement "you can't pass the buck without passing the bucks" is rooted in Truman's famous statement, and in that respect, it was a dig at Trump.

I thought I would get one of the Canadian posters to bite on Scheer or Legault.

 

[EagerBeaver]

10 Nurses Suspended For Refusing To Work Without N95 Masks

Look at the photo in this article of 8 nurses, 7 with fists raised. What's up with the one who did not raise her fist? Did she manage to avoid suspension?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/us/california-coronavirus-nurses-suspended-trnd/index.html

 

[cloudsurf]

I agree with the nurses. Every health care professional and first responder should have access to an N-95 face mask and an eye shield when they are dealing with a covid19 patient . That is minimal protection for themselves and their family in a highly dangerous and underpaid environment. Its a bloody miracle that more nurses aren`t protesting and aren`t quitting.

 

[jalimon]

In particular, even socialist Canada, with our vastly inferior medical system

No true. Yes Canada's health system is inferior to many developed countries. But of which the American health system is last.

 

[jalimon]

The number of cases is proportional to the population and the density of testing (say # of testing per 1 million). Factor this in and the US is better than many European countries.

As of now per million USA has tested 10,815. Italy 20,577. Germany 20,629. Switzerland 25,004. Canada 13,452. Iceland 115,859!
Cheers,

 

[anon_vlad]

OK. Let’s compare Quebec and the US........

Your argument belongs in a text of how to lie with Statistics. I compared the US with Canada, not the US with Quebec. Would you like me to compare Canada with NY state?

USA: Total Cases: 710K; Cases per IM: 2146; Deaths per 1M: 112

Canada: Total Cases: 32K; Cases per IM: 846; Deaths per 1M: 35

Roughly, Canada is doing 3X better.
I'm amazed that Trump defenders don't injure themselves with the contortions they perform to defend their circus clown.

 

[anon_vlad]

No true. Yes Canada's health system is inferior to many developed countries. But of which the American health system is last.

I was being sarcastic.

 

[minutemenX]

Your argument belongs in a text of how to lie with Statistics.............

I bet that at the end of this the mortality rate will be almost uniform in Western countries. This is like judging a hockey match among equal teams by the first 10 minutes.

 

[ShyMan]

"[FONT=&amp]Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canada and the United States have struck a deal to extend current border restrictions between the two countries by an additional 30 days.

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]"This is an important decision and one that will keep people on both sides of the border safe," Trudeau said at the top of his daily COVID-19 briefing Saturday [18/4/2020]."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-saturday-covid-19-update-1.5537251

The other main question is when will the airlines resume operations in any meaningful way. And when will consumers regain sufficient confidence to get on commercial flights again.
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[sene5hos]

Yes, well done Mr. Trudeau. In short everything will remain as before.

Not easy to negotiate with Trump, because he wanted to reopen its borders with Canada. Finally Mr. Trudeau and his government are very good diplomats.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I'd love to see a movement where Canada could be a country-wide Wall along the US border. With beautiful doors to allow essential traffic to go through. With testing stations at each door. And better yet: America would pay for it!

I fear that more & more states will succumb to Trump's pressure & will re-open within the next few weeks. Things will only get worse & more people will unecessarily die. If people think it's a catastrophe now it'll only be worse in a few months! Testing in the US currently is a joke & unless country-wide testing is the norm there's no fucking way any consideration to open the border should happen!

Even Ontario Premier Doug Ford whom i never really liked much in the past said the other day that he doesn't want any Americans entering Ontario & wants them to stay in their country. This problem is very far from being over & it'll take a lot more sacrifice & patience for things to get back to being semi-normal again!

 

[ShyMan]

Even Ontario Premier Doug Ford whom i never really liked much in the past said the other day that he doesn't want any Americans entering Ontario & wants them to stay in their country.

I too agree with that sentiment.

For the foreseeable future, Canada is likely to maintain a two-weeks (3 weeks might be more preferable) self-isolation requirement on anyone entering or returning from abroad.

 

[cloudsurf]

There is no way that the border will reopen in 30 days if any provinces object, even if it is under federal jurisdiction.

 

[The Nature Boy]

The hot spots other than Florida are logic friendly, ie ny/Cuomo, NJ/Murphy, CT/Lamont, Cali/Newsom, Michigan/their hot governor. Even states like Ohio and florida r skeptical of trumps rhetoric. It’s Florida’s desantis who scares me. Reminds of a frat pledge desperately trying to impress the senior frat bros during rush week.

I do agree with DJT halting funds to WHO. Although why all the rhetoric against the Mexicans and Mexico? Why not halt the funding like he did and get CHYYYYYNAHHH to pay? He’s keeping quiet about that. A lot of that $$ came from bush jr. he did a lot for aids research in conjunction with WHO

 

[IamNY]

I fear that more & more states will succumb to Trump's pressure & will re-open within the next few weeks.

Many more people travel from Canada to the USA so it will be Trump succumbing to Canada's pressure. I see the border opening up sometime in June, so we will get back to you.

 

[jalimon]

Thinking about it this is a blessing for Boeing. A shut down following by many months of very weak demand with free money from a bailout it give the 1-2 year they need to fix their fucking plane

 

[Cruiser777]

OK. Let’s compare Quebec and the US

US- number of cases is 675000 per 328 M of population, i.e. 2057/M
Quebec- 16798 cases per 8.5 M. i.e. 1976/m
Deaths rate: US, 105.3/M, Quebec 81/M
Where is the MUCH BETTER difference?

Before we throw numbers away, I like to remind you that Quebec had 3X times the senior homes / facilities run by the
Quebec government (And some privately also) compare to any other provinces in Canada
(Don't know the ratio / seniors home in the US).

So there are more seniors in the system in Quebec who were taken care of 'Very nicely' prior to this, it is is unfortunate
that this virus hit the seniors homes big time where the majority of the victims are over 70 or so (Lets not forget also that
Quebec had the most testing done way before anyone else)...
Also when thousands of people were returning to Quebec from The US.

While in the US people are bitching, fighting, believing its a hoax, not respecting the SDing rules, testing per capita...maybe way
lower then anywhere else in the world ??? etc etc, the final numbers are still to be determined, then we can compare
real numbers / differences.

Also in the US, whats with the line ups of thousands of cars waiting for hours for food basket ???
Some of the cars I see in the line ups are not all shit boxes, I see some fancy cars people bagging for food ?

Although Quebec and so many other countries taking care of the needy, the poor by distributing food baskets etc
but didn't see anything like whats happening in the US.

 

[CLOUD 500]

There is so much we do not know about Covid-19 and all of this fear mongering is causing panic. There is a complete lack of evidence. It is not clear of the majority of people are carrying the virus and are just asymptomatic. We do not know if social distancing is effective. We do not know what kind of effect reopening the economy will have. Only way is to try it out, an experiment if you will. We need data. On the other hand I was looking up on Polio and the epidemic during the mid 20th century. It bares many similarities even though the disease is different. Polio is far more worse and dangerous then Covid-19 and it was very contagious yet they did not do this kind of complete lockdown that they are doing today. The epidemic lasted decades till an actual vaccine was developed in 1954. There is still no cure for Polio but it can only be prevented. Point is one has to look at the past to see how things played out. There may never be a vaccine for Covid-19. Do we live in fear and locked up at home for decades? That is not living life if you ask me. I rather take my chances. My own personal opinion.

An interesting article of the Polio epidemic using the lens of Covid-19 -> https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...io-epidemic-through-a-covid-19-lens-1.4901831

 

[The Nature Boy]

Do you know how polio is transmitted brother?