Coronavirus

[IamNY]

New cases in Canada continue to increase, another lock down is possible:

Canada faces ‘very serious third wave’ of pandemic: Trudeau

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's comments come as largest province sees rise in hospitalisations as variants spread.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^^ BC started the lockdown ( closures ) last week and Alberta starts on Friday. Morons do not see it does not work, lockdown, cases go down, open up and they go up again, we can not do this year after year. Follow Texas and you may find a solution.

 

[IamNY]

The jury is still out in the states if the lockdowns helped or hurt us during the pandemic.

 

[cloudsurf]

It definitely hurt the economy but helped health workers and hospitals and those at risk. Was it worth it is the question.

 

[ssj3]

The jury is still out in the states if the lockdowns helped or hurt us during the pandemic.

We agree on a lot of things TGW..but on this one we are diametrically opposed. Lockdowns did NOT help..all they did was cause widespread misery in almost all other aspects of life. The only time I would say it truly helped was in the very beginning when we didn’t know enough about the virus..that’s it.

 

[IamNY]

We agree on a lot of things TGW..but on this one we are diametrically opposed. Lockdowns did NOT help..all they did was cause widespread misery in almost all other aspects of life. The only time I would say it truly helped was in the very beginning when we didn’t know enough about the virus..that’s it.

Hey, maybe my post wasn't clear. I was just pointing out that we do not know if lockdowns helped or not. Personally, much like yourself, I feel that lockdowns did not help at all.

 

[IamNY]

28 day lock down in Ontario:

Ontario issues stay-at-home order, closes most stores as COVID-19 cases rise

Ontario on Thursday will begin a four-week stay-at-home order and close in-store shopping for non-essential retailers, Premier Doug Ford said on Wednesday, as the Canadian province battles a surge of COVID-19 cases.

www.reuters.com

 

[Robert 21]

28 day lock down in Ontario:

Ontario issues stay-at-home order, closes most stores as COVID-19 cases rise

Ontario on Thursday will begin a four-week stay-at-home order and close in-store shopping for non-essential retailers, Premier Doug Ford said on Wednesday, as the Canadian province battles a surge of COVID-19 cases.

www.reuters.com

SO, This “Stay at Home” lock down is on the Honor System (?).
Does this include No Travel between Provinces?



***THE BORDER WILL NEVER OPEN WITHOUT COMPLIANCE***

 

[EagerBeaver]

This is extremely upsetting news. The CDC has issued a travel advisory warning on Canada due to Covid variants "rolling" through the Canadian provinces:

https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/coronavirus/article250506644.html

 

[cloudsurf]

Canada has caught up with the US in number of cases per capita. Because of the JT`s government pathetic handling of the vaccine rollout, Canada will soon be behind the States.
As far as variants go the US has as big a problem as Canada . The UK variant is the prominent virus in most US states. The world will soon have a major problem with the Brazilian variant or should I say variants. Brazil is a petrie dish for variants of Covid.
You poor American mongers can`t go anywhere in the America`s or most of Europe. How about Australia instead.

 

[ssj3]

Everyone that is freaking out about the variants really needs to calm down. To date, no discovered variant has demonstrated vaccine escape. The mutations will eventually come to a halt. If a virus mutates too much it will mutate itself out of existence

 

[cloudsurf]

Everyone should be concerned about variants. They are more contagious and being spread by younger adults and kids. Ontario is in lockdown but it still had a record of over 4000 cases yesterday. Lockdowns don`t work unless schools are closed, air travel is curtailed, and everyone is mandated by law to wear a mask.

 

[IamNY]

A little more than 34% of the US have had their first shot of the Covid vaccine and about 20% have been fully vaccinated. More variants are discovered everyday and they now have frightening new names like the "double mutant" variant. Our Covid numbers have been coming down while other countries have been on the rise. In the US we aren't adhering to the recommendations from the CDC anymore than we have in the past. IMHO the only reason our Covid cases are continually dropping and deaths have been significantly reduced is because people are getting vaccinated. We are far from herd immunity but at least we are on track to have a good percentage of Americans that want to be vaccinated by the summer.

 

[The Nature Boy]

I was under the impression that #’s have plateaued? In some states #’s are increasing as well as hospitalizations. The age bracket of those who are getting hospitalized has also shifted to 40-60 year olds.

But concur whole heartedly with your last statement

 

[ssj3]

Everyone should be concerned about variants. They are more contagious and being spread by younger adults and kids. Ontario is in lockdown but it still had a record of over 4000 cases yesterday. Lockdowns don`t work unless schools are closed, air travel is curtailed, and everyone is mandated by law to wear a mask.

Didn’t say variants shouldn’t be of concern..just said people are freaking out too much about them. Like I said, no variant has demonstrated vaccine escape. The main reason you’re seeing so many cases is because Canada is severely lagging behind in vaccinations.

 

[cloudsurf]

Didn’t say variants shouldn’t be of concern..just said people are freaking out too much about them. Like I said, no variant has demonstrated vaccine escape. The main reason you’re seeing so many cases is because Canada is severely lagging behind in vaccinations.

Very true that Canada is severely lagging behind the States in vaccinations, but its not the only reason that covid cases have spiked to all time highs.
When you get a vax and only build a low level of antibodies then you have a chance of catching covid after a vaccine ......as thousands of Americans have in the last couple of months. A form of vaccine escape found mostly among variants.

 

[ssj3]

When you get a vax and only build a low level of antibodies then you have a chance of catching covid after a vaccine ......as thousands of Americans have in the last couple of months. A form of vaccine escape found mostly among variants.

I am unaware of any documented cases of infection after full vaccination (post two weeks) let alone “thousands.”

 

[sene5hos]

Didn’t say variants shouldn’t be of concern..just said people are freaking out too much about them. Like I said, no variant has demonstrated vaccine escape. The main reason you’re seeing so many cases is because Canada is severely lagging behind in vaccinations.

Are you a virologist to make this claim?

 

[ssj3]

Are you a virologist to make this claim?

Here we go with the ad hominem attacks. I work in healthcare and have directly dealt with COVID patients so that gives me some credibility. Also @cloudsurf, antibodies are not the only thing that conveys immunity. You have to factor in T-cells, memory B cells and complement as well. The immune response is a robust one..people shouldn’t just focus on antibodies.

 

[sene5hos]

Here we go with the ad hominem attacks, No, it was a question.

Thank you for your answer, ssj3