We know that most people that die are in old folks homes or have pre existing conditions. The people that are in the public that come up with the virus and die are probably smoker, previous smokers and people that have conditions brought on by their jobs. Like mechanics that breath in exhaust all day or people that work in environments with chemical fumes.
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Is that what is going on in Quebec? Especially Montreal? Predominantly elderly passing/getting hospitalized and being vented? It’s been well established that in U.K. and Europe where there’s a shit load of young healthy people who were being hospitalized, if they were in hospital they were surely requiring oxygen. A smaller % of these peeps were needing mechanical ventilation. Most of the vented were passing. Again these were young healthy guys. They were mostly males. It’s also been well established in the tri state area in USA, so I’m asking people on ground in Quebec, are you all the outliers where its pretty much elderly with co morbidities?
Lot and lot of smokers in Montreal ... only thing I hate about the city really is walking from meeting to meeting outdoors and passing by cloud after cloud of smokers - many very attractive women too .. always wonder as each one I pass ... at night, do they love a double escort life! If many illnesses in Montreal could it be due to high percentage of smokers as James Mason states above?
Well Larry, your pee-pee will just have to adopt my boy Borris’s new motto and stay alert and ease up on any restrictions you may have imposed on ur little friend by unzipping if any of those chics are under cover SP’s.
TNB yes here to the vast majority of death remained from elderly. The virus is doing an incredible clean up in our erlederly nurses home and pensions. There will be no waiting list for a few years in those places!
Like everywhere the % of survival for patient on ventilators is really low. Anyone who reach that level should have made their best wishes and accept that death is around the corner.
Quebec sees a much higher % of women needing hospitalization then other countries. Is it because, like onjustlark wrote, because of smoking... Could be.
Very few cases here of young healthy passing away.
And yes it helps if you do not have any other conditions.
The problem with such virus is the contagion.
I mean diabetes, cardiovacular problem, cirrhosis or lung cancer are most probably your own fault. You ate/drank/smoke too much... You will die sooner.
Pretty much all other cancer are a bad lottery that you won.. And have to fight. Not your fault or anyone else's.
But this is different because you may get the virus and live asymptomatically with it. But because you are a selfish loser who is above what everyone say you should do you go on with your regular life, because your life is more important, you infect dozens of people who may develop serious life condition or die... all because of you.
This is why this thing is such a fucking mess. We need to accept and live with new rules and new conditions until treatment or a virus is available.
Like everywhere the % of survival for patient on ventilators is really low. Anyone who reach that level should have made their best wishes and accept that death is around the corner.
Quebec sees a much higher % of women needing hospitalization then other countries. Is it because, like onjustlark wrote, because of smoking... Could be.
Very few cases here of young healthy passing away.
And yes it helps if you do not have any other conditions.
The problem with such virus is the contagion.
I mean diabetes, cardiovacular problem, cirrhosis or lung cancer are most probably your own fault. You ate/drank/smoke too much... You will die sooner.
Pretty much all other cancer are a bad lottery that you won.. And have to fight. Not your fault or anyone else's.
But this is different because you may get the virus and live asymptomatically with it. But because you are a selfish loser who is above what everyone say you should do you go on with your regular life, because your life is more important, you infect dozens of people who may develop serious life condition or die... all because of you.
This is why this thing is such a fucking mess. We need to accept and live with new rules and new conditions until treatment or a virus is available.
Wow. No disrespect, and only my opinion, but I'm relieved you don't run this country or manage my tax dollars.
This doctor would disagree with you. He supports the Sweden model, and not the lockdowns. I know nothing of him, so maybe someone will tell me he is a quack and I certainly haven't fact checked him. But if you can get through a 30 min interview, I found him very thought provoking. He touches on pretty much every hot button topic in these threads. First time posting a link, I hope it works.
Ditto x 10 .... To each their own ... so, while you huddle in your shell, please send me your go-to list of ladies so I can bang the gong in your absence!
Listen Sweden had no full lockdown but can you say they have normal living? Nope my friend they don't. Especially since they had much more case and problem then neighboring country. I understand we won't live in a lock down forever. But we need to accept until there is good treatment or a vaccine there will be no "normal".
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Basicaly your thinking sounds like this: Ground all flights till we have a technology to have zero crashes or restrict all cars till there are zero crashes. There is something as too much security. This is it. It will destroy everything. Mass business bamkruptcies, this board will disappear also, escorts, MPs all will be gone, anything entertainment related all gone, no more festivals, no more bars, no more gyms, no more movie theatres, no more sports, all will be gone due to social distance rules. Society will be completely dysfunctional. The virus is going nowhere and there will probably be no vaccine so we got to get on with our lives. How long do you propose we live like this? 5 years? 10 years?
Basicaly your thinking sounds like this: Ground all flights till we have a technology to have zero crashes or restrict all cars till there are zero crashes. There is something as too much security. This is it. It will destroy everything. Mass business bamkruptcies, this board will disappear also, escorts, MPs all will be gone, anything entertainment related all gone, no more festivals, no more bars, no more gyms, no more movie theatres, no more sports, all will be gone due to social distance rules. Society will be completely dysfunctional. The virus is going nowhere and there will probably be no vaccine so we got to get on with our lives. How long do you propose we live like this? 5 years? 10 years?
i don’t understand the Swedish model? Aren’t they calling it herd immunity? The concept is to let everyone out there get infected and isolate the vulnerable? I’m not sure of the statistics in Sweden but it would be interesting to see who exactly is the predominant group getting knocked off in this model? I don’t have a problem with a country wanting to do this, but don’t call it herd immunity, just say “we r gonna do whatever the fuck we want”
I prefer the Swedish model to the American model where there’s a set of guidelines mandated by someone who is systematically undermining them, this is gotta be the worse model worldwide
I prefer the Swedish model to the American model where there’s a set of guidelines mandated by someone who is systematically undermining them, this is gotta be the worse model worldwide
The comparison of car crashes and plane crashes to a contagious disease is just ducking goofy to say it mildly
TNB ... you misses the analogy Cloud was making ... was not a direct comparison. There lies the difference.
The "American" model is pretty much similar to every other country model - difference here is we are the UNITED States .. States have their own rights and can make determinations aside from the Fed Govt .. I assume that to be similar in Canada with Provincial laws independent of this set by white Obama Trudeau, no?
The "American" model is pretty much similar to every other country model - difference here is we are the UNITED States .. States have their own rights and can make determinations aside from the Fed Govt .. I assume that to be similar in Canada with Provincial laws independent of this set by white Obama Trudeau, no?
I think I understand your analogy, but diabetes, cardiovascular problems, cirrhosis and lung cancer are not mostly a persons fault. I do agree that eating, drinking and smoking too much is.
the Comparison I got from bizarro cloudy was that he was assuming jalimon s mentality is shut shit down until a vaccine is available. Much in the same way bizarro cloudy is asking would u shut all flights until there’s a “technological vaccine” to prevent crashes. Me getting on a flight in gatwick with a pilot whose been on a pub crawl all night is not gonna affect some dude jerking off to Lola the brats videos in Montreal is it?
I get what ur saying about state rights vs federal mandates Larry, but then just say that. But then why all the bullshit of say one thing and then not back up your own team that your in charge of
I get what ur saying about state rights vs federal mandates Larry, but then just say that. But then why all the bullshit of say one thing and then not back up your own team that your in charge of
I don’t know who you mean by ‘they’, but this doctor doesn’t. He claims it’s simply a byproduct of their approach, and not the approach itself. He also attempts to explain why you can’t compare them to their neighbouring countries. Anyway, interesting, worth a listen if you have 30 mins
i watched most of the video. I am not a fan of complete lockdown (at least not for this long), but i dont find this swede to be very convincing. The interviewer is talking more than him. He is aloof and a little bit smug, not too mention he does not back up what he says with very much. This interview is from 3 weeks ago. He says he beleives if you had done antibody testing we would have found a significant proportion of the population would have antibodies (he is implying more than 30%). Regions that have been heavily affected (NYC, italy,...) still today dont show more than 20%. So he was wrong.
Watching just "most of the video" is like engaging an SP for just most of the paid encounter time - you really don't get the full experience.
And IS he ... or is the reporting wrong? Time will tell ... too soon right now since every State is misrepresenting deaths due to CCP Virus to collect their money ... am VERY surprised that news of Jerry Stiller (Frank Costanze - George's father on Seinfeld) passing away at 92 did NOT contain the phrase "... from complications due to China Virus" Lost Money! LOL
TEST TRACE ISOLATE
It would be nice if Trump would apply his White House’s Covid-19 “Test, Trace, Isolate” practices to the rest of the country.
www.cnn.com
Washington(CNN) Trump administration officials spent the weekend scrambling as they attempted to do contact tracing for Katie Miller, Vice President Mike Pence's press secretary who tested positive for coronavirus last week.
But they had not identified who Miller contracted the virus from as of Sunday, raising concerns inside the White House about how to contain the outbreak ...
Trump believes an economic rebound will only come when governors decide to lift restrictions and is concerned at any signs the virus is resurgent.
At the same time, he's told people he doesn't want to be near anyone who hasn't been tested and has bristled when coming into contact with some people at the White House.
It would be nice if Trump would apply his White House’s Covid-19 “Test, Trace, Isolate” practices to the rest of the country.
White House scrambles after staffers test positive as new mask mandate takes effect
Trump administration officials spent the weekend scrambling after two staffers tested positive for coronavirus, bringing the pandemic closer to President Donald Trump even as he works to reopen parts of the country.
www.cnn.com
Washington(CNN) Trump administration officials spent the weekend scrambling as they attempted to do contact tracing for Katie Miller, Vice President Mike Pence's press secretary who tested positive for coronavirus last week.
But they had not identified who Miller contracted the virus from as of Sunday, raising concerns inside the White House about how to contain the outbreak ...
Trump believes an economic rebound will only come when governors decide to lift restrictions and is concerned at any signs the virus is resurgent.
At the same time, he's told people he doesn't want to be near anyone who hasn't been tested and has bristled when coming into contact with some people at the White House.
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